Walsingham Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Sorry, I didn't mean to start a pseudo-argument about whether Salvatore is a good author or not. Yeah, as you guys have guessed, I'm still in high school, and its better (read: less boring) than what I'm supposed to be reading, so there you go . Fair does, mate. You enjoy what you like. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Hurlshort Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 Sorry, I didn't mean to start a pseudo-argument about whether Salvatore is a good author or not. Yeah, as you guys have guessed, I'm still in high school, and its better (read: less boring) than what I'm supposed to be reading, so there you go . In High School, you are supposed to be reading stuff like Salvatore. Don't let any out of touch teachers tell you different. Trust me, I'm an out of touch teacher myself. Seriously though, what stuff are they assigning you to read? I remember a few pretty good books from my High School Lit. classes, and I just got done teaching "The Giver" for the summer. I try to keep our novels fairly good over the course of the year, although I haven't taught Language Arts in a couple years. I covered A Samurai's Tale, The Giver, and Scarlet and Minivier last time I taught LA for a year. And if you mean textbooks, just know that your teachers don't expect you to read everything, they just want you to develop enough skimming skills to sound like you know everything I think the only textbook I really read regularly in High School was my AP European History one, that was an awesome book of history.
I want teh kotor 3 Posted July 24, 2008 Posted July 24, 2008 (edited) Sorry, I didn't mean to start a pseudo-argument about whether Salvatore is a good author or not. Yeah, as you guys have guessed, I'm still in high school, and its better (read: less boring) than what I'm supposed to be reading, so there you go . In High School, you are supposed to be reading stuff like Salvatore. Don't let any out of touch teachers tell you different. Trust me, I'm an out of touch teacher myself. Seriously though, what stuff are they assigning you to read? I remember a few pretty good books from my High School Lit. classes, and I just got done teaching "The Giver" for the summer. I try to keep our novels fairly good over the course of the year, although I haven't taught Language Arts in a couple years. I covered A Samurai's Tale, The Giver, and Scarlet and Minivier last time I taught LA for a year. Everything I'm supposed to read is either Shakspeare or a depressing chick-flick-in-book-form (Tuesdays with Morrie, anyone?) And if you mean textbooks, just know that your teachers don't expect you to read everything, they just want you to develop enough skimming skills to sound like you know everything I think the only textbook I really read regularly in High School was my AP European History one, that was an awesome book of history. Textbooks are more interesting than literature to me. Especially Shakespeare. I really hate his stuff. Romeo and Juliet is the only book I ever fell asleep reading . Edited July 24, 2008 by I want teh kotor 3 In 7th grade, I teach the students how Chuck Norris took down the Roman Empire, so it is good that you are starting early on this curriculum. R.I.P. KOTOR 2003-2008 KILLED BY THOSE GREEDY MONEY-HOARDING ************* AND THEIR *****-*** MMOS
Walsingham Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Hamlet is better if you imagine them in mechs. Seriously. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Shryke Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Hamlet is better if you imagine them in mechs. Seriously. holy scuba monkeys! that's brilliant when your mind works against you - fight back with substance abuse!
Rosbjerg Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 I read the Isac Asimov Foundation Series. And now I'm reading: Fortune favors the bald.
I want teh kotor 3 Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Hamlet is better if you imagine them in mechs. Seriously. Alright, when I'm forced to read it, I'll try pretending its Gundam . I read the Isac Asimov Foundation Series. And now I'm reading: Surprising, I actually liked that. In 7th grade, I teach the students how Chuck Norris took down the Roman Empire, so it is good that you are starting early on this curriculum. R.I.P. KOTOR 2003-2008 KILLED BY THOSE GREEDY MONEY-HOARDING ************* AND THEIR *****-*** MMOS
Walsingham Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Hamlet is better if you imagine them in mechs. Seriously. Alright, when I'm forced to read it, I'll try pretending its Gundam . I particularly liked the scene where Hamlet kills Polonius. "How now! dead, fora ducat! Dead!" As Hamlet let's rip a whole fusillade of medium rockets, the bang and clink of discarded rounds. The comedic remark from Polonius before the rockets streak home: "Oh! I am slain!" "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
I want teh kotor 3 Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Hamlet is better if you imagine them in mechs. Seriously. Alright, when I'm forced to read it, I'll try pretending its Gundam . I particularly liked the scene where Hamlet kills Polonius. "How now! dead, fora ducat! Dead!" As Hamlet let's rip a whole fusillade of medium rockets, the bang and clink of discarded rounds. The comedic remark from Polonius before the rockets streak home: "Oh! I am slain!" In 7th grade, I teach the students how Chuck Norris took down the Roman Empire, so it is good that you are starting early on this curriculum. R.I.P. KOTOR 2003-2008 KILLED BY THOSE GREEDY MONEY-HOARDING ************* AND THEIR *****-*** MMOS
Gorth Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 Hamlet is better if you imagine them in mechs. Seriously. Alright, when I'm forced to read it, I'll try pretending its Gundam . I particularly liked the scene where Hamlet kills Polonius. "How now! dead, fora ducat! Dead!" As Hamlet let's rip a whole fusillade of medium rockets, the bang and clink of discarded rounds. The comedic remark from Polonius before the rockets streak home: "Oh! I am slain!" All those in favour of a Walsingham re-write of Hamlet raise their hands. *Raises hand* “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
