jaguars4ever Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I really hope that Playstation 3 gets a better release day line-up than this.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> C'mon now mkreku - it's backgammon, baby, backgammon! Care to double the stakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hell Kitty Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 I thought Halo 3 was coming out on launch day as well. Not that I'm looking forward to it, since I never played the second one and only made it halfway through the original. But I thought Microsoft was making it a point to release H3 with the 360. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think MS are planning to release Halo 3 on the same day as the release of the PS3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkreku Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Not only is the release day line-up lacking in oomph power, but apparently all of the first generation of software on the Xbox 360 aren't multi threaded, if this rumour turns out to be true. That means they'll use ONE of three cores available on the CPU.. Not a good sign for the PS3 either, since it's supposed to be even worse to work with. Source: http://theinquirer.net/?article=27249 Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Here's what I don't get... folks complain that Oblivion won't be out on the day the 360 hits the shelves. Who cares? We know it's coming out soon afterwards. It's not like it's going to turn into vaporware. So it's not out the exact same day? So what? Furthermore, if there are titles for the Revolution and PS3 that aren't out the exact same day, but we know they're coming soon, why would it matter much. I guess this is just me showing my consoling noobishness, but it just seems silly to anyone except folks who were going to buy the system on day one anyhow. ...And I suspect that some of the folks complaining about the line-up in this thread weren't going to buy a 360 no matter what the line-up. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Not only is the release day line-up lacking in oomph power, but apparently all of the first generation of software on the Xbox 360 aren't multi threaded, if this rumour turns out to be true. That means they'll use ONE of three cores available on the CPU.. Not a good sign for the PS3 either, since it's supposed to be even worse to work with. Source: http://theinquirer.net/?article=27249 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Interesting. Didn't Epiphany say that Call of Duty 2 was using all three processors, and that it "clearly showed" because of how great the game ran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surreptishus Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Here's what I don't get... folks complain that Oblivion won't be out on the day the 360 hits the shelves. Who cares? We know it's coming out soon afterwards. It's not like it's going to turn into vaporware. So it's not out the exact same day? So what? Furthermore, if there are titles for the Revolution and PS3 that aren't out the exact same day, but we know they're coming soon, why would it matter much. I guess this is just me showing my consoling noobishness, but it just seems silly to anyone except folks who were going to buy the system on day one anyhow. ...And I suspect that some of the folks complaining about the line-up in this thread weren't going to buy a 360 no matter what the line-up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The problem is you end up owning a console without any games worth playing. Funnily enough the strength of a console is based on the number of killer apps it has, so if there arent any at launch why should anybody buy a console? Fortunately for console manufacturers this is counteracted by rabid fanboys' geekish need to own everything as soon as it is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Here's what I don't get... folks complain that Oblivion won't be out on the day the 360 hits the shelves. Who cares? We know it's coming out soon afterwards. It's not like it's going to turn into vaporware. So it's not out the exact same day? So what? Furthermore, if there are titles for the Revolution and PS3 that aren't out the exact same day, but we know they're coming soon, why would it matter much. I guess this is just me showing my consoling noobishness, but it just seems silly to anyone except folks who were going to buy the system on day one anyhow. ...And I suspect that some of the folks complaining about the line-up in this thread weren't going to buy a 360 no matter what the line-up. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> The problem is you end up owning a console without any games worth playing. Funnily enough the strength of a console is based on the number of killer apps it has, so if there arent any at launch why should anybody buy a console? Fortunately for console manufacturers this is counteracted by rabid fanboys' geekish need to own everything as soon as it is available. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That would make sense, if it wasn't possible to buy a console later. I've never bought any console at launch. Doesn't mean I wouldn't buy the console later though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surreptishus Posted October 29, 2005 Share Posted October 29, 2005 Well if the 360 is sold out on pre order due to people wanting it for christmas, it may well be the case that the console isnt available for a while. The ipod minis realease was delayed in Europe due to high demnad in the US, same with the PSP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14884_1556103668 Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Well, I for one will wait, until #1. It drops in its over rated price, #2 That they have games that I would actually like to play and own, and lastly #3. until Oblivian comes out :"> Haha...just my say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surreptishus Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 It will be sure to drop in price when the PS3 or Revolution comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 I thought Halo 3 was coming out on launch day as well. Not that I'm looking forward to it, since I never played the second one and only made it halfway through the original. But I thought Microsoft was making it a point to release H3 with the 360. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think MS are planning to release Halo 3 on the same day as the release of the PS3. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which was going to be the day they released Longhorn, except they lost all the features on the way to the marketplace, so they called it something more reminiscent of vapourware: Vista ... OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphany Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 The problem is you end up owning a console without any games worth playing. Funnily enough the strength of a console is based on the number of killer apps it has, so if there arent any at launch why should anybody buy a console? Fortunately for console manufacturers this is counteracted by rabid fanboys' geekish need to own everything as soon as it is available. