At first, the 2nd game is kinda slow.... but once u hit korriban its starts getting fun..... REAL FUN!!!

So many hate the game... i just wanna put myself out of my misery and play gawd dammit

I'm really digging it.

 

Gameplay is better.

 

Dialogue is better.

 

The new workbench system is better.

 

Skills are vastly more important.

Yeah Obsidian greatly expanded on the dialogue,workbench and the feats/skills/powers.and the story is simply Awesome

I'm really digging it.

 

Gameplay is better.

 

Dialogue is better.

 

The new workbench system is better.

 

Skills are vastly more important.

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Having a variation of 2 or 3 questions to ask an NPC for the majority of the game...and then after certain events occur, not having an update to those options really doesn't constitute better dialogue.

 

How pathetic was it that

Handmaiden's & Visas' conversation options didn't update after the defeat of Atris & Nihilus respectively.

It's like the whole thing didn't happen.

The fact that Handamaden tells you her name after that cutscene, and then via convo option says she can't tell you is just poor. Or the fact that Visas keeps rattling about her the coming battle with her master even though you already defeated him.

Very unsettling. But then again, the whole latter portion of the game (post

return to Dantooine

), fell apart. All that build up means nothing if you end up with an rushed & unfinished product. <_<

 

You probably haven't reaced that stage Ender, but when you fail to achieve any closure or

party member resolution

, you'll know what I mean.

In my opinion the ending was a good cliffhanger and it was really a begginging because it left a lot more open for the next game than KOTOR1 did.

It does give you closure on most of the characters if you ask Kreia about every planet and the party members she answers the questions going into the future. It seems to me none of them appeared at Malachor because the main chracter went by himself. It gives you a lot more than the last game in telling what happened to the characters that didn't die.

I like them the same.

In my opinion the ending was a good cliffhanger and it was really a begginging because it left a lot more open for the next game than KOTOR1 did.

It does give you closure on most of the characters if you ask Kreia about every planet and the party members she answers the questions going into the future. It seems to me none of them appeared at Malachor because the main chracter went by himself. It gives you a lot more than the last game in telling what happened to the characters that didn't die.

 

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Wrong. There was no closure - more questions were raised than answered. And to buy a third game in order to gain closure on it's predecessor its simply farcical!

 

Also, to say that "it gives you a lot more than the last game" is laughable. The first KotOR allowed you to bask in your victory. Here one is left unsatisfied with a very broken conclusion. <_<

How is he wrong?

 

He said cliffhanger. You said he's wrong because there is no closure.

 

Last time I checked a cliffhanger lacks closure, but sets you up for the next installment.

 

You can disagree and say that you would prefer closure, but I don't think he's WRONG in saying it's a cliffhanger.

I voted for KOTOR, but I'm actually a bit pleased that TSL is in the lead.

 

What does this say about my personality?

"There is a thing to be said about the government [substitute: Ivan the Terrible], and if there weren't women and childred around, I'd say it!" -- Groucho Marx

How is he wrong?

 

He said cliffhanger.  You said he's wrong because there is no closure.

 

Last time I checked a cliffhanger lacks closure, but sets you up for the next installment.

 

You can disagree and say that you would prefer closure, but I don't think he's WRONG in saying it's a cliffhanger.

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It's not really a cliffhanger either - it's just weak and unfinished.

 

Something like Half-Life 2, HALO 2 & Matrix Reloaded would constitute 'cliffhangers'. This was simply broken and ambiguous.

I can't really say until I get there.

 

I know people were throwing things with Halo 2's ending. The only reason people are forgiving Bungie is that the main reason to buy that game was to play Halo on Live.

I prefer Bastila over Handmaiden/Visas anytime :">

 

Though my special BBIAVG Award

(Best Butt in a Video Game)

now goes to Shahdee from PoP2

God damn that game was good.... down to the last cheek.... be warned... there were many :|

I can't really say which I prefer, and haven't completed TSL yet. But I couldn't tell you which of thr Tirlogy is my favorite either, as I enjoy taking them all in as a whole. And no, I don't mind Ewoks. (but thought Jar-Jar was lame, like most).

KOTOR2 improves greatly from the original. Better looking jedi robes, prestige classes, the use of skills, the workbench, darker atmosphere. All great improvements. With that said, there are a ton of annoying problems with KOTOR2. The story is ok, but it doesn't flow very coherently. The framerate is a complete nightmare at certain points in the game. There is a lot of good stuff here but there are also a ton of problems. In the end, I prefer KOTOR2.

Good and valid opinions by all.

 

I prefer K1 over K2. In my opinion, adding new features, powers, increasing the importance of skills doesn't equate to a better game.

 

It just equates to something different. K2 has far more bugs across the board than K1. Not to mention, some of these bugs affect game mechanics which is a big disappointment for me.

 

I won't even get into the farce concerning the difficulty/challenge of K2. Talk about the pinnacle of powergaming.

 

- dr cloak

They are both excellent games, but Kotor is much better than TSL. The only thing TSL improved on was gameplay, beyond that Kotor excelled beyond TSL IMO.

You say that KOTOR was better in almost every way. How so?

 

KOTOR:2 has more replay value.

KOTOR:2 has prestige classes.

KOTOR:2 has better NPCs. They all have a special talent. In KOTOR:1, only the Jedi were worth anything in your party. And two of the characters basically had no personality or story in KOTOR:1 whatsoever.

 

Gameplay is better.

Graphics are better.

There are boatloads of new features.

The story is better.

 

So, how is KOTOR better?

Answer?

 

It isnt

Really, I'm not trying to be arguementative, but I don't see any aspect of KOTOR that I believe to be superior to KOTOR:2, save for stability!

In KOTOR, if you played hardcore LS or hardcore DS, the only thing you got out of it was to become a goody goody or a big bully.

 

In TSL, if you go hardcore LS or hardcore DS, it has an actual meaning and effect on the gameplay. If you take the time to listen to your party members, you gain influence which you can later use to manipulate them to your heart's content!

You just hit Post #42.

 

God, I'm a geek.

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