Tigranes Posted July 25, 2008 Posted July 25, 2008 He can load it up with Army references! I have Robert Harris' Imperium (rare impulse buy because I had nothing to do that afternoon). Pretty decent, entertaining enough to finish and reasonably historically accurate (and detailed). I particularly liked the way he decided to characterise Cicero - it's very, very convincing int erms of historical evidence. Rather a sad story, in that way. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
Fionavar Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Culpepper, Alan R. Anatomy of the Fourth gospel: A Study in Literary Design. Sagan, Carl. The Varieties of Scientific Experience: A Personal View of the Search for God. The universe is change; your life is what our thoughts make it - Marcus Aurelius (161)
qt3.14159 Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Hamlet is better if you imagine them in mechs. Seriously. Alright, when I'm forced to read it, I'll try pretending its Gundam . I particularly liked the scene where Hamlet kills Polonius. "How now! dead, fora ducat! Dead!" As Hamlet let's rip a whole fusillade of medium rockets, the bang and clink of discarded rounds. The comedic remark from Polonius before the rockets streak home: "Oh! I am slain!" All those in favour of a Walsingham re-write of Hamlet raise their hands. *Raises hand* Actually, that would be an awesome video project for someone to do. Anyone draw anime style art around here? Anybody here catch that? All I understood was 'very'.
Shryke Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 where's Aimo or Eisu when you need them?! when your mind works against you - fight back with substance abuse!
Walsingham Posted July 26, 2008 Posted July 26, 2008 Never underestimate the power of a reckless imagination! "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Musopticon? Posted July 27, 2008 Posted July 27, 2008 Hamlet is better if you imagine them in mechs. Seriously. Sig quote time! kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
Walsingham Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 Well, the "Too too solid flesh" soliloquoy becomes almost a speech on war, if you imagine him doing it while walking patrol in a massive killer robot. EDIT: Known to the rest of the human race as the "To be or not to be" soliloquoy Further edit: I've just checked the soliloquoy in question and I'm talking rubbish. It's not the too too solid flesh one, and neither are to do with war in the slightest. However, reading it did make me wonder: If death is so bad, and live so good, why do so few come back? "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
I want teh kotor 3 Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) Well, the "Too too solid flesh" soliloquoy becomes almost a speech on war, if you imagine him doing it while walking patrol in a massive killer robot. That's going in my sig. Edited July 28, 2008 by I want teh kotor 3 In 7th grade, I teach the students how Chuck Norris took down the Roman Empire, so it is good that you are starting early on this curriculum. R.I.P. KOTOR 2003-2008 KILLED BY THOSE GREEDY MONEY-HOARDING ************* AND THEIR *****-*** MMOS
Colrom Posted July 28, 2008 Posted July 28, 2008 I read lots of light stuff - like fantasy - about one or two books of that type a week - sometimes re-read them too. Here is the more interesting stuff: I recently finished Constantines Sword by James Carrol - Christianity and the Jews - a masterpiece of religious history - wonderfully sourced. In the Wake of the Plague by Norman F. Cantor - The Black Death - History slightly modified to enhance 2002 terror themes regarding anthrax - presumably to aid in rationalizing the then forthcoming invasion of Iraq. This book is interesting in part for the way in which the history is put in a new perspective and new themes with current resonances are added with very little apparant substance to support them. There are no real footnotes. A non expert will not be able to evaluate or persue points. I'm currently reading: Bible and Sword by Barbara W. Tuchman - England and Palestine from the Bronze Age to Balfour. I think I love Barbara Tuchman. I have read a bunch of her stuff. She is a great historian and a wonderful writer. The Great Influenza by John M. Barry - The 1918 Influenza Epidemic. Starts out discussing the history of medicine in the same way that "The Building of the Bomb" discusses the history of physics and nuclear chemistry. On deck are: Havana Nocturne by T. J. English - How the mob owned Cuba and lost it to the revolution. For me this links to the book "Nazis in Newark" about the US Nazi movement in New Jersey in the 1930s and how the American Jews and some German-Americans others fought against them. Meyer Lanski (Murder Incorporated) was part of the anti-Nazi movement around Newark New Jersey and New York City. (Here's a review of sorts of Nazis in Newark: Michael Alexander - Nazis in Newark (review) - Jewish Quarterly Review 95:2 Jewish Quarterly Review 95.2 (2005) 418-419 Warren Grover. Nazis in Newark. New Brunswick, N.J.: Transaction Publishers, 2003. Pp. xvi + 380. Nazis in Newark is a model local history that reaches well beyond the border of Essex County, New Jersey, to the national and international arenas. By recounting so many sides of the complicated encounter between Nazis and Jews in Newark, Warren Grover has fashioned a world of street politics, boycotts, Nazi louts, and Jewish bruisers that is as compelling and telling in its detail as any grand tome on the supposed failures and successes of American Jewish resistance to the... ) Next on deck is: The Good Rat by Jimmy Breslin - This is about the mob and criminals As dark is the absence of light, so evil is the absence of good. If you would destroy evil, do good. Evil cannot be perfected. Thank God.
