BREAKING NEWS: Michael Jackson is dead!

[Killian Kalthorne]

To be honest it's hard for me to care, considering odds are we was a child molester. Interesting how everyone is overlooking that fact. I simply see it as karma getting its due on him. No one settles out of court on those kind of charges unless there is something to them. See catholic church for a prime example. Yes he had a great pop rock influence in the 80s and until the mid 90s but he been irrelevant music wise for the past decade. I find it odd people are tripping over themselves on his death as if he still had any musical clout in recent memory.

Guilty until proven innocent, then still guilty right? He was tried in a criminal court of law and found Not Guilty on all charges. You can say "odds are" that he was a child molester, but you're wrong.

Just because you are found innocent doesn't mean you aren't guilty.

 

For example, O.J. Simpson.

[Meshugger]

To be honest it's hard for me to care, considering odds are we was a child molester. Interesting how everyone is overlooking that fact. I simply see it as karma getting its due on him. No one settles out of court on those kind of charges unless there is something to them. See catholic church for a prime example. Yes he had a great pop rock influence in the 80s and until the mid 90s but he been irrelevant music wise for the past decade. I find it odd people are tripping over themselves on his death as if he still had any musical clout in recent memory.

Guilty until proven innocent, then still guilty right? He was tried in a criminal court of law and found Not Guilty on all charges. You can say "odds are" that he was a child molester, but you're wrong.

Just because you are found innocent doesn't mean you aren't guilty.

 

For example, O.J. Simpson.

 

True, bit is it comparable?

[Walsingham]

I rather like the Scottish system of 'not proven'. It means neither side have been satisfactory. It means the case can be retried with new evidence.

[Gfted1]

Entertainment Tonight, June 30, 2009

ET has the latest...

 

According to a report, the biological father of Michael Jackson's two oldest children has been revealed.

 

Sources tell Us magazine that Dr. Arnie Klein allegedly is the father of Jackson's son Prince Michael and daughter Paris, whose mother is Debbie Rowe.

 

Klein is a Beverly Hills dermatologist and Rowe was a nurse at his practice in the 1990's.

[Hiro Protagonist]

Apparently Michael Jackson has Faked his own death according to some websites.

[Volourn]

'Crazed fans'. Even the article write can't be unbiased here claling them psychos.

[Hiro Protagonist]

Well the news website is owned by Fox (News Limited)...

Edited July 1, 2009 by Hiro Protagonist

[GreasyDogMeat]

Apparently Michael Jackson has Faked his own death according to some websites.

 

Elvis did it, so why not Jackson?

[Blarghagh]

I love the amount of advertising on that site they link. :D

[Walsingham]

Well the news website is owned by Fox (News Limited)...

 

And never was news SO limited.

[Nihilus5078]

Mikey Jackson

[Gfted1]

An interesting article about the hospital MJ was brought to. Apparently, one of the doctors there has pioneered a method of CPR that brings people back from long after conventional CPR fails:

 

Jackson's hospital is known for 'raising the dead'

 

Jul 1, 1:28 PM (ET)

 

By MARILYNN MARCHIONE

 

When Michael Jackson went into cardiac arrest, rescuers took him to a place known for bringing the dead back to life. A world-renowned surgeon at the UCLA Medical Center has pioneered a way to revive people that most doctors would have long written off, including a woman whose heart had stopped for 2 1/2 hours.

 

Tested on a few dozen cardiac arrest patients, 80 percent survived. Usually, more than 80 percent perish.

 

"They took people who were basically dead, not all that different than Michael Jackson, and saved most of them," said Dr. Lance Becker, an emergency medicine specialist at the University of Pennsylvania and an American Heart Association spokesman.

 

Could Jackson, too, have been saved?

 

It's impossible to know. Doctors at the hospital worked on him for an hour. The UCLA expert, cardiothoracic surgeon Dr. Gerald Buckberg, said he was not personally involved in Jackson's treatment, and that too little is known about what preceded it.

 

"We have no idea when he died versus when he was found," Buckberg said in a telephone interview.

 

However, the results in other patients show that "the window is wide open to new thinking" about how long people can be successfully resuscitated after their hearts quit beating, Buckberg said. "We can salvage them way beyond the current time frames that are used. We've changed the concept of when the heart is dead permanently."

 

They call it "the Lazarus syndrome" for the man the Bible says Jesus raised from the dead.

 

Let's be clear: No one is saying that people long dead without medical attention can be revived. The lucky ones in Buckberg's study received quick help, and the reason they suffered cardiac arrest was known and could be fixed: blocked arteries causing a heart attack, in most cases.

