Morgoth Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 There's also this horrible Chris Priestley who shuts down any thread by the slightest notion of Bio criticism. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 (edited) And Karpyshyn. And Preston Watamaniuk, who wins the awesome name competition. Edited June 29, 2009 by Darth InSidious This particularly rapid, unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 "There's also this horrible Chris Priestley who shuts down any thread by the slightest notion of Bio criticism." False. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 "There's also this horrible Chris Priestley who shuts down any thread by the slightest notion of Bio criticism." False. No, true. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 David Gaider has the patience of a saint. If I had to field all the stupid questions he graciously answers I would have laid about with a meat cleaver long ago. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaesun Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 David Gaider has the patience of a saint. If I had to field all the stupid questions he graciously answers I would have laid about with a meat cleaver long ago. Agreed. Some of my Youtube Classic Roland MT-32 Video Game Music videos | My Music | My Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Caliban Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 You can criticize the games as much as you want, but you can't criticize the company. To be fair, if you started a thread about how Obsidian sucks on the BioWare boards, that would be closed as well. "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Caliban Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 And Karpyshyn. And Preston Watamaniuk, who wins the awesome name competition. You mean Jay Watamaniuk? Serious Watamaniuk is serious. "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted June 29, 2009 Author Share Posted June 29, 2009 "There's also this horrible Chris Priestley who shuts down any thread by the slightest notion of Bio criticism." False. BTW, Magical Volo, you know one of our old guild members works at Bioware, right? (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Kalthorne Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 If they make games I want to play then I will buy them. If they don't make games I want to play then I won't. Beyond that, why does it matter to the end consumer? "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Embrace the simplicity of Hades-logic. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Kalthorne Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Why fret over the stuff you don't have any control over, eh? "Your Job is not to die for your country, but set a man on fire, and take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth InSidious Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 And Karpyshyn. And Preston Watamaniuk, who wins the awesome name competition. You mean Jay Watamaniuk? Serious Watamaniuk is serious. Possibly, although if it is, he signed a whole load of the K1 source scripts as "Preston" for no apparent reason... This particularly rapid, unintelligible patter isn't generally heard, and if it is, it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Why fret over the stuff you don't have any control over, eh? What were you talking again? Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 And Karpyshyn. And Preston Watamaniuk, who wins the awesome name competition. You mean Jay Watamaniuk? Serious Watamaniuk is serious. Possibly, although if it is, he signed a whole load of the K1 source scripts as "Preston" for no apparent reason... They're brothers, they both work for Bioware. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Embrace the simplicity of Hades-logic. Except it makes perfect sense. Buying video games isn't really a huge decision. If you like the game, buy it. If you don't, then don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristes Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Yeah, I tend to agree with Killian also. It's not really a matter of life or death, so go with the flow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted June 30, 2009 Author Share Posted June 30, 2009 Well, Hades-logic doesn't apply to Morgie, since he buys games and consoles he knows he'll hate. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aries101 Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 I remember back in the summer/ autum (fall) of 2008 and even further back to the winter 2007/2008 where we discussed the drm for Mass Effect. Plenty of criticism there...both for Bioware as a company and against the drm used in Mass Effect and other games. And it worked.... I have seen people criticizing the videos for Dragon Age being both politely, strongly, vehemently and people arguing, disagreeing in a somewhat constructive way. Some (even myself, I think) have critizised Bioware as company for selling out, for not showing the real content in the game. Please support http://www.maternityworldwide.org/ - and save a mother giving birth to a child. Please support, Andrew Bub, the gamerdad - at http://gamingwithchildren.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Except they have showed the 'real' content of the game. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria Caliban Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Saying 'BioWare has sold out' suggests they weren't always in the business of making money. As far as I know, the doctors have never worked on any of the games. There have always been, and still are, people who are passionate about making RPGs at Bioware, but the company wasn't founded by two eager young game developers, was it? "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 Saying 'BioWare has sold out' suggests they weren't always in the business of making money. As far as I know, the doctors have never worked on any of the games. There have always been, and still are, people who are passionate about making RPGs at Bioware, but the company wasn't founded by two eager young game developers, was it? Pretty sure the docs did some design on the early games as well. Wasn't Greg credited as designer for MDK2? Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted June 30, 2009 Share Posted June 30, 2009 "As far as I know, the doctors have never worked on any of the games. There have always been, and still are, people who are passionate about making RPGs at Bioware, but the company wasn't founded by two eager young game developers, was it? " Eh? Why else would they have gone into game development? There's no way they could have known for sure that BIO would ahve been this successful. And, they no doubt have played a development role in each of their games. At least when it comes to general design. I believe they had games like ME and JE in the back of their mind long before they actively started working on it. They were also rather upfront in their interest to make a MMO well before theirs was officially announced. To try to take away theirtheir credit for BIO's success is silly. No doctors, no BG. Period. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted July 1, 2009 Share Posted July 1, 2009 (edited) Saying 'BioWare has sold out' suggests they weren't always in the business of making money. As far as I know, the doctors have never worked on any of the games. There have always been, and still are, people who are passionate about making RPGs at Bioware, but the company wasn't founded by two eager young game developers, was it? The term "sold out" is also often used when artist(s) compromise their creative integrity for the sake of making more money than they already do. Do not get me wrong. Every artist wants top make a ****load of money and be financially independent, so to speak. However, the art that they create, whatever it may be, is usually the first priority. Anyone with a sense of backbone, character and integrity knows that. For example, Michael bay makes bad movies that really sell, but he has not sacrificed his creativity, since he has been pretty consequent in his vision (= special effects, explosions, teenheroes and female boobage). The minute Bay will start talking about "reaching out", "expanding the base" and "making a movie that anyone can enjoy", then he has sold out by the very definition that i provided. Edited July 1, 2009 by Gorth Circumventing language filter "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted July 1, 2009 Author Share Posted July 1, 2009 Bioware is sticking to its roots; I'm not sure why people are PMSing over it. They've always been focused on making ****. This is a newer iteration of it. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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