Amazing show of bipartisanship by 76 senators...

[lord of flies]

Can you stop sounding like a broken record? "the bourgeoisie this, the bourgeoisie that". Seriously, it's not only tedious as **** to read, it's also completely vacuous. Do you have a bot to write your posts for you?

Blah blah do you have an argument or are you just going to attack my use of the word "bourgeoisie"? Especially since I haven't used it?

[obyknven]

We hate Gorbachev

All that we have now - was built in the Soviet Union. He ruined it. This was not the peace process, in many places there were bloodshed and war broke out.

 

Now Russia is similar to Germany 1928. The most interesting is yet to come.>:3 Now we just use the remnants of its former power to sustain our lives. But Russia will soon be reborn, full of revanchism, hatred and nationalism. And the blame for this man who received the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

Stay clear of Finland the next time, will you?

 

 

//EDIT: Add the Baltic states to that as well.

Finland and the Baltics - the former province of the Russian Empire. Do not worry, we'll take you, we'll do it with maximum tenderness.

[Rostere]

Finland and the Baltics - the former province of the Russian Empire. Do not worry, we'll take you, we'll do it with maximum tenderness.

 

And get your ass handed to you like the last time you tried to invade Finland?

[Walsingham]

I'd just like to remind LoF that the offer still stands for us to send him to join the glorious revolutionary wars anywhere in the world he likes. After all, it can only make your faith stronger. Actually MEETING the proletariat.

[Meshugger]

We hate Gorbachev

All that we have now - was built in the Soviet Union. He ruined it. This was not the peace process, in many places there were bloodshed and war broke out.

 

Now Russia is similar to Germany 1928. The most interesting is yet to come.>:3 Now we just use the remnants of its former power to sustain our lives. But Russia will soon be reborn, full of revanchism, hatred and nationalism. And the blame for this man who received the Nobel Peace Prize.

 

Stay clear of Finland the next time, will you?

 

 

//EDIT: Add the Baltic states to that as well.

Finland and the Baltics - the former province of the Russian Empire. Do not worry, we'll take you, we'll do it with maximum tenderness.

 

Oh my, you are for real, aren't you

[obyknven]

Finland and the Baltics - the former province of the Russian Empire. Do not worry, we'll take you, we'll do it with maximum tenderness.

 

And get your ass handed to you like the last time you tried to invade Finland?

You mean war with the Finnish fascists?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NByyf5olhEA

In general, we then won the war. Karelia is ours now.

[Walsingham]

Gentlemen, I believe we have somehow connected the forums to the 1930s. This is an awesome day for science.

[Gorgon]

Findland was fashist ?. You learn something new every day.

 

How about England and the US, just so I can get myself situated.

[Gorgon]

No really, I did not know Finland was formally allied with Nazi Germany. Of course they did play both sides of the fence and refused to participate in the invasion of Russia.

[213374U]

Can you stop sounding like a broken record? "the bourgeoisie this, the bourgeoisie that". Seriously, it's not only tedious as **** to read, it's also completely vacuous. Do you have a bot to write your posts for you?

Blah blah do you have an argument or are you just going to attack my use of the word "bourgeoisie"? Especially since I haven't used it?

Blah blah the bourgeoisie this the anti-communists that. Do you have an argument or are you just going to keep repeating the same boring rhetoric forever?

[Oerwinde]

Also, your map only shows that at one time that Isreal ws the oppressed and they raised up and fought their oppressors.

 

Considering the jews were a minority and built their numbers through illegal immigration... They were less than a third of the population of the land when they were given control of it. And no arguments about it being their homeland as it hadn't been their country for about 3000 years. The Celts are from the Iberian peninsula and you don't see people arguing that Spain should be given to the Irish.

 

I don't think either side is going about it the right way, but the Palestinians had their home stolen from them and given to a minority, most of which were foreign immigrants. If I'm going to sympathise with one side, it wouldn't be the Israelis.

[obyknven]

No really, I did not know Finland was formally allied with Nazi Germany. Of course they did play both sides of the fence and refused to participate in the invasion of Russia.

O'RLY?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Finland

[Meshugger]

No really, I did not know Finland was formally allied with Nazi Germany. Of course they did play both sides of the fence and refused to participate in the invasion of Russia.

O'RLY?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_Finland

 

Oh my, you can't even distinguish between what was humerous propaganda and was goverment policy? For the record, while i will not deny that there were, and are extremist parties in Finland, there has never been a a fascist or communist party in power in Finland.

 

Gorgon: There was no choice really, we got no direct support from England back in 1939, and we saw what happened to the baltic states. In order not to be invaded by the Soviets, we had to ally ourselves with the Germans. But of course obyknven does not understand what "realpolitik" is anyway, so silly propaganda will have to do. He seems to forget that there was a Winter War before that.

Edited April 17, 2010 by Meshugger

[Oblarg]

Can you stop sounding like a broken record? "the bourgeoisie this, the bourgeoisie that". Seriously, it's not only tedious as **** to read, it's also completely vacuous. Do you have a bot to write your posts for you?

Blah blah do you have an argument or are you just going to attack my use of the word "bourgeoisie"? Especially since I haven't used it?

Blah blah the bourgeoisie this the anti-communists that. Do you have an argument or are you just going to keep repeating the same boring rhetoric forever?

 

The fact that his rhetoric doesn't change doesn't necessarily make it invalid.

[Walsingham]

The Celts are from the Iberian peninsula and you don't see people arguing that Spain should be given to the Irish.

 

Yet. As from today I'm campaigning. Does anyone know the Gaelic for 'Next year in Madrid'?