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oddly enough, a large number of gamers are considering Kameo, Project Gotham Racing 3 and Condemned to all be killer aps for the the X360 at launch. While many FPS fanboys are considering CoD2 to be a killer ap - but PC reviews are starting to debunk that frame of mind. Regardless, you're left with an action/adventure game, racing game, and a first person game all of which are expected to be of the "killer ap" quality, much like Oblivion and Gears of War are expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Epiphany, what's your take on this link: http://theinquirer.net/?article=27249 It's Microsoft stating that none of the first-generation games are multi-threaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAnakin Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 list of games<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not a single game on that list makes me interested in buying a XBox360. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphany Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 (edited) Epiphany, what's your take on this link: http://theinquirer.net/?article=27249 It's Microsoft stating that none of the first-generation games are multi-threaded. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> While I don't know all of the games, this report is, in fact false to some degree. Bethesda claimed Oblivion was "heavily" multi-threaded in a thread on their forums about that very article. While the CoD2 guys said at the Digital Life show in NYC that CoD2 used all the cores, and was multi-threaded for AI, physics, and the like. Elder Scrolls forum thread from thread: BZZZT! Wrong. Oblivion is heavily multithreaded, and definitely benefits from multi core processors, multiple processors and hyperthreading. Someone doesn't have their facts straight, and as someone who's actually working on the game, I can say with certainty that it's not me Edited October 31, 2005 by Epiphany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 Not a single game on that list makes me interested in buying a XBox360. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not even backgammon? :D I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Epiphany, what's your take on this link: http://theinquirer.net/?article=27249 It's Microsoft stating that none of the first-generation games are multi-threaded. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> While I don't know all of the games, this report is, in fact false to some degree. Bethesda claimed Oblivion was "heavily" multi-threaded in a thread on their forums about that very article. While the CoD2 guys said at the Digital Life show in NYC that CoD2 used all the cores, and was multi-threaded for AI, physics, and the like. Elder Scrolls forum thread from thread: BZZZT! Wrong. Oblivion is heavily multithreaded, and definitely benefits from multi core processors, multiple processors and hyperthreading. Someone doesn't have their facts straight, and as someone who's actually working on the game, I can say with certainty that it's not me <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Your quote from the Bethesda employee was directed at a poster that was including Bethesda as the developers. I think The Inquirer is referring to just games released upon the launch of the console (which is still stupid of them to do). In any case The Inquirer has never really been a gem of reliable journalism. Here's in interesting read for everyone if they haven't read it it: http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/xbox360-2.ars/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphany Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Your quote from the Bethesda employee was directed at a poster that was including Bethesda as the developers. I think The Inquirer is referring to just games released upon the launch of the console (which is still stupid of them to do). In any case The Inquirer has never really been a gem of reliable journalism. Here's in interesting read for everyone if they haven't read it it: http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/xbox360-2.ars/1 <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You said something along the lines of "all first generation games" - which encompasses much more than just the "launch games" - of which Call of Duty - a multi-threaded game is part of. With Oblivion only being a couple of weeks later. I also remember Cliffy B talking about Gears of War being multi-threaded, but I don't recall the source of the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 If they are multi threaded colour me even less impressed. I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphany Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 If they are multi threaded colour me even less impressed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LOL! Then I guess you'll be even more unimpressed about the PS3 and Cell - since it's a multi-threaded processor as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 LOL! Then I guess you'll be even more unimpressed about the PS3 and Cell - since it's a multi-threaded processor as well. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well that depends what's done with it. If they are already tapping most of the power to come up with the likes of Oblivion, well like I said colour me unimpressed. I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epiphany Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 LOL! Then I guess you'll be even more unimpressed about the PS3 and Cell - since it's a multi-threaded processor as well. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well that depends what's done with it. If they are already tapping most of the power to come up with the likes of Oblivion, well like I said colour me unimpressed. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Multi-threading a game, and using all available power/resources are vastly different. But yeah, you're cynical, so keep up the hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowPaladin V1.0 Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 Multi-threading a game, and using all available power/resources are vastly different. But yeah, you're cynical, so keep up the hate. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yes but multithreading was supposed to be revolutionary remember ? You said it yourself not so long ago... Thing is none of those games are revolutionary and they all run as well, or better on a pretty "normal" gaming PC. So where is the revolution of multithreading ? Well cynic and realist are not too far appart. Funny because as I recall you were less than thrilled with the games you saw running on the 360 as well.. What was it ? Call of Duty and Oblivion were the only impressive things there ? I have to agree with Volourn. Bioware is pretty much dead now. Deals like this kills development studios. 478327[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAnakin Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Not a single game on that list makes me interested in buying a XBox360. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not even backgammon? :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Okay, maybe one game. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metadigital Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Not a single game on that list makes me interested in buying a XBox360. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not even backgammon? :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I like backgammon. That is where I can see why I am the "chosen one". OBSCVRVM PER OBSCVRIVS ET IGNOTVM PER IGNOTIVS OPVS ARTIFICEM PROBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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