Jediphile Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I think my system is doing a number on me, because it won't let me initialize Zonealarm properly on start-up anymore, and it won't let me reinstall it either... So farewell to it. What can I use instead, if I'm too much of a cheapskate to pay a single penny? Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirottu Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I have Sygate. This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I think my system is doing a number on me, because it won't let me initialize Zonealarm properly on start-up anymore, and it won't let me reinstall it either... So farewell to it. What can I use instead, if I'm too much of a cheapskate to pay a single penny? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Like... legally free? The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Good question, because last time I checked Zonealarm wasn't freeware. There are none that are right, only strong of opinion. There are none that are wrong, only ignorant of facts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted June 28, 2006 Author Share Posted June 28, 2006 I have Sygate. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> So did I, but they closed the support for it when someone bought the company (Symantic, I think). A damn shame too. That was a good program Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted June 28, 2006 Author Share Posted June 28, 2006 Good question, because last time I checked Zonealarm wasn't freeware. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No, it's not freeware, but you can download and use it without paying link Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Not paying for a decent Firewall is like inviting some guy in who offers to clean your house for free. It's a bad idea. But I have a router, and that coupled with Windows firewall is pretty decent coverage. I still have Norton Anti-Virus if the bleep hits the fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krookie Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I use Norton too, but I'm pretty sure it came with my computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atreides Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Norton 2006 is a bit too aggressive for my taste. It updates and installs components that I don't need. 2005 was perfect in my opinion. Spreading beauty with my katana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Not paying for a decent Firewall is like inviting some guy in who offers to clean your house for free. It's a bad idea. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> zonealarm has enough of a reputation that this would not be bad. in general, however, i agree. i think the non-free version of ZA, btw, is just more powerful with added features. i used to use it, but i got a router, too, and a software firewall is no longer a requirement. if you want cheap, go with mcafee. i had good results with it. mark comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 norton is, in general, a resource hog. it probably works better than any, but the cost in aggravation is too high for my tastes. mark comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Not paying for a decent Firewall is like inviting some guy in who offers to clean your house for free. It's a bad idea. But I have a router, and that coupled with Windows firewall is pretty decent coverage. I still have Norton Anti-Virus if the bleep hits the fan. You can always kidnap a guy and force him to work for you. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Hardware firewalls are the best. Windows XPSP2 is okay, but I wouldn't trust it. I have just purchased System Mechanic Professional v.6 (for OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I don't even use a firewall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atreides Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Actually I meant McAfee 2006. Spreading beauty with my katana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted June 28, 2006 Author Share Posted June 28, 2006 (edited) McAfee is anti-virus, not a firewall, isn't it? Anyway, it is limited in duration if free (and actually if you pay too...), so I don't use it. For free anti-virus with endless updates and no deadline in sight (so far - it says there is one but keeps pushing it whenever I get within three months of it...), I use anti-vir, which I believe is a german program, but then who cares - a professional computer geek adviced to me a few years back, and I've never had problems with it. http://www.free-av.com/ As for the reasoning behind not trusting such a program, I don't agree with it. After all, it's in everyone else's interest that I don't spread vira or other stuff around, so giving me a free program that doesn't work is a very bad idea, unless they want to spread the very vira they claim to fight. I've never had to pay for firewalls or anti-virus, and I don't intend to either. The same goes for anti-spyware programs, where I use both Spybot and Ad-Aware. Edited June 28, 2006 by Jediphile Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I use Zone Alarm and my ISP's own firewall. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 (edited) McAfee is anti-virus, not a firewall, isn't it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> they have everything. they just happen to be better known for their anti-virus software. i do not believe zonealarm is limited duration, though you have to put up with ads, as i recall. alanschu - you are playing with fire not running a firewall. you probably get 100 or more back-door attempts to access your system if you are on any type of always-on connection, i.e. cable modem, DSL, etc. when i first got mine, i watched the logs that night. unbelievable. of course, if you're on a dialup, it's not that big of a deal. adaware and spybot are good for trackers and webbugs and clean up associated cookies, but they don't stop the attack. neither can prevent a hacker from giving you a trojan nor find a true virus. edit: yes, i realize you were speaking about spyware in particular, just noting the obvious. personally, i run adaware rather often. taks Edited June 28, 2006 by taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I don't even use a firewall. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Me neither. Too much of a hassle. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Not only can it be a hassle, but I find it to be overrated. I see posts of people on teh internets that talk about how they have to take their firewall down for a few minutes, and sure enough there's some guy trying to attack their system. Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pidesco Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Not only can it be a hassle, but I find it to be overrated. I see posts of people on teh internets that talk about how they have to take their firewall down for a few minutes, and sure enough there's some guy trying to attack their system. Meh. I take down the firewall for a few minutes and all hell breaks loose on my system. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 alanschu - you are playing with fire not running a firewall. you probably get 100 or more back-door attempts to access your system if you are on any type of always-on connection, i.e. cable modem, DSL, etc. when i first got mine, i watched the logs that night. unbelievable. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> But was that 100 certified attempts to break in or was it simply 100 instances of the firewall recieving data it did not recognise? If I log into my router and check the logs I get about one such warning every 2 minutes but that is just signals the ISP server and routers send to say hi and check if the connection works. The WinXP firewall should really be all you need unless you want to be able to precisely control what comes in and out of your computer, which most programs aimed at the common user (zonealarm etc.) dont do. It also you requires you to know a great deal about TCP/IP and other protocols to be able to interpret the information you get. DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamond Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 Firewall is not a silver bullet. Sure it rules out some types of malware, but the majority of threats won't be stopped by firewall (I agree with alanschu, firewalls are overrated). When I boot in Windows I don't run any antivirus software, I only use firewall of my router and never have had a single problem in 3 years. Also, much of malware rely on the fact that user has administrative privileges (which is often the case!). So all you need to be safe is a basic firewall, turning off administrative priviliges of your account, following good security practices, and having some common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taks Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 But was that 100 certified attempts to break in or was it simply 100 instances of the firewall recieving data it did not recognise? If I log into my router and check the logs I get about one such warning every 2 minutes but that is just signals the ISP server and routers send to say hi and check if the connection works. about half and half, and it was actually just from that evening, not a whole day (got it installed then checked later that night). originally, this was on the time warner network in florida. i have not checked recently with adelphia. granted, ISPs such as adelphia and time warner may have also upgraded their systems since then to aid in the trojan rejection. taks comrade taks... just because. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 28, 2006 Share Posted June 28, 2006 I have been playing with fire for years now though :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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