stalwart149 Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) I've gone through KoTOR 2 twice now--once trying to max light side, once trying to max dark side--and started playing through a third time, trying to stay perfectly neutral. Everything seemed to be going fine until now. I don't know if there is just some plot trigger I am forgetting, but I can't get any further in the game. My alignment is dead center right now--exactly equal to Kreia's. My character is a level 23 Sentinel--no prestige class, since you have to have Dark or Light side to trigger it. I've already: -Freed Vrook and resolved the mercenary problem on Dantooine (siding with the colonists against the mercs) -Resolved the civil war on Onderon (siding with the Queen) -Completed everything on Koriban except the cave that can't be entered unless you are heavily Dark or Light side -Finished everything on Nar Shada that I can access, but for some reason the Exchange will not ask me to meet with them, even though I have done everything I can to piss them off, including killing the local exchange boss Anyone know what I'm missing? Or is this a bug maybe? Edited December 3, 2005 by stalwart149 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkAngle Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 I've gone through KoTOR 2 twice now--once trying to max light side, once trying to max dark side--and started playing through a third time, trying to stay perfectly nuetral. Everything seemed to be going fine until now. I don't know if there is just some plot trigger I am forgetting, but I can't get any further in the game. My alignment is dead center right now--exactly equal to Kreia's. My character is a level 23 Sentinel--no prestige class, since you have to have Dark or Light side to trigger it. I've already: -Freed Vrook and resolved the mercenary problem on Dantooine (siding with the colonists against the mercs) -Resolved the civil war on Onderon (siding with the Queen) -Completed everything on Koriban except the cave that can't be entered unless you are heavily Dark or Light side -Finished everything on Nar Shada that I can access, but for some reason the Exchange will not ask me to meet with them, even though I have done everything I can to piss them off, including killing the local exchange boss Anyone know what I'm missing? Or is this a bug maybe? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> When you say stuck, how are you stuck? I have done it before. Its not as fun as either light or dark, but it is do able. (Marine Axiom) Sweat Dries Blood Clots Bones Heal SUCK IT UP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalwart149 Posted December 3, 2005 Author Share Posted December 3, 2005 (edited) When you say stuck, how are you stuck? I have done it before. Its not as fun as either light or dark, but it is do able. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, what I mean is, I fly from planet to planet, but nothing more seems to be changeable in the game world. I seem to have exhausted all NPC dialog, and entered all areas that are open to me. I guess the biggest things that jump out at me as being a problem are that I can't find the Jedi on Nar Shadda, Mira and Hanharr never appear, The Crimson somethingorother pirates never come and complain about my using their landing spot in the refugee landing pad, and the Exchange never sends me a message to meet with them in the Jek-Jek Tarr. Edited December 3, 2005 by stalwart149 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleCookiee Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 You used the speeder on Nar Shaaddaa? Walk to the Refuge sector... Then get out again...Walking... Enjoy the fight with the Red Eclipse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalwart149 Posted December 3, 2005 Author Share Posted December 3, 2005 You used the speeder on Nar Shaaddaa? Walk to the Refuge sector... Then get out again...Walking... Enjoy the fight with the Red Eclipse <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmmmmmmm. You know, I did use the speeder on Nar Shaaddaa. I'm gonna go try that. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveThaiBinh Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 I guess the biggest things that jump out at me as being a problem are that I can't find the Jedi on Nar Shadda, Mira and Hanharr never appear, The Crimson somethingorother pirates never come and complain about my using their landing spot in the refugee landing pad, and the Exchange never sends me a message to meet with them in the Jek-Jek Tarr. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You mean Mira never appears at all? Even to talk to the information guy near the Ebon Hawk? Then you have a problem, and probably need to reload, if you can. The Red Eclipse (quite different to the Crimson Permanent Assurance) should appear the first time you return from the refugee sector to the Ebon Hawk area, so again, if that didn't happen, you have a problem. Some people run into trouble because they please and annoy the Exchange in equal measure (either deliberately or by just not thinking about it) and so the invitation never comes. I think you can still get past this by completing all possible sidequests that the Exchange may care about, and a gamefaq could help you find this - some are a little obscure. "An electric puddle is not what I need right now." (Nina Kalenkov) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unabomber Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 Yes, you can complete the game as a grey Jedi. You just won't get the prestige classes, or the mastery bonuses, unless you got them before you made your neutrality push. You need to trigger the fight with the Red Eclipse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattleCookiee Posted December 3, 2005 Share Posted December 3, 2005 If you are dark you get Hanharr... If you are light/neutral you get Mira... