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An update on nuclear fusion


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They can already produce fusion using a "Tokamak" type reactor at J.E.T, but thus far they've only run it for very short stints at a time. But it does definently looks like there is a good chance we'll live to experience Fusion power being used outside of a laboraty for experimental purpouses.

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...having visions of cars doing the "miniature mushroom cloud" thing when crashing and their fusion cells ruptures... :p

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Looks like they're closing in on a solution on how to trigger the reaction without using more energy than is produced. Currently they only really have the lasers they mentioned or then triggering a fission reaction to start a fusion reaction. And even then the fusion reaction eats it's fuel pretty fast.

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...having visions of cars doing the "miniature mushroom cloud" thing when crashing and their fusion cells ruptures... :huh:

 

I doubt you'll ever see nuclear fusion in cars. Likely the electricity produced by fusion will be stored in hydrogen fuel cells which are in turn used by cars.

 

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I think it's tremendous. Makes you proud to be human. Can a giraffe make a ****ing star? I think not.

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We'll run out of oil before any of this can get from the drawing board.

 

So what? Oh no, we'll have to use the immense reserves of Thorium, Plutonium, solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, biofuel algae, natural gas, or coal. However will we survive?!

 

We wont.

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We'll run out of oil before any of this can get from the drawing board.

 

So what? Oh no, we'll have to use the immense reserves of Thorium, Plutonium, solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, biofuel algae, natural gas, or coal. However will we survive?!

 

We wont.

 

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Boo's a ****ing ray of sunshine, isn't he?

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We'll run out of oil before any of this can get from the drawing board.

 

So what? Oh no, we'll have to use the immense reserves of Thorium, Plutonium, solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, biofuel algae, natural gas, or coal. However will we survive?!

You do realize that almost all plastic we use today is oil based, right? Try to imagine a world without plastic for a second. When we run out of oil, there's more than transportation that needs to be altered.

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We'll run out of oil before any of this can get from the drawing board.

 

So what? Oh no, we'll have to use the immense reserves of Thorium, Plutonium, solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, biofuel algae, natural gas, or coal. However will we survive?!

You do realize that almost all plastic we use today is oil based, right? Try to imagine a world without plastic for a second. When we run out of oil, there's more than transportation that needs to be altered.

 

Don't even bother bringing it up. Every chemistry class I've done since 2004 has in some way covered plastics and polymers. :(

 

For a start, only something like 2% of all oil is used to manufacture plastics. Moreover, even with oil being uneconomical to use as a fuel source (which is what we're REALLY talking about here), I've read that that will barely interefere with plastic manufacture prices, and that even if it should, we have lower-grade hydrocarbons we cen resort to.

 

And that's ignoring biological polymers which plastics are starting to be made from (I know my shampoo and some food containers are, and you can't tell the difference). The most common one is probably polylactic acid (PLA), trailing that is I guess polyhydroxybutyrate (PHB). Not to mention that it's trivial to convert ethanol into the the polyethylene (plastic bags) monomer, ethylene.

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I'm hoping we'll have to go back to using wood. I loved all those old wood things. Grow trees, trap carbon, turn it into stuff. Genius.

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For a start, only something like 2% of all oil is used to manufacture plastics. Moreover, even with oil being uneconomical to use as a fuel source (which is what we're REALLY talking about here), I've read that that will barely interefere with plastic manufacture prices, and that even if it should, we have lower-grade hydrocarbons we cen resort to.

 

And that's ignoring biological polymers which plastics are starting to be made from (I know my shampoo and some food containers are, and you can't tell the difference). The most common one is probably polylactic acid (PLA), trailing that is I guess polyhydroxybutyrate (PHB). Not to mention that it's trivial to convert ethanol into the the polyethylene (plastic bags) monomer, ethylene.

The problem isn't that we don't have anything to replace it with, it's that it's not economically feasible to do it. If it was, we'd done it already. And 2% sounds little as a percentage.. but apply that to the world's total oil consumption and you'll find that it's NOT little at all. It's a couple of billion tons of plastic! PER YEAR. All that will have to be replaced by something else. The problem is not trivial.

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