DarthVala Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 I'm thinkin' Revan. He's just.....Revan. "Great intelligence usually goes hand in hand with great stupdity." Join The Sibilati! -Sibilati retrorsum sibilamus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi Brute Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 I think the Exile. You can go beyond the levels Revan can, and become twice as better at force powers/lightsaber duels. Revans Okay, but I like how the Exile was more your character, instead of a great hero. The Exile was just a normal knight/padawan, whereas Revan was a celebrity. Its hard to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Jedi Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 I like both in an equall maner, but, as Jedi Brute said, the Exile feels more like your own person. Нека Силата винаги бъде с теб! I reject your reality, and substitute it with my own. Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted. John Lenon This thread is a big "hey, f*** you!" to the humanity's intelligence. 571911[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 I like both in an equall maner, but, as Jedi Brute said, the Exile feels more like your own person. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed. Because while I like the strong plot of K2, the Exile has to be about the worst told PC ever. You're constantly wondering about his backstory, but you're never told and has to learn it as his companions learn it, which is fairly poor storytelling for the character I'm supposed to identify with. It's next to impossible to identify with the Exile when you don't know what he experienced on Malachor, don't know why he chose Exile, don't know his association with Bao-Dur when he suddenly turns up, etc. etc. etc... So I have to choose Revan. Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthReliguim Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 I think the Exile. You can go beyond the levels Revan can, and become twice as better at force powers/lightsaber duels. Revans Okay, but I like how the Exile was more your character, instead of a great hero. The Exile was just a normal knight/padawan, whereas Revan was a celebrity. Its hard to explain. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I argee with everything you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathScepter Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Revan is more well done character. Reading the Art of War by Sun Tzu and I did gain a better understanding of Revan. The Scary thing is The Philosophy of Sun Tzu and Revan is quite similar and I argee with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellypie Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 The Exile. Let's just put it this way: I started out playing Shayla Varn in K1 and ended playing Revan, ex Dark Lord of the Sith. I started out playing Isan Ilar in K2 and ended playing Isan Ilar. She stayed my character. "They might not call you a Jedi anymore, but believe me, you are. It's not the sort of thing that you just stop being. You're stuck with it, just like you're stuck being the General." ~Bao-Dur, Knights of the Old Republic: The Sith Lords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 The Exile. Let's just put it this way: I started out playing Shayla Varn in K1 and ended playing Revan, ex Dark Lord of the Sith. I started out playing Isan Ilar in K2 and ended playing Isan Ilar. She stayed my character. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wish I'd felt that way. You're right about Revan. He began being your character and ended up being Revan. The Exile, however, didn't begin as my character and never became it for the reason I stated previously K2 has great plot, but the characterization of the Exile as far as making me identify with him is just awful. Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathScepter Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 (edited) Revan has "no set" personality outside the prodgiy/military genius Edited April 23, 2006 by DeathScepter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Raven Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 Both are good. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the dude Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 revan had a better story words are weightless here on earth because they're free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rokor Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 i like the exile because like youve said earlier he can go and be more powerful than revan can :D COME SEE DRIVER 3 FORUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted April 23, 2006 Share Posted April 23, 2006 i like the exile because like youve said earlier he can go and be more powerful than revan can :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh dear - now you've done it!! [ducks for cover as Revan's angry fanboys swarm...] Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 this thread in about 20 posts. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathScepter Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 funny I like you. I go with this philosophy about Revan and Exile Revan: Batman Exile: Superman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturm Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 i like the exile because like youve said earlier he can go and be more powerful than revan can :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}> no not necisarrily, no one knows what revan is capable of, and no one has seen what he is capable of, we can only imagine and that also goes for the exile i prefer revan because he was someone to admire, he was a steriotypical hero, hes a rebel defies the will of the jedi council and goes and saves the galaxy he was a general, powerful, everyone loved him and there was mystery to what, who was under that mask and those garmets. he faught valiently and hes the savior of the republic, and then the him going down the darkside was shock to everyone and much mystery surrounded why, and then why malak fired upon him (yeah we know but to the people in the game, the jedi ect.) then the whole "revan is dead" theory, but then finally realising that you where him was amazing, the fact that you where playing as a sith lord and every step you took effected the history of the republic, cause either the downfall of it or to make it flourish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulgarian Jedi Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Gameplay wise. The Exile is the stronger one, for Revan can reach level 20, while the Exile has potential to reach level 50, mostly being around level 30. Story wise, they are probably equal, but no one knows. Нека Силата винаги бъде с теб! I reject your reality, and substitute it with my own. Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted. John Lenon This thread is a big "hey, f*** you!" to the humanity's intelligence. 571911[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Master Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 I'm thinkin' Revan. He's just.....Revan. