Aliens vs. Predator (2): Requiem

[Arkan]

Is this real? Can anyone confirm it?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqpMqpX3z0A...readid%3D126646

 

If so, it already looks 1000 times better than the first.

[Deraldin]

It wouldn't be hard to be a 1000 times better than the first movie. If I'm not mistaken I saw several people actually die in that trailer and not just their shadows!

[Azure79]

I would probably be more excited if it was just Predators vs. Aliens and no humans were involved. It would be interesting if the film explored Predator culture, the hunt and their Code of Honor and how they view the Aliens species as the perfect prey. Why can't we have a Predator as the main character?

 

I'm expecting another film where some guy or gal fights and survives while trained military personnel get cut down like so much fodder.

 

[Rosbjerg]

looks like some of the Aliens were cloaked as well .. :ninja10:

[GreasyDogMeat]

I also made a post about this yesterday in the Alien RPG forum, though this was probably the more appropriate forum for it.

 

http://forums.obsidianent.com/index.php?showtopic=47839

 

Also, there is a link to a much higher quality version of the trailer.

[Gorgon]

I wish someone would perform an operation to remove all traces of predators from from oficial alien 'cannon'

[GreasyDogMeat]

I think they work together extremly well in comic and video game formats... and I'm thinking this next AvP movie just might make them work well together on the big screen.

 

I'd still love to see some 'pure' Alien or Predator sequels.

[Gorgon]

I disagree on comics, but, the games haven't been bad.

 

In movies, the crab faced hunters fared quite well alone, Predator 2 is better for my money than the last Alien movie.

 

They don't work well with Aliens in movies because the Alien universe should be all about survival horror and most of all realism. The preds don't fit the bill, they are too much larger than life, and they aren't needed anyway, for realism you need a strong acting component, preds can't act, at least Aliens can be scary.

[GreasyDogMeat]

One of the things I've heard and like about this upcoming movie is there will only be one predator, and much of the movie is survival horror. People trapped in a small town trying to stay alive, though I'm betting things start hitting the fan in the later sections of the movie with military involvement and larger scale pred-alien battles.

 

Judging from the trailer alone, this movie could be much better than Alien 3, Resurrection, Predator 2 and, of course, the first AvP movie. I don't really hold any of the alien sequels, except Aliens in very high regard and the Predator sequel was so-so. AvP could have atleast been a decent action movie, but they had to go and lower it to PG-13 for the kiddies which really ruined the experience. Really, who was expecting AvP 1 to be intelligent? Remove the gore/violent action and you really have nothing but a few cheap scares.

 

I'm really hoping AvP 2 Requiem has some decent character interaction but if it doesn't, atleast it looks like AvP 2 can fall back on the action.

Edited August 25, 2007 by GreasyDogMeat

[Gorgon]

I have a soft spot for predator 2, even if it is pretty silly, it did what it was supposed to do well, and I like Danny Glover as leading man, other than that, everything after Aliens have been varying degrees of disapoinment, the greatest disapoinment is that one of my favorite directors screwed up one of my favorite series, eg, Alien Ressurection, by going the 'comic' route instead of holding to realism.

 

Space pirates and gene alien muppet freaks,... what the hell for ???

Edited August 25, 2007 by Gorgon

[GreasyDogMeat]

As bad as Resurrection was, I'd have to say my all time least favorite of all the Alien or Pred movies was Alien 3. There was just absolutly nothing to care about.

 

I knew things weren't looking good when some of my favorite characters from Aliens are killed a minute in to the movie on a computer screen. All we have left is Ripley with a bunch of A-hole prison inmates. With only a SINGLE likable character in the movie, almost all of the horror is removed. I was frankly rooting for the alien.

 

Then, at the end of the movie, the only character I cared about is offed.

 

The only thing that Alien 3 got right was the atmosphere and I thought the alien was kind of cool. I may be in the minority on that point of view though, as I've heard many thought the alien looked like lame CGI crap.

