Slowtrain Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 Reviewers are such horrible people for enjoying their games. Reviewers should cater solely to angry irate nerds because they're such a huge and important demographic. I expect reviewers to bring more tools and knowledge to the table than non reviewers. They are not playing the game to enjoy it any more than the QA people are playing the game to enjoy it. They have a job to do. If the happen to enjoy it, that's great. But in that instance enjoyment is not the priority. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Moatilliatta Posted April 14, 2009 Posted April 14, 2009 I never said that. The only way to make game reviews directly relevant to everyone is to make a review for every deranged person out there. You can't expect a generalized score to be relevant to you if you're an angry irate internet nerd. As such people like us will have to actually read the review and try to understand it to see if we want to buy the game.
RangerSG Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 I can't share the enthusiasm for a D&D project, since that will mean the abomination 4e ruleset. And I've already sworn never to buy anything related to that. Pathfinder would work though... Arcanum 2 would be interesting, though more likely a steampunk/ Dark Towerish RPG---oh, now THAT would be fun--a Dark Tower RPG. I'd prefer Warhammer to 40k. If I were to have my dream setting for sci-fi, it would be Babylon 5. I'm guessing something D&D though, given the advanced notice.
Wrath of Dagon Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 (edited) I'm totally aware of the "just because you don't like a game doesn't mean it's bad" thing. SOmetimes its true. But there are also times, when you don't like a game and it is in fact a bad game. I agree with that, my point was specifically about Oblivion though. OK, it might be detailed, but it's still a piece of ****. Oblivion is essentially like Postal only without all the fun stuff. Ultimately, you feel there isn't really any point in anything you do. Everything from the visual style to the story to the "details" are just wonderfully bland. What's the point with detail if it doesn't add to a meaningful game experience? Why isn't there a point? You're given tasks and you fullfill them, just like in any RPG. In addition you can explore and have adventures. The point is to enjoy the gameplay. I understand not everyone enjoyed the stuff you did in Oblivion, but like I said, that's personal preference. Edited April 15, 2009 by Wrath of Dagon "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Morgoth Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 Most likely Atari will be the publisher, because they want to put their D&D license to good use. And right now Obsidian is really the only possible choice for doing a multiplatform D&D RPG. I suspect it will be either NWN3 or BG3, and will be a Dragon Age clone (For heaven's sake, I hope not). Rain makes everything better.
Deadly_Nightshade Posted April 15, 2009 Posted April 15, 2009 I'm totally aware of the "just because you don't like a game doesn't mean it's bad" thing. SOmetimes its true. But there are also times, when you don't like a game and it is in fact a bad game. I agree with that, my point was specifically about Oblivion though. Oblivion being the "bad game" in the quote. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
RangerSG Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 Most likely Atari will be the publisher, because they want to put their D&D license to good use. And right now Obsidian is really the only possible choice for doing a multiplatform D&D RPG. I suspect it will be either NWN3 or BG3, and will be a Dragon Age clone (For heaven's sake, I hope not). Well, it can't be NWN3, since Neverwinter doesn't exist in 4e. So I'm sure they'll call it something else. But it'll be intended to fill that market, I think as well. I do hope I'm wrong, I really have no intention of supporting 4e in any way, shape, or form.
H Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 (edited) https://twitter.com/jesawyer superfans have something to look forward to. An official announcement would make this world a slightly tyter place to live in. P. S. You are growing weak, funroc. Edited April 16, 2009 by H
Zoma Posted April 16, 2009 Author Posted April 16, 2009 Hrm. What about Torn? Seen the old artwork of the game before. Its certainly does look very unique and almost Dark Sun'ish in atmospheric term.
Jaesun Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 Most likely Atari will be the publisher, because they want to put their D&D license to good use. And right now Obsidian is really the only possible choice for doing a multiplatform D&D RPG. I suspect it will be either NWN3 or BG3, and will be a Dragon Age clone (For heaven's sake, I hope not). Well, it can't be NWN3, since Neverwinter doesn't exist in 4e. So I'm sure they'll call it something else. But it'll be intended to fill that market, I think as well. I do hope I'm wrong, I really have no intention of supporting 4e in any way, shape, or form. Neverwinter while indeed "destroyed" in 4th ED does not mean that it could not be rebuilt. If I remember correctly, in NWN1, wasn't in a state of repair after Luskan attacked it? Personally I'd rather they abandon the "Neverwinter" name and start with Waterdeep Nights". Though my feeling on what game it is... I'm almost certain Atari has approached both CDProjekt and Obsidian for D&D games. As for what game each dev was approached for, remains a mystary. Some of my Youtube Classic Roland MT-32 Video Game Music videos | My Music | My Photography
Rostere Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 superfans have something to look forward to. Yes! This has to be something good "Well, overkill is my middle name. And my last name. And all of my other names as well!"
Syraxis Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 superfans have something to look forward to. Yes! This has to be something good I think you're right I can't wait for the announcement.
mkreku Posted April 16, 2009 Posted April 16, 2009 What's a superfan? A jet engine? KotOR3 fanatics? What? WHAT?? This suspense is killing me! Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish!
Slowtrain Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 I hope its not a superhero rpg. I hate superheros. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Hell Kitty Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 A superfan is the type of fan who hides out in the bushes outside Sawyer's place. Oh, and I'd LOVE an Obsidian superhero RPG.
Slowtrain Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Oh, and I'd LOVE an Obsidian superhero RPG. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Hell Kitty Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 No, really, It'd be a nice change from the medieval fantasy that dominate RPGs. Hell, are there any singleplayer superhero RPGs that aren't focused purely on combat?
Pop Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Considering that a new IP probably wouldn't have superfans, I'm banking on this being a sequel. And KOTOR3 seems highly unlikely, so I'm going to place my money on Baldur's Gate 3. Atari is on the rise financially and they could really use a megawatt hit to announce their official return. They've already expressed their interest in making another BG. So I'm betting it's that. But he could just mean "superfans" of Obsidian. Sawyer is a tricky **** like that. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality!
Deadly_Nightshade Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Bloodlines II... "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
RangerSG Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Bloodlines II... Now something in the World of Darkness I could go for. Vampires, Mages, either is fine. Better, one that lets you do either one in the game itself. Please...not a 4e game.
Slowtrain Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 I would enjoy either a BG3 or IWD3. My only concern on IWD3 is that Josh already did a take on IWD and I didn't enjoy it very much. But IWD wouldn't seem a strong enough IP for Obsidian devs to be getting THAT excited, so I am leaning toward a BG3. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Syraxis Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Considering superfans have something to look forward to. I'm going to guess that Josh is the project lead and it's a sequel to a game that has been awaited for quite a while. Also Me Trees...
Hell Kitty Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 Bloodlines II... Nah, it's be Vampire: The Requiem: Some Other Subtitle.
ericjones Posted April 17, 2009 Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) No, really, It'd be a nice change from the medieval fantasy that dominate RPGs. Indeed it would. That's why I'd rather have Vampire (it would be the third in the series after Redemption and Bloodlines) or Kotor 3 than BG3 or IWD3. I was never a huge fan of the Icewind Dale series, and hopefully Dragon Age will, optimistically speaking, fill the Baldur's Gate void. A superhero singleplayer RPG could be cool as well. The the closest I've come those are the Freedom Force games, but they're quite far from being proper RPGs (more like strategy with leveling). I'm still waiting for the announcement of the THIRD installment in the Freedom Force series, though Jokes aside, I'll hold my finger on Kotor 3. After all, the Kotor MMOG is coming, and that could open up a new market for the series. And more importantly: It's about friggin' time! Edited April 17, 2009 by ericjones
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