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What??? Revan's Revan? I had no idea :D Seriously, it's Revan hands down. he's so much cooler Sanity is for the weak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnZ117 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Agreed. Because while I like the strong plot of K2, the Exile has to be about the worst told PC ever. You're constantly wondering about his backstory, but you're never told and has to learn it as his companions learn it, which is fairly poor storytelling for the character I'm supposed to identify with. It's next to impossible to identify with the Exile when you don't know what he experienced on Malachor, don't know why he chose Exile, don't know his association with Bao-Dur when he suddenly turns up, etc. etc. etc... So I have to choose Revan. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why would the Exile ask about his/her backstory if he/she already knows it? Personally I like that you are not told to much about the character because I like to make it up myself. The Exile comes across as a stronger person than Revan, imo, and not because of the whole level thing. He/she survived a horrific event that caused other Jedi to die or fall to the Dark Side. He/she came back to the Council when others were flocking to the rebuilt Sith. And he/she survived ten years severed from the Force in a galaxy at war or on the brink of ruin. Whatever you say about Revan, the Exile survived worse, and you have to respect that. P.S. The Exile also sounds much cooler than Revan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Architect Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) Why would the Exile ask about his/her backstory if he/she already knows it? Personally I like that you are not told to much about the character because I like to make it up myself. The Exile comes across as a stronger person than Revan, imo, and not because of the whole level thing. He/she survived a horrific event that caused other Jedi to die or fall to the Dark Side. He/she came back to the Council when others were flocking to the rebuilt Sith. And he/she survived ten years severed from the Force in a galaxy at war or on the brink of ruin. Whatever you say about Revan, the Exile survived worse, and you have to respect that. P.S. The Exile also sounds much cooler than Revan. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fully agreed. The Exile gets my vote. Besides, finding out about the Exile's backstory fully in K2 would have just been un-necessary, it's un-called for, what were told about the Exile, the things that 'JohnZ117 said', were the only things that were needed to know about the Exile's backstory, I think Obsidian did a wonderful job in this case scenario. Edited April 24, 2006 by The Architect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Revan rules over all. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellypie Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 (edited) Why would the Exile ask about his/her backstory if he/she already knows it? Personally I like that you are not told to much about the character because I like to make it up myself. Yep. This is exactly why I like the Exile more. Because the personality traits, things in her background that I gave her, her history, aside from that that was given, was mine to do what I wanted with. And stayed that way. I did the same thing in K1, but because the main character turned out to be Revan my back story for her didn't amount to squat. <_< This is also why I love the Neverwinter Nights expansion pack Hordes of the Underdark. The ability to completely make your character what you want him/her to be. The only things that are given is the you are the hero of Undrentide and that you trained with a dwarven wizard/cleric named Drogan. Race, gender, class, alignment, background, family etc. are all at my command, not the devs. Edited April 24, 2006 by Mellypie "They might not call you a Jedi anymore, but believe me, you are. It's not the sort of thing that you just stop being. You're stuck with it, just like you're stuck being the General." ~Bao-Dur, Knights of the Old Republic: The Sith Lords Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jediphile Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Why would the Exile ask about his/her backstory if he/she already knows it? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That's fine, but if I'm playing the Exile, then I must know it as a player, and I didn't. That makes it next to impossible to identify with *my* character. Personally I like that you are not told to much about the character because I like to make it up myself. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Agreed, but so much of the Exile's backstory becomes vital during the game, and since I'm playing him, I shouldn't have to find out about it when Kreia throws Atton a few bits of information on the subject or similar. If the Exile is my character, that's great, but then I *have* to know him - that's my right as a player! If I can't do that, then let me play someone else. Otherwise it's just false to say that he's not amnesic. He may not, but it hardly matters... The Exile comes across as a stronger person than Revan, imo, and not because of the whole level thing. He/she survived a horrific event that caused other Jedi to die or fall to the Dark Side. He/she came back to the Council when others were flocking to the rebuilt Sith. And he/she survived ten years severed from the Force in a galaxy at war or on the brink of ruin. Whatever you say about Revan, the Exile survived worse, and you have to respect that. P.S. The Exile also sounds much cooler than Revan. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think they've both seen terrible things, but I actually consider LS Revan to be the most troubled character, since he has to live with the knowledge of having killed or corrupted so many jedi and caused so much death... I assume that's why he left to fight the true Sith alone - to atone for all the horrible things he's done. Visit my KotOR blog at Deadly Forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverPowered Godzilla (OPG) Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 The Exile is far more powerful. Keia even said he was greater than any she has ever trained. The exile can learn a jedis abilities just from fighting them and he can gain those powers. He also has WAY BETTER and WAY MORE powers. It was even stated in the game since he was cut off from the force he could do things no jedi could do. Come on guys. It's called FORCE CRUSH! Exile wins this so easy. There is NO point in the story that says Revan is the most powerful but it does state the exile is morep owerful than he is. The exile even defeated Revans trainer and the immortal Darth Sion. Duh, "Sidious was strongest sith lord in his time" my ass, he was the only sith lord - Xard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Yep. This is exactly why I like the Exile more. Because the personality traits, things in her background that I gave her, her history, aside from that that was given, was mine to do what I wanted with. And stayed that way. I did the same thing in K1, but because the main character turned out to be Revan my back story for her didn't amount to squat. <_< This is also why I love the Neverwinter Nights expansion pack Hordes of the Underdark. The ability to completely make your character what you want him/her to be. The only things that are given is the you are the hero of Undrentide and that you trained with a dwarven wizard/cleric named Drogan. Race, gender, class, alignment, background, family etc. are all at my command, not the devs. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Same. Well at least until chapter III anyway. I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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