Carth Vader Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 I thought this was interesting and I just thought I'd throw it out there. http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=d20/srdfaq/20040123a Q: Does a d20 System game have to have classes and levels? A: No. Nothing in the licenses or the System Reference Document require the use of classes or levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoToRfReAk Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 i say teras kasi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kdy-worker 1138 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Whats a Fringer?I'm already hoping for the chance to kill him <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Fringers come from outside sociaty,replacing a formal education with skills and knowlegde gained from experience. Usally,a fringer hails from a world that lies outside the "civilized" regions of space,but fringers can come from the fringe of galactic sociaty-wherever that may be. They use their dexterity,wisdom and strength to survive whatever the galaxy throws at them. A fringer isen't necessarily unfamillier with technology,but he certanly dosen't have access to the conveniences available to those of higher status on worlds such as Coruscant or corellia. The fringer is handy,robust,independant,and a expert at survival due to learning the lessons of "frontier" regions,be they in the Outer Rim or in the darkest levels of Coruscant. Some fringers might be from primitive, low-tech sociaties,but most have a basic understanding of high-tech equipment-they just come from a world or a part of sociaty where such equipment is in extremely short supply. Examples of fringers in star wars.: Luke Skywalker(beginning of A New Hope,Anakin Skywalker (in episode I),Biggs Darklighter. Characteristics. The fringer is a jack-of-all-trades,learning a little bit of everything to increase his or her chances of suviving. Often, a fringer can keep even the oldest,most beat-up piece of equipment running. Where a scout or a soildier has extencive training in repair skills(in D20),a fringer is better at keeping equipment jury-rigged than fixing it completely. this also meansthe fringer is faster at making slapdash repais,even in extreme situations,but less likely to fully repair an item. The fringeris at homein the hinterlands of space, able to get by without the conveniences of civilization. Of all the classes, fringersbest able to deal with whatever troubles the galaxy throws their way. They have excellent survival instincts and an enthusiasm that gets them through difficult circumstances. BAB (same as sentinel) Speciel abillitys: Barter,Jury-rig,survival bonus and bonus feats. Hope this answers some questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fardragon Posted November 4, 2004 Author Share Posted November 4, 2004 I'm guessing for soldier, none of the other characters in your party seems to be one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Mandalore Everyone knows Science Fiction is really cool. You know what PoE really needs? Spaceships! There isn't any game that wouldn't be improved by a space combat minigame. Adding one to PoE would send sales skyrocketing, and ensure the game was remembered for all time!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akari Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Bao Dur's class is Tech Specialist. I'm not sure what all that entails, but needless to say, the Skills are strong with that one. -Akari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate: 2000 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Very cool! I wonder if that means when it comes to breaking down materials to make other things if he will be able to make better items than normal? Thanks for the Info Akari! "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC83 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Sounds like Bao-Dur will be very useful when it comes to computers, repairs, and demolitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickboycp Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Sounds like Bao-Dur will be very useful when it comes to computers, repairs, and demolitions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which means T3M4 will be useless once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonarch Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Sounds like Bao-Dur will be very useful when it comes to computers, repairs, and demolitions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only if you design him that way. Tech specialists can cover a wide range of disciplines, though obviously more limited in a game such as this than in d20. And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Quasar Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Bao Dur's class is Tech Specialist. I'm not sure what all that entails, but needless to say, the Skills are strong with that one. -Akari <{POST_SNAPBACK}> In other words, he's a Technician? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carth Vader Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Bao Dur's class is Tech Specialist. I'm not sure what all that entails, but needless to say, the Skills are strong with that one. -Akari <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC83 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Sounds like Bao-Dur will be very useful when it comes to computers, repairs, and demolitions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only if you design him that way. Tech specialists can cover a wide range of disciplines, though obviously more limited in a game such as this than in d20. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Then what are the disciplines, other than computer, repair, and demolitions, do Tech Specialists have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Quasar Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Sounds like Bao-Dur will be very useful when it comes to computers, repairs, and demolitions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Only if you design him that way. Tech specialists can cover a wide range of disciplines, though obviously more limited in a game such as this than in d20. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Then what are the disciplines, other than computer, repair, and demolitions, do Tech Specialists have? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Probably Security........