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stalwart149 Posted December 3, 2005 Author Share Posted December 3, 2005 It was definitely the speeder issue. I went on foot to the door of the refugee sector--didn't even have to enter the zone--and the trigger was flipped. After that, the Red Eclipse scene went down, and the message came to meet in the Jek-Jek Tarr, as normal. Thanks! I'm finding the game is a touch more challenging as a gray. It's hard to always choose the options to stay exactly centered, and my character is noticeably weaker without the prestige class bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoNgA Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 You used the speeder on Nar Shaaddaa? Walk to the Refuge sector... Then get out again...Walking... Enjoy the fight with the Red Eclipse <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've never used the speeder.. is that a problem?? i tryed to fix it, but i wasnt allowed to fly it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I've never used the speeder.. is that a problem?? i tryed to fix it, but i wasnt allowed to fly it <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes it skips a trigger for an event which is why you have to walk. If you have all the parts you can use it to get around without having to go through the central hub. I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoNgA Posted December 9, 2005 Share Posted December 9, 2005 I've never used the speeder.. is that a problem?? i tryed to fix it, but i wasnt allowed to fly it <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes it skips a trigger for an event which is why you have to walk. If you have all the parts you can use it to get around without having to go through the central hub. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That sounds good thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 The speeder is rather useless. It breaks once the main quests are done on Nar Shadaa. I miss K1's teleport back to the ship option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laozi Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Its impossible to win playing this game People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassidy Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 ^ I have "won" the game over a dozen times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalfear Posted December 10, 2005 Share Posted December 10, 2005 Ive won as grey as well Mira will be the default character if your TRUE neutral (as shes the main character of the two) so your alignment isnt whats holding you back there. Just double and triple check the remaining nar shaddar stuff as you obviously missed some and thats why your stuck. Kalfear Disco and Dragons Avatar Enlarged Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
destructive Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 The speeder is rather useless. It breaks once the main quests are done on Nar Shadaa. I miss K1's teleport back to the ship option. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I miss that too. It's enoying that you have to run around for a long time to get to the ship. Especially on Nar Shaddaa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I miss that option from K1. Sometimes I feel like being lazy and would rather take the easy way back to the ship than walk all the way back. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted December 21, 2005 Share Posted December 21, 2005 I like not having that option. It makes things more challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth_Onivega Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 does neutral have a ending of its own? hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starwarskid15_19 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 not that i know of, as far as i know the only thing that affects which ending you get is if you killed the council or not. the force is what gives a jedi his power. its an energy field created by all living things. it surrounds us and penetrates us. it binds the galaxy together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indev Noor Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 It was definitely the speeder issue. I went on foot to the door of the refugee sector--didn't even have to enter the zone--and the trigger was flipped. After that, the Red Eclipse scene went down, and the message came to meet in the Jek-Jek Tarr, as normal. Thanks! I'm finding the game is a touch more challenging as a gray. It's hard to always choose the options to stay exactly centered, and my character is noticeably weaker without the prestige class bonuses. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've only finished the game once, as a neutral guardian. I have no basis for comparison but it certainly was not difficult. As for decision making, I went with whatever I personally thought best.. unfortunately such did not obtain me my prestige class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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