Classical music and Jazz: dead?

[Lyric Suite]

Can anybody explain to me what is deal?

 

It seems that no matter where you look popular music is the only thing you'll ever find.

 

Indeed, as far back as i can remember, i have never met or even heard of anybody who was ever interested in classical music, be it in school or any where else.

 

The internet is my only hope and even then a lot of classical music fans you can find are just pousers of the Tori Amos kind, New Age lunatics, or sometimes people who are into both popular music as well as western music but only see the latter through the standards set by the first.

 

Jazz is just as dead, but i'm European, perhaps Americans have it better on that front.

 

It's a matter of fact, popular culture has a whole has pretty much replaced the entire history of western art spanning back to ancient greece, but of all things music seems to have it the worst.

 

Aside for the few decent sites devoted to western music (where the majority of the people are not of my age group and are not easy to relate to), talking about music with others makes me feel like i'm some sort of wierd alien.

Edited March 22, 2006 by Lyric Suite

[Cantousent]

Let's wait for a couple hundred years and see if the classics from bygone days, of any genre, are actually dead and replaced by the mass of music created in this age.

 

There are tons of great songs in our age, but folks will play Bach when the vast majority of today's songs are long forgotten.

[Krookie]

Classical music has always been relaxing, but I find it extreamly boring to listen to unless I want to listen to it. My mother often plays some before she goes to bed.

[Stewdawg24]

My wife is a classical musician so I'm constantly surrounded by the music of the past Masters. In fact she is currently working on her Doctorate in Performance at a conservatory so we are fortunate to be able to attend recitals and concerts every weekend. This past weekend we were in New York and saw the New York Phil perform Tchaikovsky 5th along with several Chamber pieces by Poulenc.

[baby arm]

There's quite a few major classical venues within an hour of me that have very busy schedules and large audiences. My favorite is probably the Orange County Performing Arts Center. And there's at least a dozen active jazz clubs. If you ever find yourself in Southern California, tune in to 88.1 for jazz and blues all day long and find out about upcoming gigs.

 

Maybe you just live in a crappy area. Or maybe you aren't digging enough to find the local jazz and classical communities. They're probably around, just not as obvious as other scenes. Afterall, what does a jazz fan look like?

[Atreides]

There's orchestras playing and channels devoted to classical. Most musical students are trained in it too at least initially.

[thepixiesrock]

Well, to answer the initial question of why it is not seen as much, is because classical music evolved in to other forms of music, and that was the new fad, and then that music evolved into Jazz and Blues, and then jazz and blues evolved into rock and pop, and then that rock and pop evolved into what we have today. As the music evolves into something different, so do the people, because they grow up all their lives listening to what their parents listen to until one day they find something different. The rebel by listening to the new music of the time.

 

I listen to jazz, but not so much classical. I think the reason for me at least to not listen to classical is because I study it in school, and it is kind of predictable when I hear it. I still like it, I just don't listen to it as much.

[Dark_Raven]

Classical music is alive and well. All you need to do is listen to the wonderful music from movie soundtrack scores. John Williams, Howard Shore, Wojciech Kilar, Basil Poledouris and Jerry Goldsmith to name a few composers who have written great sounding classical music in our era.

[Musopticon?]

^Don't go that route. You'd have to be actually interested in the movies to like the soundtracks. Unless it's James Horner.

[Laozi]

^^Double true, unless you're really into Romantic Era incidential music those composers probaly wouldn't hold much appeal to you.

 

 

As far as Jazz goes any night of the week you can see a show in Austin at the Elephant Room, and some nights at the Mercury when they're not having hip-hop night or whatever. I would imagine the same would be true of any large European city. Most modern jazz musician simply have to tour in Europe to make a living now days.

 

If you really enjoy both these styles of music then I would really recomend that you pick up an instrument, or take a music appreciation class. Either way will expose you to intricacies of the genres and more then likely bring you in close contact with others who appreciate the music as well.

[Darth Drabek]

Hell, many major American markets don't even have an alternative rock station anymore. But I'll stay on topic, and the topic is why classical and jazz music is tough to find these days.

 

In my experience, classical and jazz were nowhere to be found until I went to college. Unless you live in an area that's jam-packed with people who care about art, you're not going to find those forms of music around. I don't know if that is exactly a change, in fact I would think it would be normal.

 

I can get a CBC station from across the Great Lakes that plays classical music during the day. Besides that, I've got one high-powered Top 40 station, a handful of classic rock stations that all play Ted Nugent WAY too much, and few stations with the polished crap coming out of Nashville these days.

 

I don't rely on the radio for musical enlightenment anymore. I prefer other avenues.

[thepixiesrock]

I think what Lyric Suite meant was that it isn't in the mainstream popular culture.

[metadigital]

Just get out more.

[Laozi]

Besides that, I've got one high-powered Top 40 station, a handful of classic rock stations that all play Ted Nugent WAY too much, and few stations with the polished crap coming out of Nashville these days.

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Dude, Ted Nugent, dude. :cool:

[Meshugger]

Classical music is something that exists in every household where i've been. There's always a cd-compilation called something in the vein of "Great Classics", with Mozart, Bach, Beethoven, Haydn, Sibelius and so on in everybodys cd-library (I'm guilty of this myself).

 

Jazz on the other hand, i've always had a bad experience with. In most of my listenings, it's composed of complex diffirent interludes, mixed together to resemble a melody. The drummer drums in polyrythms, while interesting approach, it cripples the song-structure IMO. Not to mention the lyrics, yuck!

 

I would be glad if Lyric Suite would provide some tips of Jazz-bands that don't do music for the sake of being technical.

[Jorian Drake]

My favorites are 'classicals'.

1.Liszt

2.Mozart

3.Beethoven

 

ect.

 

But I also listen to Jazz, Pop, Metal and such

[metadigital]

See? If Jorian, in the corner of no and where, has a library of classical music, then it begs the question just where you live ...

[Jorian Drake]

See? If Jorian, in the corner of no and where, has a library of classical music, then it begs the question just where you live ...

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Me?

And what do you mean with "in the corner of no and where"?

[metadigital]

Nothing. "

[Jorian Drake]

Nothing. "

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I really need to improve my english to know when someone insults me <_<

[Gabrielle]

See? If Jorian, in the corner of no and where, has a library of classical music, then it begs the question just where you live ...

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Me?

And what do you mean with "in the corner of no and where"?

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It means you live in the hind end of space that nobody cares about, much less heard about.

[Jorian Drake]

See? If Jorian, in the corner of no and where, has a library of classical music, then it begs the question just where you live ...

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Me?

And what do you mean with "in the corner of no and where"?

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It means you live in the hind end of space that nobody cares about, much less heard about.

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Thanks for explaining it.

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Edited March 22, 2006 by jorian

[Baley]

Ya, this Digital dude has been like the worst moderator EVAR, Jorian for Mod 2006!

[Gabrielle]

Hell no. I would rather see Pixies as a mod before Jorian. At least he's topical and witty. Am I right fellas, I mean am I right?

[Baley]

Jorian FTW!!!