 

Buckberg's method requires:

 

_Prompt CPR - rhythmic chest compressions - to maintain blood pressure until the patient gets to a hospital.

 

_Use of a heart-lung machine to keep blood and oxygen moving through the body while doctors remedy what caused the heart to quiver or stop in the first place, such as a drug overdose or a clogged artery.

 

_Special procedures and medicines to gradually restore blood and oxygen flow, so a sudden gush does not cause fresh damage.

 

Without all three elements, patients might suffer brain damage if they survive at all.

 

"You can save the heart and lose the brain," Buckberg explained.

 

UCLA and hospitals in Birmingham, Ala.; Ann Arbor, Mich.; and in Germany tested Buckberg's method on 34 patients who had been in cardiac arrest for an average of 72 minutes. All had failed resuscitation methods with standard CPR and defibrillation to try to shock their hearts back to beating.

 

Only seven died. Only two survivors were left with permanent neurological damage. Results were published in 2006 in the journal Resuscitation.

 

Dr. Constantine Athanasuleas (pronounced uh-than-uh-SOO'-lee-us), a surgeon at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, treated one man in the study who had been in cardiac arrest for about an hour and a half. The man's wife, a nurse, did CPR until a helicopter brought him to the hospital.

 

"He was flatlined," with a heart "as still as your dining room table," Athanasuleas said.

 

Doctors put him on a heart-lung machine, whisked him to the catheterization lab to see if he had artery blockages, then did bypass surgery to detour around them.

 

"The guy went home and was neurologically perfect" at least two years later, the doctor said.

 

Buckberg treated a woman who had been in cardiac arrest for 2 1/2 hours.

 

He would not send her to the operating room until her CPR and blood pressure could be maintained so further treatment could be attempted, he said.

 

Sadly, the woman survived all this but died several weeks later from an infection.

 

Buckberg has taken his work further in experiments with pigs in cardiac arrest. He deliberately deprived their brains of blood flow for half an hour, then used his resuscitation techniques to bring them back, with normal or near-normal function. Results presented at a heart association conference last fall stunned many, including Dr. Myron Weisfeldt, a cardiologist and chairman of medicine at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine.

 

"He's doing extraordinary things. You almost don't believe the results that he got," Weisfeldt said of Buckberg. "Most of us carry around in our head that if somebody's brain is deprived of blood flow for 10 to 15 minutes that we're just not going to get them back to any useful function. His data suggest it's possible."

 

Doctors in Japan, Taiwan and elsewhere in Asia have tried approaches similar to Buckberg's with excellent results, said Becker, who is about to try it in Philadelphia.

 

"It takes training. It takes rethinking" to get doctors to adopt something this new, and funding for bigger studies to prove it works, Buckberg said.

[Hurlshort]

Psh, Billy Crystal had that down ages ago!

 

[TheHarlequin]

I'm fairly convinced he was guilty too, but that is a rather harsh statement.. or are you just jumping to conclusions to empower an arguement?

 

'harsh' or being honest? Why tip toe around the topic? He was a vile man who molested children and IMO got what he deserved. If this guy was some average guy who lived down the street from you all the facts the same except we wasn't a singer/celebrity there would be a lynch mob after him and most everyone would be dancing on his grave. But he had some hits in the 80s and only because of that some of you are blinded by that. Its sick and some of you should be disgusted with yourself for celebrating the life of a CHILD MOLESTER.

 

Unreal how celebrities blind some people. I liked some of his songs in the 80s as well does not make him a good person.

 

...or the guy simply was never mentally fit to become old. Maybe he stayed at the mental age of 8 for the rest of his life. None of his children is biologically his.

 

I bet that he wasn't even interested in any form of sexuality to begin, because that was icky grown-up stuff.

 

I also bet that he died as a virgin.

 

I wouldn't dispute this and say its just as possible. Have you seen the items in his house? A pic of him as jesus with children following him, tons of collectible kid toys on display, a wall sized print if him dressed as royalty with words implying he is some kind of savior and immortal. It's pretty messed up and creepy. Either case he has at LEAST a unhealthy attraction to young boys or was guilty of molesting them. Either case IMO he got what he deserved like all people like that. Love karma.

[TheHarlequin]

I'm fairly convinced he was guilty too, but that is a rather harsh statement.. or are you just jumping to conclusions to empower an arguement?

 

'harsh' or being honest? Why tip toe around the topic? He was a vile man who molested children and IMO got what he deserved. If this guy was some average guy who lived down the street from you all the facts the same except we wasn't a singer/celebrity there would be a lynch mob after him and most everyone would be dancing on his grave. But he had some hits in the 80s and only because of that some of you are blinded by that. Its sick and some of you should be disgusted with yourself for celebrating the life of a CHILD MOLESTER.

