Gorgon Posted February 15, 2011 Author Share Posted February 15, 2011 #2 is just 1# made with a bigger budget. #2 is the good one if memory serves. Too much slapstick in #3, and the end fight is boring. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BicycleOfDeath Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 For me, the scariest movie I have ever seen is the original Alien. It's scarier now than it was when I was little and it's entirely on a psychological level now. The entire movie is a metaphor for rape. The more I pay attention to that fact, the more terrifying it becomes. I think everyone involved with the original did an unprecedented job with the movie. I think it's the more efficient piece of art ever delivered by the entertainment industry in the fact that it did what it was supposed to. Stand Your Convictions and You Will Walk Alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 The entire movie is a metaphor for rape. If that's how you want to interpret the piece then fine, but having read a number of interviews with the director, writer and cast I certainly don't think that was their intention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BicycleOfDeath Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I'll have to read a number of interviews then. Perhaps my perspective will change. Stand Your Convictions and You Will Walk Alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted February 16, 2011 Share Posted February 16, 2011 I think Ridley Scott saw it as a horror movie in space, period (keepin' it simple, stoopid I guess is a good idea), Sigourney Weaver, IIRC, has occasionally mentioned that is has shades of fear about biology and the body. Hey, what do I know? I prefer Aliens anyhow because it has drop-ships, APCs, space marines, MG42s on steadicams and the line "I say we nuke the site from orbit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I think Ridley Scott saw it as a horror movie in space, period (keepin' it simple, stoopid I guess is a good idea), Sigourney Weaver, IIRC, has occasionally mentioned that is has shades of fear about biology and the body. Hey, what do I know? I prefer Aliens anyhow because it has drop-ships, APCs, space marines, MG42s on steadicams and the line "I say we nuke the site from orbit." Yep but he hired Giger, who created Alien as a metaphor for rape. Could be because the dark, sexual nature of his own work, but fact is that the facehuggers have their appendix down their victims throats and that's how they procreate. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 When I was a young child my dad let me watch Amityville Horror. When I saw those glowing eyes outside that top window, I ran into my room and didn't come out until the next morning. My mom chewed my dad out for letting me see that. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyDogMeat Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 (edited) The entire movie is a metaphor for rape. If that's how you want to interpret the piece then fine, but having read a number of interviews with the director, writer and cast I certainly don't think that was their intention. I really think AngryKidJoe is right. Ridley may have intended it to be pure horror, but it is H.R. Giger's creature. Simply do a google image search for H.R. Giger and you will come up with images that are pretty much alien porno with strange tubed alien women getting penetrated by horrific creatures. That is subconciously what made the alien so terrifying. Besides what Orogun mentioned with the facehuggers the alien at one point corners Lambert (the other female character besides Ripley) and starts moving it's tail up between her legs before the scene, thankfully, changes. Not to mention the alien's phallic secondary set of jaws etc. etc. OK, this pretty much seals it. From Wikipedia: The script for the 1979 film Alien was initially drafted by Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett. Dan O'Bannon drafted an opening in which the crew of a mining ship are sent to investigate a mysterious message on an alien planet. He eventually settled on the threat being an alien creature; however, he could not conceive of an interesting way for it to get onto the ship. Inspired after waking from a dream, Shusett said, "I have an idea: the monster screws one of them," planting its seed in his body, and then bursting out of his chest. Both realized the idea had never been done before, and it subsequently became the core of the film. "This is a movie about alien interspecies rape," O'Bannon said on the documentary Alien Evolution, "That's scary because it hits all of our buttons." O'Bannon felt that the symbolism of "homosexual oral rape" was an effective means of discomforting male viewers After O'Bannon handed him a copy of Giger's book Necronomicon, Scott immediately saw the potential for Giger's designs, and chose Necronom IV, a painting Giger completed in 1976, as the basis for the Alien's design, citing its beauty and strong sexual overtones. That the creature could just as easily have been male or female was also a strong factor in the decision to use it. "It could just as easily **** you before it killed you", said line producer Ivor Powell, "[which] made it all the more disconcerting." Fox was initially wary of allowing Giger onto the project, saying that his works would be too disturbing for audiences, but eventually relented. I'm actually surprised, as I thought the whole alien rape stuff was put in by Giger. Wikipedia Alien article. Edited February 17, 2011 by GreasyDogMeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 I stand humbly corrected. All I'll say is that the interviews I've seen with Ridley Scott make it pretty clear that he wanted a decent horror movie. In space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted February 17, 2011 Author Share Posted February 17, 2011 I didn't need to know that. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Yes, my entire view of the Alien franchise is now changed. Gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BicycleOfDeath Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 Like I said, Alien is kcufing terrifying. Stand Your Convictions and You Will Walk Alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Although I agree that Alien was supposed to emphasise face rape, I think that only a decadent fethnut would consider being raped more primally disconcerting than being eaten alive. Which surely is a far more primal urge so far as fear is concerned. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Poltergeist as a 'scary' movie. Like i said, I don't get scared but I've heard plenty of people talk aboutt hat in the past, and there were definitely some 'scary' moments in the film. The clown fight, and 'They're Here', and 'Don't go towards the light! Not to mention the always kewl It. "WE ALL FLOAT DOWN HERE!" DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyDogMeat Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I'm surprised nobody has mentioned Poltergeist as a 'scary' movie. Like i said, I don't get scared but I've heard plenty of people talk aboutt hat in the past, and there were definitely some 'scary' moments in the film. The clown fight, and 'They're Here', and 'Don't go towards the light! Not to mention the always kewl It. "WE ALL FLOAT DOWN HERE!" Does a clown pull a kid under a bed in that movie? If so I saw parts of it as a kid and it scared the hell out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 "Does a clown pull a kid under a bed in that movie?" Yup. That's the clown fight I was referring to. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyDogMeat Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 "Does a clown pull a kid under a bed in that movie?" Yup. That's the clown fight I was referring to. Yeah, that movie had me fearful of clowns lurking under my bed for a long time after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I got scared by The Exorcist. It wasn't the head spinning, but the mother being terrified for her daughter that freaked me out. You know, fearing a brain cancer or something which is what we all might fear, and then it goes SHAZAAAM! actually, it's Satan... "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyDogMeat Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 I got scared by The Exorcist. It wasn't the head spinning, but the mother being terrified for her daughter that freaked me out. You know, fearing a brain cancer or something which is what we all might fear, and then it goes SHAZAAAM! actually, it's Satan... You just put a whole new spin on the movie. 'Oh God! I hope my daughter doesn't have brain cancer! I hope it is just poesession by SATAN. Then atleast we can cure it with a priest.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Well, cancer is a Big Bad for our times. I'm fairly certain a lot of people would choose demonic possession over cancer any day. Although in large part that's because we have little to no awareness of what real evil entails. And hene little notion of what being possessed by an anthropomorphised version of it would be like. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BicycleOfDeath Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Titanic was terrifying. I mean, think about it; you give a woman all of that love and affection and she's heartless enough to not scooter over on a floating door and lets you drown in the frigid waters. It's a good thing they're not like that in real life... Stand Your Convictions and You Will Walk Alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nepenthe Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 It's a good thing they're not like that in real life... You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 The only terrifying thing about Titanic was how much money it made. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 (edited) Only terrifying about Titanic how sorely underrated such an awesome movie is. Edited February 21, 2011 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Only terrifying about Titanic how sorely underrated such an awesome movie is. Which proves without doubt that Yoda was a troll. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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