Darth_Schmarth Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Well? ^Asinus asinorum in saecula saeculorum
Kor Qel Droma Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 It was Han. Jaguars4ever is still alive. No word of a lie.
Child of Flame Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 (edited) You're all wrong. The Truth is out there. Edited November 13, 2005 by Child of Flame
Cantousent Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Why is this such a big issue, anyhow? I keep seeing this Greedo non-sense. Can someone explain it or PM me or something? Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
Child of Flame Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 In the original cut of A New Hope, Han shoots at Greedo, a known bounty hunter, first, thus establishing that he is not a total numbskull and has a rougish sense of survival. In the Special Edition, GL had decided that Han shouldn't shoot first because 'he's the good guy' instead letting a known bounty hunter walk right up to him, while he has a bounty on his head, and take the first shot, thus making everyone wonder how the hell Han survived as long as he did as smuggler if he's so freaking dumb.
Bulgarian Jedi Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 The truth is that Obi-Wan did it. Нека Силата винаги бъде с теб! I reject your reality, and substitute it with my own. Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted. John Lenon This thread is a big "hey, f*** you!" to the humanity's intelligence. 571911[/snapback]
Atreides Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 In the Special Edition you still have Han unholstering his blaster and aiming at Greedo below the table so it's not as if he's clueless. Just a minor n00b. Spreading beauty with my katana.
Darth_Schmarth Posted November 13, 2005 Author Posted November 13, 2005 The truth is that Obi-Wan did it. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Seeing as Obi-Wan is a non-option in this poll, that is impossible. ^Asinus asinorum in saecula saeculorum
Cantousent Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Perhaps it's the poll that's flawed... Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
Darth_Schmarth Posted November 13, 2005 Author Posted November 13, 2005 Interesting theory, Eldar. Interesting but... flawed. ^Asinus asinorum in saecula saeculorum
Bulgarian Jedi Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Does shooting first make Han "bad"? If your life is at stake and you see an opotrunity to save yoursefl by killing the agressor, just do it. It is always like this-the good guy kills the bad guy. Anly a really juvenile geek can think that Han has to be a stereotypicall "goody-goody two shoes" that always does the "honorabe" thing( just like the Jedi ) and not shoot first in order to save his life. Нека Силата винаги бъде с теб! I reject your reality, and substitute it with my own. Time you enjoy wasting is not wasted. John Lenon This thread is a big "hey, f*** you!" to the humanity's intelligence. 571911[/snapback]
Walsingham Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Shooting first does not apply. The bounty hunter was clearly going to take Han's life. I'm not even sure that Greedo coudl have been that stupid. I reckon he had got tanked up and was intending to play a practical joke on Han. Or Mossad did it. "It wasn't lies. It was just... bull****"." -Elwood Blues tarna's dead; processing... complete. Disappointed by Universe. RIP Hades/Sand/etc. Here's hoping your next alt has a harp.
Musopticon? Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 The comedy option. Where is it? I'm disappointed. kirottu said: I was raised by polar bears. I had to fight against blood thirsty wolves and rabid penguins to get my food. Those who were too weak to survive were sent to Sweden. It has made me the man I am today. A man who craves furry hentai. So let us go and embrace the rustling smells of unseen worlds
Darth_Schmarth Posted November 13, 2005 Author Posted November 13, 2005 This is an issue far too serious for comedy options. ^Asinus asinorum in saecula saeculorum
Hell Kitty Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 (edited) I always thought people make too much of this change. Sure, it's lame, like replacing all guns in ET with walkie-talkies, but it's not like it changes the entire nature of Han Solo. Edited November 13, 2005 by Hell Kitty
CoM_Solaufein Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Han got the Job done. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is StrengthBaldur's Gate moddingTeamBGBaldur's Gate modder/community leaderBaldur's Gate - Enhanced Edition beta testerBaldur's Gate 2 - Enhanced Edition beta tester Icewind Dale - Enhanced Edition beta tester
metadigital Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 It is an interesting question with parallels in current international affairs and echoes in the accepted US neo-con policy of pre-emptive strike. Of course, there has always been a tacit acceptance (if not endorsement) of such a policy, so said policy was not the contraversial aspect; it was actually the codification of said policy so as to give it more credence and in fact empower it with extra power as a deterrent. OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT
WinterSun Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Thats easy for you to say... master of my domain Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo.
Cantousent Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 comedy, meta, total comedy. hehehe Okay, my take is that Han should have shot first, even if he didn't. My second take is that Greedo should have shot him from accross the bar. What I take from all this is that Princess Leia in the bikini is still the hottest star wars chic. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends!
tarna Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Pruned thread When I first watched this movie in the mid 70s ( yes I am that old. Let's not make too much of an issue of it eh? ), Han fired under the table as Greedo decided that Han was worth as much dead as alive. I hadn't realised that it had been changed. Ruminations... When a man has no Future, the Present passes too quickly to be assimilated and only the static Past has value.
x1Predator Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 I have the old star wars movies on tape in a trilogy box and Episode I on tape as well. Has anyone heard any news of a six pack DVD set containing ALL of the films? If money is the root of all evil.....why is the world not destroyed?
Bokishi Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Prolly when christmas comes. Current 3DMark
Gorth Posted November 13, 2005 Posted November 13, 2005 Despite G/L tampering with the evidence in best Anti-Trotsky style image manipulation, there are just too many surviving witnesses who saw the real version in 1977 (me included). Besides, if Greedo really had wanted Han dead, he was either too stupid or would have used a rifle and taken him out from a distance... Han was just a thug and a casual killer “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
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