Humodour Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 I'm just worried that when McCain has a heart attack it'll be Palin who takes over. Does anybody want that? Really?
Moatilliatta Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) I don't which is something I mentioned earlier in the prior thread. Palin is exactly what I don't want. And, no. McCain doesn't look tired. Edited September 27, 2008 by Moatilliatta
Trenitay Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 No he doesn't look tired. He looks like a chipmunk. But thats not the point. The point is that McCain is bad, Palin is worse and the two of them together will just be awful for America. Hey now, my mother is huge and don't you forget it. The drunk can't even get off the couch to make herself a vodka drenched sandwich. Octopus suck.
LadyCrimson Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) Watch the debate, or don't bother, because the media are always going to try to convince you that the candidate they like did it better than his opponent, regardless of what happened. I would say that applies to almost everyone, to some degree or other, not just "the media.' - McCain didn't look at Obama one single time during the debate. I noticed that as well. I think he did actually glance at him from the corners of his eyes, so to speak, a few times, but it was a very noticeable behaviour. Course, Obama hardly looked at McCain in the beginning either, but then seemed to get the hosts message about wanting them to talk to each other and occasionally tried to look at/engage McCain in face-to-face...which McCain largely ignored. That aspect of the debate became a large (and amusing) distraction for me...their actual 'debate' was hardly more than just them making speeches to the host. Obama is the better orator in general...but I haven't been very impressed with either of them and this debate didn't change that. Edited September 27, 2008 by LadyCrimson “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts
random n00b Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 I would say that applies to almost everyone, to some degree or other, not just "the media.' Good point. I guess it's just naive of me to expect a bit of objectivity from "serious" media.
Meshugger Posted September 27, 2008 Posted September 27, 2008 (edited) I just saw Nader on Bill Maher. Boy, the guy was one step away from But he did offer some interesting points: - "The only real capitalism left in this country is in the small business, mom & pop-stores and alike, at least they have the freedom to file for bankrupsy." - "Big companies however, get help from socialistic superman, flying from his washington HQ to the rescue." - "History books will write this episode down as 'The corporate destruction of capitalism." This might belong in the economy-thread, but hey, Nader is running for president, isn't he? Edited September 27, 2008 by Meshugger "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Humodour Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 I found this interesting. Long-time Republicans question McCain's experience in choosing Pailin. http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na...0,3440078.story It didn't occur to me before, but now that they mention it, she does tend to govern just like Bush.
Walsingham Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 I found this interesting. Long-time Republicans question McCain's experience in choosing Pailin. http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na...0,3440078.story It didn't occur to me before, but now that they mention it, she does tend to govern just like Bush. I think either way, we're looking at Palin running for President in 2012. Handmaid's Tale anyone? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Humodour Posted September 28, 2008 Posted September 28, 2008 If anybody is up for a good laugh, watch these: http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/vid...in-open/704042/ http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/vid...-debate/704121/ Might help to press pause a few seconds after the video starts and then wait for it to buffer a bit.
walkerguy Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 This is actually thread #3. 1: http://forums.obsidian.net/index.php?showt...mp;#entry832180 2: http://forums.obsidian.net/index.php?showtopic=49786 Not that it matters much. Hmm... need to catch up on the politics... Twitter | @Insevin
Humodour Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 McCain's new mode of attack on Obama is to claim "Life isn't fair" when asked about Obama's success in the polls compared to his failure. Does McCain want to lose?
random n00b Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 Interestingly enough, that's probably the first time I've heard a politician being completely honest.