Tigranes Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Constantines Sword by James Carrol - Christianity and the Jews - a masterpiece of religious history - wonderfully sourced. Sounds interesting - just checked it out on amazon. What kind of writing is it? Historical fictional narrative? History-book style? Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
Colrom Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 (edited) Constantines Sword by James Carrol - Christianity and the Jews - a masterpiece of religious history - wonderfully sourced. Sounds interesting - just checked it out on amazon. What kind of writing is it? Historical fictional narrative? History-book style? The book traces the development of the religious beliefs and behaviors that led to the Holocaust and the erecting of a large cross at Auschwitz. The ideas of important secular-religious figures and institutions are presented - people such as Jesus, Paul, Constantine, Ambrose, Augustine, Anselm, Abelard and Heloise, Thomas Aquinas, Voltaire, the Popes, the Kings, Luther, Alfred Dreyfus and LaCroix, and so on. Some of these represent missed opportunities to do better. There is some discussion of Jewish religious thought and figures. The book does have a narrative aspect as well. Carrol presents the history as an illumination of his own personal religious journey. It is a very good read. Edited July 29, 2008 by Colrom As dark is the absence of light, so evil is the absence of good. If you would destroy evil, do good. Evil cannot be perfected. Thank God.
Walsingham Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Constantines Sword by James Carrol - Christianity and the Jews - a masterpiece of religious history - wonderfully sourced. Sounds interesting - just checked it out on amazon. What kind of writing is it? Historical fictional narrative? History-book style? The book traces the development of the religious beliefs and behaviors that led to the Holocaust and the erecting of a large cross at Auschwitz. The ideas of important secular-religious figures and institutions are presented - people such as Jesus, Paul, Constantine, Ambrose, Augustine, Anselm, Abelard and Heloise, Thomas Aquinas, Voltaire, the Popes, the Kings, Luther, Alfred Dreyfus and LaCroix, and so on. Some of these represent missed opportunities to do better. There is some discussion of Jewish religious thought and figures. The book does have a narrative aspect as well. Carrol presents the history as an illumination of his own personal religious journey. It is a very good read. That does sound interesting. Maybe I'll ask for it for Christmas. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Enoch Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 I've finally gotten around to reading Michael Chabon's The Yiddish Policeman's Union. About halfway through now. (By the way, thanks to Pop for his endorsement of the novel way back in this thread's early pages.) Chabon's prose is eternally surprising and inventive. And he's clearly having fun playing around with the detective fiction genre here, although in a fascinatingly creative alternative-history setting (short version: Isreal lost the 1948 war, and the American government created a federal district in the Alaskan panhandle to be a temporary homeland for the Jews; the story takes place in the weeks before this territory reverts back to Alaskan control).
Tigranes Posted July 29, 2008 Posted July 29, 2008 Thanks for the teaser Colrom, definitely going on my to-read list then. Probably after thesis, meaning October, though. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress)
LadyCrimson Posted July 30, 2008 Posted July 30, 2008 A lot of short stories by Richard Matheson, the guy who wrote "I Am Legend" - which I also read, since it was part of the three story collections of his I bought. I didn't like I Am Legend all that much - and it's not because I loved the movie more, because I didn't - I think for me it's that I feel his writing style is more suited to the short story vs. longer ones. His style feels very sparse and a bit abrupt, which isn't enough to completely suck me in over a long haul. But those short stories - they were all kinds of awesome. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts
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