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archmonarch Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Well from the pnp, Id also add Treat Injury as some are doctors. But thats just me. And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying Are the best I've ever had Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate: 2000 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Sounds like Bao-Dur will be very useful when it comes to computers, repairs, and demolitions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which means T3M4 will be useless once again. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> unless bao-dur is only good at breaking down items and repairing items? Also T3 will be useful if for no other reason that being able to upgrade items on the fly. "The only difference between genius and stupidity is genius has its limits!" - Albert Einstein. "It's better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt!" "You can try to kill me, you'd fail!, but you can try!" - Revan. "When you have exhausted all other possibilities whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes (a.k.a. Sir Arthur Conan Dole) "A lack of planning on your part, does not constitute an emergency on my part" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carth Vader Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Sounds like Bao-Dur will be very useful when it comes to computers, repairs, and demolitions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which means T3M4 will be useless once again. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> unless bao-dur is only goof at breaking down items and repairing items? Also T3 will be useful if for no other reason that being able to upgrade items on the fly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> True, I doubt BD is a portable workbench like T3 is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Sounds like Bao-Dur will be very useful when it comes to computers, repairs, and demolitions. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Which means T3M4 will be useless once again. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> LOL! First thing that came to my mind too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Avellone Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 We have workbenches in the game; between Bao-Dur and T3, both of them combine to make a full portable workbench you can access at any time. As Akari said, Bao-Dur is a Tech Specialist. T3, as the testers have discovered, kicks incredible amounts of ass. His droid-specific items are pretty good, in addition to his other skills and abilities. He's far from useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laozi Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 I'm glad T3 won't suck, I like the idea of a Jedi and his astromech droid But an astromech is only as good as the midget lives inside of him People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BC83 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 We have workbenches in the game; between Bao-Dur and T3, both of them combine to make a full portable workbench you can access at any time. As Akari said, Bao-Dur is a Tech Specialist. T3, as the testers have discovered, kicks incredible amounts of ass. His droid-specific items are pretty good, in addition to his other skills and abilities. He's far from useless. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What are T3's other skills and abilities that might make him worth putting in the main trio? And since we got ya here, got any new info that you can tell us about Bao-Dur? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHutt Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 T3 was never useless.. he can open 99% of all the doors and hack almost any computer... if your a soldier/guardian or consular you can easily handle yourself so why not bring T3 along to open the stuff you can't? Still waiting for more character information : / I wish the site would release a couple more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kumquatq3 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 can open 99% of all the doors and hack almost any computer... if your a soldier/guardian or consular you can easily handle yourself so why not bring T3 along to open the stuff you can't? While i agree he wasn't useless (he was less usefull compared to...everyone else, almost), flame thrower and the stun were nice, you could chop through almost everything so the doors stuff was useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 In the D20 the greatest asset of a tech specialist was his ability to construct items at a much lower cost than its market price, provided access to components was available. With a well planified tech specialist a party wouldn't have to worry about credits, and could even obtain items not available through normal means. However I doubt this ability will be included since it would undoubtedly lead to powerlaming... I just hope Bao-Dur won't turn out to be a 'recruit and forget' type character as it happened with T3. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeRowe Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 While i agree T3 wasn't useless (he was less usefull compared to...everyone else, almost), flame thrower and the stun were nice, you could chop through almost everything so the doors stuff was useless. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yeah, I never even put any points in security because you could hack almost anything open (places like Uthar's room were the exception). I hope they made some changes this time to make it more useful. And what was that Avellone said "between Bao-Dur and T3, both of them combine to make a full portable workbench". Between. So one is like a work bench from KOTOR I and the other is able to do all the new things. So I have to fill up my party with them to get the whole workbench....... I think I will end up just using the workbench on the Hawk. But whatever, I'm sure it will still be a great game. "Working for Davik was like driving a spike in the side of your head. Sure, you got something new up there, but in the end, you've lost something as well." - Canderous "But I though Jedi weren't allowed to love." - Handmaiden "But some do it anyway. We call it pulling a Bindo." - The Exile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Sun_Tzu Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Yeah, I never even put any points in security because you could hack almost anything open (places like Uthar's room were the exception). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He opened Uthar's room for me! Another great idea by the people who brought you beer milkshakes! "I don't see a problem...then again, SW isn't my life, so what do I know...." - some who makes 27.8 post per day on a SW forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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