TheHutt Posted October 18, 2004 Posted October 18, 2004 Hrmm those are very good points. I'm in total agreement.
Kaftan Barlast Posted October 18, 2004 Posted October 18, 2004 Well you know, some theorize that there are only a few stories that are told over and over again throughout all of literary history. Funny thing is, they can't seem to agree on WHAT stories are repeated over and over again, exactly. the two main ripoff point are The Rakata > from NWNs ancient lizard race who also dominated the world in ancient times Bastilas flirt with evil > Aaribeth all over again DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. "
Craftsman Posted October 18, 2004 Author Posted October 18, 2004 I think to make it feel more like a planet, you should be able to travel to at least 3 differnet locations on the planet (cities,ruins ect) to make it feel bigger.
Guest Darth Banooby7 Posted October 18, 2004 Posted October 18, 2004 totaly. "This planet consists of a hallway and three rooms full of Sith to shoot."
Spook Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 KOTOR 3 game engine is already being developed, if you didnt know. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thought it was put on halt when Lucas art fired a lot of people.
Spook Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 3. the Manaan trial was a bit strange. I thought I put on an excellent defense of the guy, and he was still convicted. Even odder, I got XP for it! As it turns out, many game guides/walkthrus seem to indicate (spoiler alert???) he WAS guilty, so maybe I'm simply being rewarded for making the best of a worst situation? There was a darkside way to get him off scot free, by force persuading the hotel desk clerk to lie, but I chose not to use it. I saw no other way to win an innocent verdict, but then, apparently, I shouldn't have been able to ... ? Just point out he is a cripple, that the lady was a DS Jedi and that the Empire could have killed her for the old man braking up the relationship.....Dont mention his military career any time during the questioning. Oh yeah and bribe the witnesses to make fake statements 5. I'm not sure I dug the class/game system. I don't think SWd20 is that impoverished...? Too few skills. Too few non-combat feats for anyone other than jedi or droids. No options to play as a nonhuman, even though you had alien and droid NPCs. I understand the need for nerfing ranged weapons in these games, but blaster fire was ridiculously inaccurate and weak even for lvl20 Carth with his uber blaster. I also would have appreciated a multiclass possibility for other characters, giving them the option to become jedi or maybe even having juhani stop being jedi (fallen?) and become something else (scoundrel?) Also, as a multiclassed jedi, I really hated not having 8 more levels to get some more jedi feats and powers... although there is a KOTOR hack that lets you start as jedi, it really appears to muck with the plotline on Dantooine... that and while scout/jedi sentinel made sense, as did soldier/jedi guardian, scoundrel/consular did not (I guess its the SW equivalent of mage/thief). I liked the 9 NPCs, but I would have also liked to see a human melee soldier (Zaalbar is your main melee guy, but can't wear armor, and you can make Canderous into one, but he seems better suited as your machine gunner), and a human scout (Zaalbar really should be a warrior), and another scoundrel besides the good-natured young twilek girl with a soft heart... and a 2nd romance choice besides Bastila and ... Juhani.... for male PCs. That, and your dark side choices are limited. Only Canderous, HK, and Dark Bastila won't ditch you if you go the darkside route. Canderous make a mean ranged figher in the end when you get one of the better heavy basters for him that do 5d6 or so. And he still can hack and slash with the best if you give him some dual wielding or power attack feats. B) Canderous was my main backup when I went in as DS with DS whimpy Bastilia. He raised hell like none with that nice added regeneration he had (and you could add some nice items and implants to make him immune to a lot of the Jedi attacks).
DarthRevan987 Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 What was lame in KOTOR? Well... "FOR THE JEDI!!!!!!" Im sure everyone knows what im talkin about.....Who will be the one to make the all sacrifice and get themselves captured in KOTOR 2 in a sorry attempt to hold off the so called big bad Sith???
KOTORFanactic Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 I can just imagine Atton holding off Sion Atton "Oooooooooo. Heh there u sexy pile of death. Wanna see my pnis. Sion "Take a look at mine." *Activates lightsaber pnis* Sion "U like?" Atton "I like." But in all seriousness, if someone does indeed sacrifice themself to save u from evil guy, I guess will be either Atris or Kreia. (I dont think Atton is gay or nowt, I jus like parodies)
DarthRevan987 Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 Put me money on Atris...Wanna take that bet Fanatic??
KOTORFanactic Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 How much? I just think it could be Atris since she seems to be the most goody goody of ppl we know. She seems to be most likely to me to sacrifice herself to save you. So yeah, money on Atris.
Judge Hades Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 I hate sacrifices unless I am conducting them.
