KOTOR 2: Sith Lord

[kefka]

Almost everything you do in KotOR is 'beneath' a Sith Lord, until you discover you are one, then the writing starts to reflect that.

Prior to that, you have petty "hand over your money or die" threats, or simply act like a childish bully. You're not a Sith, more like a common criminal.

Going to Korriban last is your reward though - you finally get the dialogue a true Sith deserves (well, it could be better but you can't quibble!).

[triCritical]

Almost everything you do in KotOR is 'beneath' a Sith Lord, until you discover you are one, then the writing starts to reflect that.

Prior to that, you have petty "hand over your money or die" threats, or simply act like a childish bully. You're not a Sith, more like a common criminal.

Going to Korriban last is your reward though - you finally get the dialogue a true Sith deserves (well, it could be better but you can't quibble!).

Its funny that you mention your character acts like a childish bully until he becomes a sith lord. Especially since the majority of sith jedi's on Korriban act like retard bullies in the 5th grade. Playing evil characters in Bioware games has always been painful, KotOR is not exception. Until a developer tries to capture intent and motive, I don't think you can capture a good evil character. I think this was done to some extent in PS:T giving you the option to say good stuff, however, it being prefaced as a lie.

[kefka]

Especially since the majority of sith jedi's on Korriban act like retard bullies in the 5th grade.

That's true, but I was thinking more of Uthar Wynn and Yuthura Ban. They were very well written. If all Sith masters were like those I'd join them in an instant.

Childish threats and taunts I can do without.

[AlanC9]

It would have worked better if they hadn't dropped so many clues.

 

The moment Carth babbles about how the force can wipe your mind I knew something was up. There were so many clues I would have been more surprised if I hadn't been Revan in a past life.

The really blatant clue has got to be Vrook's "What if we train him and Revan comes back" line. When I got to that on my second play, I was acutely embarassed that I missed the clue before.

[Darque]

How odd... I never got a clue like that.

 

Of course I didn't do all the dialogue options... the jedi council annoyed me...

 

Of course Ol' prune face's remark about "taking you down an all familiar path" was the final nail in the coffin.

[kefka]

"What if we train him and Revan comes back"

Vrook is responding to Vandar's comment about Revan being killed.

 

I think the actual response is:

 

Are you sure that Revan is truly dead? What if we take it upon ourselves to train this one and the Dark Lord should return?

That line gives it away really. It is an obvious clue. I suspected that he was still alive at that point but never guessed that you are Revan.

[newc0253]

Of course I didn't do all the dialogue options... the jedi council annoyed me...

me too. it was a cliche, and not a good one either.

 

if you were really a former sith lord, why the hell didn't more people take one look at you and run away screaming? at the very least, there should have been a hell of a lot more blanching and folks unwilling to look you in the eye (however you communicate that in a CRPG). i mean if hitler had his mind wiped, you don't think he would be able to join the British army as a private without anyone commenting? "bloody hell Higgins, you're the spitting image of that Furher chap who disappeared mysteriously last month! and what's with the german accent?"

 

oh right, 'cause Revan wore a mask, right? laaaaaaaaame.

 

the plot twist in KoTOR was stupid, stupid, stupid.

[Darque]

Are you sure that Revan is truly dead? What if we take it upon ourselves to train this one and the Dark Lord should return?

 

Oops. Guess I got that one after all.

 

Yup, that was so obvious it was lame.

 

oh right, 'cause Revan wore a mask, right? laaaaaaaaame.

 

Ah, but it wasn't any ol' mask... it was a +10 Sith Mask of Hiding Your Identity :D

[tripleRRR]

I thought the mask looked cool, at the time I thought it was a tribute to vader more than anything else.

 

 

TripleRRR

[AlanC9]

Of course I didn't do all the dialogue options... the jedi council annoyed me...

me too. it was a cliche, and not a good one either.

 

if you were really a former sith lord, why the hell didn't more people take one look at you and run away screaming? at the very least, there should have been a hell of a lot more blanching and folks unwilling to look you in the eye (however you communicate that in a CRPG). i mean if hitler had his mind wiped, you don't think he would be able to join the British army as a private without anyone commenting? "bloody hell Higgins, you're the spitting image of that Furher chap who disappeared mysteriously last month! and what's with the german accent?"

 

oh right, 'cause Revan wore a mask, right? laaaaaaaaame.

 

the plot twist in KoTOR was stupid, stupid, stupid.

That didn't bug me so much -- I don't see Jedi as really going in for Meet the Press appearances or whatever the SW equivalent would be. I couldn't pick Tommy Franks out of a police lineup today, and I doubt I'd do any better with a pre-mask Revan.

 

For that matter, how many folks would recognize Hitler if he ditched the mustache?

[Drakron]

I would, its not too hard with those eyes and hair style.

[Tigranes]

Very many, alan. Maybe if he cut his hair (or grew it), dyed it, changed hairstyle, put on lots of cosmetics, shaved off his trademark moustache, then held himself differently.

[Topaz Quasar]

Interesting..

 

it also is saying the product is PC, not X-box. You would think if the x-box version was supposed to come out well before the pc that the x-box version would pop up

KOTOR2 will be released at the same time for PC & X-Box. (most of the work on the engine was already done by Bioware)

[Director]

KOTOR2 will be released at the same time for PC & X-Box. (most of the work on the engine was already done by Bioware)

 

I suspect Microsoft will ensure that KoTOR 2 gets a healthy head start on the Xbox.

[Topaz Quasar]

KOTOR2 will be released at the same time for PC & X-Box. (most of the work on the engine was already done by Bioware)

 

I suspect Microsoft will ensure that KoTOR 2 gets a healthy head start on the Xbox.

I don't see how; they aren't publishing the game.

 

The only reason the first KOTOR came out on X-Box first was because they needed more time to get the PC version optimized. Since they're reusing the game engine, they don't need to do all that extra work.

[sniggy]

Sadly..... Zaalbar the brainless... (wookies live a loooooooooooooong time)

 

Of course if they jump ahead a thousand years or so... no wookie... but the droids might still be around.

i killed zaalbar in the first game.

 

IF he returns, i'll kill him again.

 

stupid fleabag.

[Dead Skin Mask]

Sadly..... Zaalbar the brainless... (wookies live a loooooooooooooong time)

 

Of course if they jump ahead a thousand years or so... no wookie... but the droids might still be around.

i killed zaalbar in the first game.

 

IF he returns, i'll kill him again.

 

stupid fleabag.

Personally I found the weak minded wookiee to be very handy especially when it came time to kill Mission. Having a wookiee who does what he's told at your side is a good thing mainly when you want somebody's arms riped from their sockets. On the other hand he was a bloody bore as far as conversation goes but in his defence at least he wasn't an over preachy wind bag like Jolee.

 

Cheers!