Judge Hades Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Good ideas alone does not make good games. I think that is one of the lessons learned by Troika's failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surreptishus Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Some BL bugs - crash to desktop, stuttering, graphical weirdness - people's legs moving too fast, horrible loading times. I've experienced all those personally and they seem to be common issues. TBH mine are most probably caused by my really decrepit graphics card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 The only bug I really experienced(apart from crashes to desktop) was the slowing down. But I bet everyone had that 'cos of memory leakage. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumjalum Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I wonder who was responsible for casting and directing of the voice actors. The game had the best voice acting of any game I've ever played :cool: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Here's hoping Obsidian have a decent voice budget for NWN2, the first NWN didn't have the best VO imo. We now bring you live footage from the World Championship Staring Final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I still can't understand the use of 'imo' or 'imho'. Why do you need it? People can easily see it's an opinion from the context. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyric Suite Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I still can't understand the use of 'imo' or 'imho'. Why do you need it? People can easily see it's an opinion from the context. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's to prevent people from rebutting : 'but that's just your opinion...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 So that way the relevant message becomes foolproof? I got it. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 NWN has great voice overs. However, to keep on topic, BL's was better overall. Then again, BL has some of the best voice overs in any game. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oerwinde Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Seriously, can someone give me some examples of all these bugs you keep mentioning. Well, one major one I encountered was that several quests became unfinishable because everything in my haven turned into a couch. Computer, chairs, table, lamps, etc. Other than that mostly horrible graphics glitches like the screen going all wavy and crazy colored around the beach and stuff like that. A lot of the crazy buggy games people complain about, I don't even notice the bugs, this one I did. I didn't really notice any of the bugs in ToEE. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 Well, one major one I encountered was that several quests became unfinishable because everything in my haven turned into a couch. Computer, chairs, table, lamps, etc. Other than that mostly horrible graphics glitches like the screen going all wavy and crazy colored around the beach and stuff like that. A lot of the crazy buggy games people complain about, I don't even notice the bugs, this one I did. I didn't really notice any of the bugs in ToEE. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for the insight. I usually don't notice minor bugs either, if it doesn't crash the game or break a quest I'm not terribly observant. I experienced nothing like what you described in Bloodlines but instead had my share of bugs in ToEE (like the mosters spawning inside walls bug for instance). It just goes to show that your mileage may vary. And how hopeless it must be working in QA for PC RPGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calax Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 I Just bounce with glee because they got Phil LaMarr to do voices in that game Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 NWN has great voice overs. However, to keep on topic, BL's was better overall. Then again, BL has some of the best voice overs in any game. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bloodlines had the best of any game that I played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I wouldn't say the best game, but up there in top-15, yes. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoM_Solaufein Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 Voice acting in a game? Bloodlines by far. If the good old BG and IWD games had voiced every line than BG2 would be the best. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I still can't understand the use of 'imo' or 'imho'. Why do you need it? People can easily see it's an opinion from the context. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> It's to prevent people from rebutting : 'but that's just your opinion...' <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ... but that's just your opinion. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted November 18, 2005 Share Posted November 18, 2005 I wouldn't say the best game, but up there in top-15, yes. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which ones do you like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yst Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Bloodlines combines all my favourite ideas from the RPGs of the past five years and packages them in a fun and highly immersive bundle of gaming joy. It's also the first game I've ever found myself replaying solely for the sake of hacking it. That is to say, playing around just getting ideas to modify some given things in some particular interesting or screwy way as I go along and trying them out, finding a way to make strange things happen. The combination of the Source engine and Troika's own fairly intuitive scripting makes it pretty easy to toy with. You can do essentially everything from the console save for introduce new content. Fun stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabrielle Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Bloodlines had lots of neat things I like as in vampires, good story, good voice acting, great character creation, sound track and characterrs that you meet. A great game which i can't say enough on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 I guess I should play this game (especially as the price has dropped to c. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krookie Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Brothers In Arms: Earned in Blood has some great voice acting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illunder Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 I guess I should play this game (especially as the price has dropped to c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wynne Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 More importantly, he designed the Ocean House Hotel level, one of the best game levels I've ever played. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The hilarious and perfectly spot-on Malk dialogue was a million times more significant--at least, if you've had the pleasure of playing Thief 3's Shalebridge Cradle, which dwarfs all other scary levels ever, even the ones in the excellent Silent Hill series. But I digress. Bloodlines is one of my favorite games. I have played it around 9 times at least, and I still don't feel sick of it. I've moderated an online RPG based on the Bloodlines setting for a year now. That's how fanatically I love this game, even though I agree 100% with Oerwinde--too much combat-pandering and weak technical chops. It's impossible to play as a REAL Toreador (i.e. use Presence to turn the tide, as opposed to pumping up a combat stat all the way and juicing your physical attributes.) A wistful little part of me will always wish there'd be a sequel. But at least Obsidian got some of these talented people on board. *crosses fingers for KOTOR 3* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meshugger Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 Bloodlines was a great RPG with great story, voiceacting and dialogue. Too bad there was atleast one gamestopping bug and the combat was horrid. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musopticon? Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 I wouldn't say the best game, but up there in top-15, yes. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which ones do you like? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Humm, the Thief Trilogy, Mafia, Rune, Outcast, BG 2, IWD 2, Gothic, The Avernum Trilogy, Bloodlines, Golden Eye and Broken Sword. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Posted November 19, 2005 Share Posted November 19, 2005 The hilarious and perfectly spot-on Malk dialogue was a million times more significant--at least, if you've had the pleasure of playing Thief 3's Shalebridge Cradle, which dwarfs all other scary levels ever, even the ones in the excellent Silent Hill series. But I digress. I haven't played Thief 3 so I wouldn't know. But I'm just not that impressed with the Malk-dialogue. It's fun at first (and the stop sign and anchorman dialogues are hilarious) but after a while the novelty wears off. Besides, it's hardly groundbreaking, it's very much the same as the stupid dialogues present in Fallout 1&2 and Arcanum. (The malk-dialogue was well written and great fun though, I'm not disputing that) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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