DarthRevan987 Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 500 credits.....Kreia seems more level headed then to just sacrifice herself in a needless situation...lol funny how i can say all that about Kreia by just looking at her in screenshots
DarthRevan987 Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 I hope Atris isnt one of those Jedi who does every little thing by the book...I want a Jedi in my party who will do things as he or she see fit..Not by how the Council sees it...Everyone has a different point of view of things and the Jedi Council's isnt always right
KOTORFanactic Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 I hope Atris isnt one of those Jedi who does every little thing by the book From the few pics we hav seen fo Atris, she looks like dat. Very serious looking. 500 on Atris. Anyway, anything else lame in KOTOR, I would say, er, no. I can only say what I said before, space and underwater walks. Just plain irritating, and almost pointless. Oh Yeah, On Leviathan, why not just cut through the locked door that leads to Karath with a lightsaber, like Qui-Go in Ep1.
DarthRevan987 Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 Guess they wanted us to go through the trouble of going all over to useless places on the ship to get to him?
DarthRevan987 Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 "From the few pics we hav seen fo Atris, she looks like dat. Very serious looking. 500 on Atris." Well from the pics i have seen Atris is always fighting someone...so a serious look isnt surprising...But when you talk to her i hope she isnt like...OH the Jedi Council would suggest this and that...The Jedi Council would approve of this...The Jedi Council wouldnt do things that way..Crap like that
KOTORFanactic Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 Well from the pics i have seen Atris is always fighting someone...so a serious look isnt surprising...But when you talk to her i hope she isnt like...OH the Jedi Council would suggest this and that...The Jedi Council would approve of this...The Jedi Council wouldnt do things that way..Crap like that So do I, a much wiser jedi than Bastila in KOTOR, she will be, so defy the council, she might. Wiser jedi tend to do things their own way sometimes, when they feel the council r wrong (Qui-Gon-Jinn as a example) so Atris may be just like that. I hope she will be.
DarthRevan987 Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 "Wiser jedi tend to do things their own way sometimes, when they feel the council r wrong (Qui-Gon-Jinn as a example) so Atris may be just like that. I hope she will be." So do i
WinterJedi Posted October 19, 2004 Posted October 19, 2004 Ok, this is going a wee bit off topic, so I'll move it back ontopic with my post. Lame? Well, I don't hink anything was "lame", but a few things could have been better. T3 and your wookie companion was rather boring NPCs. This didn't bother me much since I had trouble choosing between all the cool NPCs anyway. The Pazaak and Swoopracing thing was not for me either. Other then that, great game!
Craftsman Posted October 19, 2004 Author Posted October 19, 2004 Good point. T3 did NOTHING as a character. Lets hope all your characters all have something different to offer.
TheHutt Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 T3 did nothing? He was more important than the wookie and Mission and HK... I only ever used two jedi's in my party... and then I'd just bring T3 along. He unlocks and overrides like everything in the game specially at higher levels. He becomes a very useful characters i find if you are a soldier or something with low comp/security skills.
Topaz Quasar Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 1. The lack of a female Revan + Bastila lesbian romance. 2. The fact there was no real orange lightsaber aside from "Heart of the Guardian." 3. Darth Malak & Darth Bandon. 4. The fact that you could never kill Carth without being a Darkside Female, or the fact you never got to gut that ******* Ithorian on Kashyyyk. Or any other Ithorians for that matter *cough* Yuka Laka *cough*. 5. Master Vandar's stupidity.
Laozi Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 Well since I just learned this, the package you got on Korriban being a trapped Rakata People laugh when I say that I think a jellyfish is one of the most beautiful things in the world. What they don't understand is, I mean a jellyfish with long, blond hair.
Craftsman Posted October 20, 2004 Author Posted October 20, 2004 The lack of a female Revan + Bastila lesbian romance is not lame i dont think but more appropiatly conserative for younger players. Although it could be a major CHOICE in the game. Its need to be in the SW universe is strongly questionably.
Lord Tingeling Posted October 20, 2004 Posted October 20, 2004 The lamest (or at least a VERY lame) thing that comes to mind was that sith party on Taris. Talk about a ridiculously cheesy anti-climax, dude. Oh, and that the worlds in general felt very... artificial. Constrained, somehow. Though that hasn't stopped me from completing the game like ten times already. <_< "McDonald's taste damn good. I'd rtahe reat their wonderful food then the poisonous junk you server in your house that's for sure. What's funny is I'm not fat. In fact, I'm skinny. Though I am as healthy as cna be. Outside of being very ugly, and the common cold once in the blue moon I simply don't get sick." - Volourn, Slayer of Yrkoon! "I want a Lightsaber named Mr. Zappy" -- Darque "I'm going to call mine Darque. Then I can turn Darque on anytime I want." -- GhostofAnakin
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