Craftsman Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 The major differences being fully flushed out story and getting rid of those bugs. And its clear that the christmas deadline was not enough to finsih the game properly. Want it to happen?
nightcleaver Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 Yeah... give them another year to make it complete.
Darth Buzz Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 That would be great. Im hearing about too many things that didnt make it in the game bacause they ran out of time.
Force Reaper Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 It'd be cool I guess, I doubt it'll happen though.
Judge Hades Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 I rather see them put this game in the grave and put forth all that effort in making the next game better.
GhostofAnakin Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 I haven't read any spoilers about what the story is like, just the basics about how the ending is.....different. So personally I can't comment on whether more time needs to be spent on the story aspect. However, my one wish is that when the PC version is released, all (or atleast most) of those nagging issues I'm reading about in the tech help forum are fixed. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Azazel005 Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 One would think the story was written and developed well before the project came anywhere near completion. I certinaly don't think that any more development time would be dedicated to plot. As long as the technical issues are sorted, I think it should be fine. Of course I am just waiting for it on international X-box, so I guess the same issues will likely be plagueing that.
Sargeras Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 I rather see them put this game in the grave and put forth all that effort in making the next game better. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Indeed Hades. All this game needs is a patch, and they can make KOTOR III that much better when their team expands and they can settle in more. The Dark Lord
Darth Ni Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 I hear many people are disappointed with the lack of character sidequests. I think they need to explore that a bit more. I dont know anything about the ending so I cant offer comment there but once again, not too many people like the ending either...
junior Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 One would think the story was written and developed well before the project came anywhere near completion. I certinaly don't think that any more development time would be dedicated to plot. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> While plot is indeed typically decided before all that much work starts on the game, due to time pressures, deadlines, etc..., elements of the plot can end up being trimmed or removed entirely due to time issues. One example would probably be the HK droid factory, which has already been identified as something that was removed from the game at the last minute.
EnderAndrew Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 For the past year I've heard people screaming they couldn't wait, and wanted the game out. They pleaded for an early release. Then they bitch that the game is under-developed. Imagine that. Maybe it's supposed to have a cliff-hanger. Did ESB really resolve much? No. And in the grand scheme of the trilogy, it's the best story. I haven't played KOTOR:2, but I imagine it might stand out much the same way. Patch some bugs in the PC release, and move onto KOTOR:3.
nightcleaver Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 Umm... I don't think anyone wanted it to come out unfinished, and I don't think it actually had any effect on LA's decision. I don't know of a game that's anticipated, and people don't perk their ears up for an early release. The general concensus around THESE boards, as I recall, was that no one wanted it rushed - but they did want it as soon as possible. However, what I do find annoying is people who expect it to be everything, try to push for the release, and then get pissed when it isn't everything they ever dreamed.
GhostofAnakin Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 I didn't want a rush release. I didn't want an early release. All I ever bitched and complained about was a simultaneous release. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Darth Ni Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 I can understand if they delay it by 1-2 months but, they should improve upon the XBOX version such as giving more npc sidequest options, fixing the bugs, adding new crystals etc.
Lacan Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 Yes, a Director's Cut. But going to that length isn't even necessary! The PC version hasn't been released yet, and I know it's a Hail Mary, but PLEASE Obsidian, delay the pc version until you fix the problems. Forget fixing the minor glitches/framerate issues, just fix the end. It may be unprecedented for all I know, and totally unrealistic, but you must listen to your conscious! Please Obsidian, don't listen to the marketing goons. :D
Meshugger Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 A PC-version with an alternate ending? With Microsoft's blessing? Hahahahaha . .. .... HAHAHAHAHAHA (Don't take it personal) "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Craigboy2 Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 The major differences being fully flushed out story and getting rid of those bugs. And its clear that the christmas deadline was not enough to finsih the game properly. Want it to happen? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> They neither have the time or the money to redo KOTOR2, for two reasons. 1. LA has already paid so no funds to redo a it and than Obsidian won't be able to to pay their staff 2. They need to be working on NWN2 "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf
GhostofAnakin Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 A PC-version with an alternate ending? With Microsoft's blessing? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know this is a useless comment, since it seems rather obvious that Microsoft's "blessing" probably made pushing the XBox release forward, but....technically, why would LA or Obsidian need Microsoft's blessing concerning a PC issue? "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Craigboy2 Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 Yes, a Director's Cut. But going to that length isn't even necessary! The PC version hasn't been released yet, and I know it's a Hail Mary, but PLEASE Obsidian, delay the pc version until you fix the problems. Forget fixing the minor glitches/framerate issues, just fix the end. It may be unprecedented for all I know, and totally unrealistic, but you must listen to your conscious! Please Obsidian, don't listen to the marketing goons. :D <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think LA writes the story and anyways the game is way too late in development to be changing the ending. "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf
GhostofAnakin Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 I think LA writes the story and anyways the game is way too late in development to be changing the ending. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wonder what Chris Avellone's response to this would be. " "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
Craigboy2 Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 I think LA writes the story and anyways the game is way too late in development to be changing the ending. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I wonder what Chris Avellone's response to this would be. " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That he worked long and hard on the story and that I "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf
Lacan Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 They wouldn't, but I doubt Obsidian or Lucas would be willing to do it. But I feel sorry for you guys who have to wait for 2 more months. You invested alot of patience in this, with 80+% of you feeling that patience will be well spent... and then you'll experience the last three hours of the game. I would say start a petition if I thought it would make any difference.
Craigboy2 Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 They wouldn't, but I doubt Obsidian or Lucas would be willing to do it. But I feel sorry for you guys who have to wait for 2 more months. You invested alot of patience in this, with 80+% of you feeling that patience will be well spent... and then you'll experience the last three hours of the game. I would say start a petition if I thought it would make any difference. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You don't know anything do you? "Your total disregard for the law and human decency both disgusts me and touches my heart. Bless you, sir." "Soilent Green is people. This guy's just a homeless heroin junkie who got in a internet caf
Meshugger Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 A PC-version with an alternate ending? With Microsoft's blessing? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know this is a useless comment, since it seems rather obvious that Microsoft's "blessing" probably made pushing the XBox release forward, but....technically, why would LA or Obsidian need Microsoft's blessing concerning a PC issue? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I see it as pretty obvious that Lucasarts has refreshed their NDA with Microsoft, meaning no extras for other platforms, since no Live function is available on the xbox. If the PC-version do get some extra goodies that would include changing of the ending, i would be very suprised. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Lacan Posted December 16, 2004 Posted December 16, 2004 You don't know anything do you? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Is this a rhetorical question? :D
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