 

I even hold AvP 1 above Alien 3.

[Gorgon]

Well yes, I suppose boring is much worse than bad, but Delicatessen, City of the forgotten children, Amelie - some of my favorite wacky movies. Then this bland mash of comercialism and eye candy. So sad.

Edited August 25, 2007 by Gorgon

[GreasyDogMeat]

I really need to see City of Lost Children. I love strange imaginative movies like Terry Gilliam fare. 12 Monkeys and The Adventures of Baron Munchausen are two of my all time favorite movies.

 

I still enjoy good sci-fi action horror films though. Pulling off good slow build isolation sci-fi horror seems much harder than pulling off good sci-fi action/action horror. When slower paced sci-fi horror works, though, it is VERY good (Alien, The Thing). The problem is, if it is bad/has unlikable characters it really is trash with no redeeming qualities.

[Tale]

Aliens in a non futuristic setting can't do anything but suck. However, I will still watch it at theatres and buy the special edition DVD.

[Blarghagh]

It looks like a slasher.

 

I suppose that makes it better than Alien 3, Alien Ressurection and Alien vs Predator.

 

I disagree that it will easily be better than Predator 2 because of nostalgia! Predator 2 was awesome, and is extremely quotable.

[Lyric Suite]

It wouldn't be hard to be a 1000 times better than the first movie.

 

Looks just as ****ty to me.

[Sand]

Never saw the first AvP and I have no desire to. Same with the sequel. Of the originals I like Predator 2 the best out of both series, with Aliens being second, then Ressurection, Predator, Alien, and then Alien 3.

[GreasyDogMeat]

Predator 2 had its moments, but again I found myself rooting for the creature. Most of the movie the pred spends slaughering drug dealers and gang members... it was almost like an alien version of Robocop.

 

That wasn't actually a bad thing though in some ways. It was also pretty cool to see the new pred gadgets like the Disc. Predator 2, for me, had somewhat less likable characters and they also lost a lot of the tension moving the action from the jungle to the city. There was a real isolation to the first movie, and a tension of not knowing what was in the forest stalking these men. I still remember the build up to the creature as being one of the scariest and tense moments I had ever seen and it amazes me I can rewatch Pred 1, knowing what is coming but still feeling tense. Pred 2, almost all of the entertainment value of the movie comes from seeing the pred kick ass and the final chase/battle between Glover and the Pred.

 

For me Pred 2 is a midway point in the Alien/Predator movies. No where near as amazing or ground breaking as Alien, Aliens or Predator, but no where near as bad as Alien 3, Alien Resurrection or AvP.

[Blarghagh]

Predator 2 is definately underrated.

[Kaftan Barlast]

Alien and Aliens traumatized me deeply as a child, since then the Alien franchise have gone straight to hell.

 

 

 

 

Predator 2 is an awesome 80's action flick, I like it lots... it not in the same ballpark as Alien, and I dislike the crossovers that have been done.

[Tale]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKnS7CGWNmU

[Gorgon]

What Cameron said !

[Meshugger]

Heh, i almost feel proud of only seen Alien and Aliens. Of some reason, i never got myself to see the newer ones.

[GreasyDogMeat]

I'd agree with Cameron, but Alien 3 and Resurrection already screwed up the franchise. I don't see how you could possibly go lower than Alien 3, and IMHO AvP didn't go lower than Alien 3 as it atleast had some mildly entertaining scenes and locations. Seriously, Alien 3 and Resurrection took the franchise down to the slums, AvP is just wallowing in the lowered bar.

 

While I doubt Requiem will come anywhere near Alien, Aliens or the original Predator, I have a feeling based on the trailer that it wont be the same level of garbage that Alien 3, Resurrection or AvP were. It might, if nothing else, be a decent summer action/horror movie... somewhere around the Pred 2 level.

[Musopticon?]

Was I seriously the only one who liked Alien 3.

 

I thought it was delightfully bleak and understated.