[I want teh kotor 3]

The Celts are from the Iberian peninsula and you don't see people arguing that Spain should be given to the Irish.

 

Yet. As from today I'm campaigning. Does anyone know the Gaelic for 'Next year in Madrid'?

 

:lol:

[obyknven]

Oh my, you can't even distinguish between what was humerous propaganda and was goverment policy? For the record, while i will not deny that there were, and are extremist parties in Finland, there has never been a a fascist or communist party in power in Finland.

 

Gorgon: There was no choice really, we got no direct support from England back in 1939, and we saw what happened to the baltic states. In order not to be invaded by the Soviets, we had to ally ourselves with the Germans. But of course obyknven does not understand what "realpolitik" is anyway, so silly propaganda will have to do. He seems to forget that there was a Winter War before that.

We not forget this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heimosodat

and this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Waffen_SS_volunteers

[Gorgon]

Well to be fair there were volunteers for the international SS divisions from all over. Norway, Denmark, probably more I don't know about. A lot of people were more worried about being overrun by the Soviets than they were about the Nazis.

[obyknven]

Well to be fair there were volunteers for the international SS divisions from all over. Norway, Denmark, probably more I don't know about. A lot of people were more worried about being overrun by the Soviets than they were about the Nazis.

Yeah! They just killed lots of Jews.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Himmler/Meldung291242b.html

[Volourn]

"Considering the jews were a minority and built their numbers through illegal immigration..."

 

'Illegal immigration'. LOLZ Did Palestine ever have a modern style immigration law? And, oh btw, tell that to the US anda few decades when illegal immigrants will magically become 'legal' and have some control (if they don't already).

 

" They were less than a third of the population of the land when they were given control of it. And no arguments about it being their homeland as it hadn't been their country for about 3000 years."

 

I love thisa rgument. With thatab rgument, if Isreal can keep control of the land for, say, 1000 years, you are then suggesting that the palestinians will no longer have a legit claim and they then should shut up. What a weak argument.

 

Hey, judge, yeah, I stole that guy's car but it was 10 years ago. He should just get over it. HAHA! That's the same lame argument the child molestor supporters use as well. L0LZ

 

Soemthing doesn't become 'right' simply due to the passage of time. If taht were the case, both the Kanadian and Amerikan governemtns should destroy treaties with the Native populations because it was so a few centuries ago. LMAO

[213374U]

Can you stop sounding like a broken record? "the bourgeoisie this, the bourgeoisie that". Seriously, it's not only tedious as **** to read, it's also completely vacuous. Do you have a bot to write your posts for you?

Blah blah do you have an argument or are you just going to attack my use of the word "bourgeoisie"? Especially since I haven't used it?

Blah blah the bourgeoisie this the anti-communists that. Do you have an argument or are you just going to keep repeating the same boring rhetoric forever?

The fact that his rhetoric doesn't change doesn't necessarily make it invalid.

The fact that it is completely vacuous (as I said) and mostly simply unreferenced **** and personal opinion, however, does.

 

 

Yet. As from today I'm campaigning. Does anyone know the Gaelic for 'Next year in Madrid'?

Yes please. I wholeheartedly endorse full annexation of Spain by the UK, or dominion status at the very least. Keep your cuisine, though.

[Oblarg]

Can you stop sounding like a broken record? "the bourgeoisie this, the bourgeoisie that". Seriously, it's not only tedious as **** to read, it's also completely vacuous. Do you have a bot to write your posts for you?

Blah blah do you have an argument or are you just going to attack my use of the word "bourgeoisie"? Especially since I haven't used it?

Blah blah the bourgeoisie this the anti-communists that. Do you have an argument or are you just going to keep repeating the same boring rhetoric forever?

The fact that his rhetoric doesn't change doesn't necessarily make it invalid.

The fact that it is completely vacuous (as I said) and mostly simply unreferenced **** and personal opinion, however, does.

 

 

Yet. As from today I'm campaigning. Does anyone know the Gaelic for 'Next year in Madrid'?

Yes please. I wholeheartedly endorse full annexation of Spain by the UK, or dominion status at the very least. Keep your cuisine, though.

 

If you could provide something to back up your views other than "you're wrong because I say so," it'd be more convincing. Not that LoF argues flawlessly, either, but you're really not making a strong point.

[213374U]

If you could provide something to back up your views other than "you're wrong because I say so," it'd be more convincing. Not that LoF argues flawlessly, either, but you're really not making a strong point.

See, I have already done that in countless other threads -- he simply repeats himself time and time again, hoping the opposition will go away. Analysing and defeating his rhetoric in detail is a pretty sterile effort, even when there is something to analyse and it's not just tripe along the lines of "democracy is only good when you can only vote for the CPSU". Use the search function, if you don't believe me.

[Gorgon]

Well to be fair there were volunteers for the international SS divisions from all over. Norway, Denmark, probably more I don't know about. A lot of people were more worried about being overrun by the Soviets than they were about the Nazis.

Yeah! They just killed lots of Jews.

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Himmler/Meldung291242b.html

You don't really need a link to support the claim that the SS killed jews you know.

[lord of flies]

If you could provide something to back up your views other than "you're wrong because I say so," it'd be more convincing. Not that LoF argues flawlessly, either, but you're really not making a strong point.

See, I have already done that in countless other threads -- he simply repeats himself time and time again, hoping the opposition will go away. Analysing and defeating his rhetoric in detail is a pretty sterile effort, even when there is something to analyse and it's not just tripe along the lines of "democracy is only good when you can only vote for the CPSU". Use the search function, if you don't believe me.

You must enjoy fictitious arguments, because I've never argued that "democracy is only good when you can only vote for the CPSU".