 

Unreal how celebrities blind some people. I liked some of his songs in the 80s as well does not make him a good person.

 

Please forgive me for feeling some sadness for the passing of man whose music was a big part of my childhood. I am surely a disgusting person.

 

I find it entertaining you have no issue looking the other way of someone who clearly had issues with his attraction to young boys because you liked his music. Again, minus his music yet keep all other facts the same I'd put any amount of money down you'd along with everyone else feigning a tear would be dancing on his grave and saying good riddance. Simple minds blinded by the aura of celebrity status I suppose is the explanation.

[TheHarlequin]

Judge not and you shall not be judged... R.I.P., Michael.

 

Thankfully I don't subscribe to your christian dribble. I have better things to do then read a fictional book that is mistranslated, contradicts itself and read out of context.

[Killian Kalthorne]

Judge not and you shall not be judged... R.I.P., Michael.

 

Thankfully I don't subscribe to your christian dribble. I have better things to do then read a fictional book that is mistranslated, contradicts itself and read out of context.

 

Wow. You sound like me.

[Meshugger]

I'm fairly convinced he was guilty too, but that is a rather harsh statement.. or are you just jumping to conclusions to empower an arguement?

 

'harsh' or being honest? Why tip toe around the topic? He was a vile man who molested children and IMO got what he deserved. If this guy was some average guy who lived down the street from you all the facts the same except we wasn't a singer/celebrity there would be a lynch mob after him and most everyone would be dancing on his grave. But he had some hits in the 80s and only because of that some of you are blinded by that. Its sick and some of you should be disgusted with yourself for celebrating the life of a CHILD MOLESTER.

 

Unreal how celebrities blind some people. I liked some of his songs in the 80s as well does not make him a good person.

 

...or the guy simply was never mentally fit to become old. Maybe he stayed at the mental age of 8 for the rest of his life. None of his children is biologically his.

 

I bet that he wasn't even interested in any form of sexuality to begin, because that was icky grown-up stuff.

 

I also bet that he died as a virgin.

 

I wouldn't dispute this and say its just as possible. Have you seen the items in his house? A pic of him as jesus with children following him, tons of collectible kid toys on display, a wall sized print if him dressed as royalty with words implying he is some kind of savior and immortal. It's pretty messed up and creepy. Either case he has at LEAST a unhealthy attraction to young boys or was guilty of molesting them. Either case IMO he got what he deserved like all people like that. Love karma.

 

Many celebrities develop a form of jesus-complex during their careers. Undoubtly creepy, but it isn't the same as being a sexual predator. I can not tell whether his fascination for kids was of sexual nature or not either.

 

Anyhoo, having karma involved would atleast mean to me that he died from being molested/raped himself. Or is that irony? No matter.

[Walsingham]

Now hang on. From what I understand, people don't have a great deal of leeway in being attracted to kids. If they did it could be cured and it can't, so far as I know. Assuming this then surely someone who felt that way but never acted on it would be praiseworthy. Like a man with no arms scratching his arse. If I thought he hadn't done anything then I'd have MORE respect for MJ, not less.

[Gorgon]

I mostly believe he is guilty because he chose not to fight the allegations, but I have a small lingering doubt that the parents were indeed gold diggers and manipulated questionable behavior, I mean who hangs out with kids whose parents one barely knows, into a crime.

 

It would be pretty terrible if he had his life and what remained of his sanity ruined in this way.

[Walsingham]

I think we can all agree he was completely mental.

[Rosbjerg]

I think our media is going in some kind of selfdestructive spin.. they are doing meta-news on MJ death now, talking about how annoyed people are hearing about it.. Like people want to hear news about news they are no longer interested in

[Oner]

The kid (Jordan Chandler) who accused Jacko of pedophilia admitted he lied, 'cause his father forced him to. Yippie-ka-yay kidf-

I'll let you google that for yourselves.

 

Call me horrible, but I can't stop laughing when I imagine the hardcore haters' faces when they hear this. Am curious though how many of them will keep on saying he really was pedo.

For the record, I didn't care either way, since neither of them provided proof.

[Deadly_Nightshade]

The kid (Jordan Chandler) who accused Jacko of pedophilia admitted he lied, 'cause his father forced him to. Yippie-ka-yay kidf-

I'll let you google that for yourselves.

 

There were other cases as well - that was not the first time he had been accused of that crime.

[Oner]

There were other cases as well - that was not the first time he had been accused of that crime.

The whole "accuse stars of having sex with me" thing is still ridiculous, and I can't understand how anyone can still take them seriously.