Humodour Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 "The underlying differences between the Republican and Democratic Parties boils down to a very simple thing. The Republicans believe that the power of the Government should be used, first of all, to help the rich and privileged people of this country. With them property comes first. The Democrats believe that the powers of the Government should be used to give the common man some protection, and a chance to make a decent living. With the Democrats the people come first. The Democratic Party is a political organization that has a heart--it cares about the people--it cares about all the people, rich and poor alike. The Republican Party is ruled by a little group of men who have calculating machines where their hearts ought to be. Sometimes the Republicans aid their clientele by special favors--like the rich man's tax cut bill which was passed by the 80th Congress over my veto--or like their attempts to give away the Nation's oil resources to all the big oil interests. Sometimes the Republicans aid their special friends by doing nothing--by a philosophy of each man for himself and the devil take the hindmost. That's why they've fought such measures as minimum wage laws, social security, and the protection of the right of labor unions to organize. All these things and others like them have been opposed by the Republicans." ---Harry S Truman October 6, 1952
Humodour Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 Interestingly enough, that's probably the first time I've heard a politician being completely honest. Perhaps so. But I can't help but feel it's because he thinks he somehow deserves to be ahead. Indeed - he went on to claim Obama has done nothing to earn his lead in the polls, whilst he, of course has been working very hard. Sorry McCain, the sympathy vote might have worked with the PoW claims, but this is stretching it.
Hurlshort Posted October 2, 2008 Posted October 2, 2008 "The underlying differences between the Republican and Democratic Parties boils down to a very simple thing. The Republicans believe that the power of the Government should be used, first of all, to help the rich and privileged people of this country. With them property comes first. The Democrats believe that the powers of the Government should be used to give the common man some protection, and a chance to make a decent living. With the Democrats the people come first. The Democratic Party is a political organization that has a heart--it cares about the people--it cares about all the people, rich and poor alike. The Republican Party is ruled by a little group of men who have calculating machines where their hearts ought to be. Sometimes the Republicans aid their clientele by special favors--like the rich man's tax cut bill which was passed by the 80th Congress over my veto--or like their attempts to give away the Nation's oil resources to all the big oil interests. Sometimes the Republicans aid their special friends by doing nothing--by a philosophy of each man for himself and the devil take the hindmost. That's why they've fought such measures as minimum wage laws, social security, and the protection of the right of labor unions to organize. All these things and others like them have been opposed by the Republicans." ---Harry S Truman October 6, 1952 Odd that a president from the democratic party would sound so biased... I will say the parties have change a lot since the FDR's era.
Humodour Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 The VP Debate: The Strangest I've Ever Seen Exactly an hour into the debate, Joe Biden began an answer by saying, "Facts matter, Gwen." To him, maybe. To Sarah Palin, maybe not. The pattern, so far, has been one of Biden presenting facts and Palin countering with
Humodour Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 (edited) lol @ google trends: (click to enlarge) Edited October 3, 2008 by Krezack
Strix Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 (edited) Well, I'm re-watching the Vice Presidential debate and my first impression, that Biden was the stronger speaker, seems to be correct. Almost every time he made a point and Palin responded with canned responses and Alaskan stories. While this might have given some people an insight into her style, anyone who has read articles about her and listened to recent interviews and speeches would not have learned much, if anything. Talking about the interviews, I was slightly disappointed that there were no entertaining mishaps like the ones in the Katie Couric piece, but in general tonight already confirmed what I had already believed - I would rather have Biden "one heartbeat away" from the presidency, not Sarah Palin. Edited October 3, 2008 by Strix
Volourn Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Harry Truman's speech was toolish. I lik,e how he dehumanizes his enemies. Disgusting. "They're not human, they're machines! They even have machine parts where their heart should be!" L0L0L0L0L0LLIP0P DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Humodour Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Harry Truman's speech was toolish. I lik,e how he dehumanizes his enemies. Disgusting. "They're not human, they're machines! They even have machine parts where their heart should be!" L0L0L0L0L0LLIP0P Let me know when Bioware stops sucking.
Volourn Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 So, I was right what I said about Truman's speech then? You most certainly agree. That's good to know. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Humodour Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Not really - Truman was only speaking the truth. I just got confused when you went into 4chan mode talking about lolipops.
Volourn Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 So, he showed the true Democratic 'heart' by dehumanizing his opponents? Awesome. if that's what it means to have a heart; I'd rather not have one. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Humodour Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Truman didn't dehumanise them; he painted the truth. They think the market is an end not a means; that's pretty inhumane to begin with.
Volourn Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 He did dehumanize them. Read his speech that you quoted. He said they had no hearts, and were jsut mechanical. That's dehumanizing them. Truman is now a punk to me. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
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