Humodour Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 http://www.physorg.com/news183983627.html Interesting article on the current status and some recent advances in nuclear fusion. Looks like we'll see it in our lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted January 30, 2010 Share Posted January 30, 2010 They can already produce fusion using a "Tokamak" type reactor at J.E.T, but thus far they've only run it for very short stints at a time. But it does definently looks like there is a good chance we'll live to experience Fusion power being used outside of a laboraty for experimental purpouses. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 ...having visions of cars doing the "miniature mushroom cloud" thing when crashing and their fusion cells ruptures... “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 A risk i'll take, having just looked at my latest power bill. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Looks like they're closing in on a solution on how to trigger the reaction without using more energy than is produced. Currently they only really have the lasers they mentioned or then triggering a fission reaction to start a fusion reaction. And even then the fusion reaction eats it's fuel pretty fast. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humodour Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 ...having visions of cars doing the "miniature mushroom cloud" thing when crashing and their fusion cells ruptures... I doubt you'll ever see nuclear fusion in cars. Likely the electricity produced by fusion will be stored in hydrogen fuel cells which are in turn used by cars. Not that you were serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 What about the Ford Nucleon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGmasterBoo Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 We'll run out of oil before any of this can get from the drawing board. Imperium Thought for the Day: Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Don't worry, the US has a huge reserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGmasterBoo Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 How reassuring Imperium Thought for the Day: Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 I think it's tremendous. Makes you proud to be human. Can a giraffe make a ****ing star? I think not. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humodour Posted January 31, 2010 Author Share Posted January 31, 2010 We'll run out of oil before any of this can get from the drawing board. So what? Oh no, we'll have to use the immense reserves of Thorium, Plutonium, solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, biofuel algae, natural gas, or coal. However will we survive?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purkake Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Don't forget oil shale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted January 31, 2010 Share Posted January 31, 2010 Also, helium 3 if we ever pull ourselves down from the moon Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGmasterBoo Posted February 1, 2010 Share Posted February 1, 2010 We'll run out of oil before any of this can get from the drawing board. So what? Oh no, we'll have to use the immense reserves of Thorium, Plutonium, solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, biofuel algae, natural gas, or coal. However will we survive?! We wont. Imperium Thought for the Day: Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humodour Posted February 1, 2010 Author Share Posted February 1, 2010 We'll run out of oil before any of this can get from the drawing board. So what? Oh no, we'll have to use the immense reserves of Thorium, Plutonium, solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, biofuel algae, natural gas, or coal. However will we survive?! We wont. Of course dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Boo's a ****ing ray of sunshine, isn't he? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Kalthorne Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Makes me proud. *sniff* "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 We'll run out of oil before any of this can get from the drawing board. So what? Oh no, we'll have to use the immense reserves of Thorium, Plutonium, solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, biofuel algae, natural gas, or coal. However will we survive?! You do realize that almost all plastic we use today is oil based, right? Try to imagine a world without plastic for a second. When we run out of oil, there's more than transportation that needs to be altered. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightshape Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Don't forget oil shale I've seen the heaps in Estonia... ugly things. I came up with Crate 3.0 technology. Crate 4.0 - we shall just have to wait and see.Down and out on the Solomani RimNow the Spinward Marches don't look so GRIM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Who needs plastics when we have glass: http://www.physorg.com/news184310039.html "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPGmasterBoo Posted February 3, 2010 Share Posted February 3, 2010 Boo's a ****ing ray of sunshine, isn't he? I thought that was an optimistic approach Imperium Thought for the Day: Even a man who has nothing can still offer his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humodour Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 We'll run out of oil before any of this can get from the drawing board. So what? Oh no, we'll have to use the immense reserves of Thorium, Plutonium, solar, wind, geothermal, hydro, biofuel algae, natural gas, or coal. However will we survive?! You do realize that almost all plastic we use today is oil based, right? Try to imagine a world without plastic for a second. When we run out of oil, there's more than transportation that needs to be altered. Don't even bother bringing it up. Every chemistry class I've done since 2004 has in some way covered plastics and polymers. For a start, only something like 2% of all oil is used to manufacture plastics. Moreover, even with oil being uneconomical to use as a fuel source (which is what we're REALLY talking about here), I've read that that will barely interefere with plastic manufacture prices, and that even if it should, we have lower-grade hydrocarbons we cen resort to. And that's ignoring biological polymers which plastics are starting to be made from (I know my shampoo and some food containers are, and you can't tell the difference). The most common one is probably polylactic acid (PLA), trailing that is I guess polyhydroxybutyrate (PHB). Not to mention that it's trivial to convert ethanol into the the polyethylene (plastic bags) monomer, ethylene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walsingham Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I'm hoping we'll have to go back to using wood. I loved all those old wood things. Grow trees, trap carbon, turn it into stuff. Genius. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 For a start, only something like 2% of all oil is used to manufacture plastics. Moreover, even with oil being uneconomical to use as a fuel source (which is what we're REALLY talking about here), I've read that that will barely interefere with plastic manufacture prices, and that even if it should, we have lower-grade hydrocarbons we cen resort to. And that's ignoring biological polymers which plastics are starting to be made from (I know my shampoo and some food containers are, and you can't tell the difference). The most common one is probably polylactic acid (PLA), trailing that is I guess polyhydroxybutyrate (PHB). Not to mention that it's trivial to convert ethanol into the the polyethylene (plastic bags) monomer, ethylene. The problem isn't that we don't have anything to replace it with, it's that it's not economically feasible to do it. If it was, we'd done it already. And 2% sounds little as a percentage.. but apply that to the world's total oil consumption and you'll find that it's NOT little at all. It's a couple of billion tons of plastic! PER YEAR. All that will have to be replaced by something else. The problem is not trivial. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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