Darth Sirius Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I think Mr. Avellone got a little jealous of Akari, gagged him, and let us know all the tid-bits himself so he could take all the credit! Shame on you. " <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Actaully, Akari already told us about the "point" (avoid mines) ability that mira has. How it works is that she won't set of mines, but if she is the head of the party, then no one sets off mines. The grenade launcher is new tho. Tho I do appreciate MCA stopping round. Thanks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I know, but he's still trying to muscle in on his crown as darth infogiver. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludozee Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Thanks Chris Avellone It seems non-Jedi NPC's are getting a much bigger role in TSL gameplaywise. I can only approve this. Now you are more encouraged to use non-Jedi partymembers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 it would definately seem so. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carth Vader Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Chris Avellone, have I ever told you you're my hero........ " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 We will see about that in due time. Never judge something by the looks of it. Appearances can be deceiving. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maia Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Interesting info. Hopefully those rockets do a lot of damage. But why would we want to shoot grenades from Mira's launcher when we can just throw them? Do they get better range or what? Oh, and does Mira's launcher take a "glove" spot in her equipment screen or does it hog her alternative weapons slot ? Also, looks like those mines have grown more deadly, as in KOTOR1 running over them and setting them off wasn't a big deal. Wonder how we can master that sequence if Mira isn't in the party at the time, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 you're gonna have to disable the mines then. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRevan987 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Beginning to like this Mira woman...Though she will have a spot in my party about 15% of the game... One spot will always be for a Jedi or Sith...The last spot will probably go to Mandalore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Beginning to like this Mira woman...Though she will have a spot in my party about 15% of the game... One spot will always be for a Jedi or Sith...The last spot will probably go to Mandalore <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What no HK-47 on your party?? And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I think putting non-Jedi NPCs in the game is a waste of time. We all know that Jedi are the only thing worthwhile in the Star Wars universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I think putting non-Jedi NPCs in the game is a waste of time. We all know that Jedi are the only thing worthwhile in the Star Wars universe. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Do you now? " And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I think Hades could really benefit from those [sarcasm] tags. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I think Hades could really benefit from those [sarcasm] tags. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would think the sarcasm would be obvious without the need of tags. Serious though, what is the freaking point of putting non-Jedis as NPCs if we can't be one ourselves. Just plain stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 I think Hades could really benefit from those [sarcasm] tags. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I would think the sarcasm would be obvious without the need of tags. Serious though, what is the freaking point of putting non-Jedis as NPCs if we can't be one ourselves. Just plain stupid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Don't start again.... And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carth Vader Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Serious though, what is the freaking point of putting non-Jedis as NPCs if we can't be one ourselves. Just plain stupid. Most people would disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAnakin Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Serious though, what is the freaking point of putting non-Jedis as NPCs if we can't be one ourselves. Just plain stupid. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Diversity among party members? In NWN, we can't play as Dragons or as kobald, so should those characters not exist to interact with? I know you're on a crusade, but that was one of the less intelligent things you've said. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Different setting, there Ghoastie. We are talking about Star Wars, not DnD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Somehow I had the impression that you wanted them to look alike. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAnakin Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Different setting, there Ghoastie. We are talking about Star Wars, not DnD. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What does the different settings have to do with your statement? You're complaining that since we can't play as a character (in this case, non-Jedi) then it's stupid to have that character as an NPC. Hades, too often you make an argument, but then completely ignore facts that make your argument look weak by saying they don't apply. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSLuke Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Different setting, there Ghoastie. We are talking about Star Wars, not DnD. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What does the different settings have to do with your statement? You're complaining that since we can't play as a character (in this case, non-Jedi) then it's stupid to have that character as an NPC. Hades, too often you make an argument, but then completely ignore facts that make your argument look weak by saying they don't apply. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> GhostofAnakin used successfuly Force Disarm on Hades_One. And by the light of the moon He prays for their beauty not doom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Different setting, there Ghoastie. We are talking about Star Wars, not DnD. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What does the different settings have to do with your statement? You're complaining that since we can't play as a character (in this case, non-Jedi) then it's stupid to have that character as an NPC. Hades, too often you make an argument, but then completely ignore facts that make your argument look weak by saying they don't apply. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well, I am talking about classes here and you are bringing up races. Two different issues here in my book. At least the last time I checked in NWN you can play as a bard/Red Dragon Disciple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRevan987 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 The only Non jedi character i found useful in KOTOR was none other then Canderous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostofAnakin Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Well, I am talking about classes here and you are bringing up races. Two different issues here in my book. At least the last time I checked in NWN you can play as a bard/Red Dragon Disciple. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Two different issues, but same general idea. That being "it being stupid to have NPCs of classes/races/subraces/etc. that you, as the PC, cannot choose". It's just semantics to differentiate, since it's basically the same thing. Point being, it makes no sense to say it's "stupid" to have NPCs of a certain class just because you can't play that class. It's about diversity. It's just as valid as saying it was stupid to confront a Hutt, since you can't be a Hutt. Or it was stupid that you had a Wookiee in your party when you couldn't choose to be a Wookiee yourself. So then that becomes a "race" issue, and we go back to what I said about NWN and most D&D style games' "limitations". "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge Hades Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 It would be a better use of that diversity by allowing the player choose what class he wants to play instead of being forced to play a Jedi. Also it may not be possible in the baseline NWN game but there are ways to play a kobold in the game if you really want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthRevan987 Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 "What no HK-47 on your party??" Maybe when i want a few laughs in the game yeah but when it comes down to killing Mandalore and a Force user will be sufficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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