OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted June 25, 2004 Posted June 25, 2004 I wouldnt want "her" in my party. she looks like the nameless one with makeup on. That and I cant stand large-scale hypocrites. Willing to do the dirty work of others, but not willing to "kill", then probably taking money which HAS been in the hands of a murderer, then claiming moral superiority because "killing is wrong, and i havent killed anyone" I cant stand phonies and mewling weaklings, which this character will probably be. I just hope i can turn her to the darkside and laugh and strike her down the second she does. Because she doesnt deserve strength.
Drakoth Posted June 25, 2004 Posted June 25, 2004 I wouldnt want "her" in my party. she looks like the nameless one with makeup on. That and I cant stand large-scale hypocrites. Willing to do the dirty work of others, but not willing to "kill", then probably taking money which HAS been in the hands of a murderer, then claiming moral superiority because "killing is wrong, and i havent killed anyone" I cant stand phonies and mewling weaklings, which this character will probably be. I just hope i can turn her to the darkside and laugh and strike her down the second she does. Because she doesnt deserve strength.
nightcleaver Posted June 26, 2004 Author Posted June 26, 2004 Sorry, but these character types are one of my biggest peeves! I cant bring myself to like them at all with ither a "good" character or a "bad" character, because my character finds too many reasons to loathe and distrust such a person. I hope she doesnt turn into a female carth. Han Solo wasn't a downright murderer, but he killed before being provoked - just because he thought someone would kill him. Does that make him exactly like a stormtrooper, because they killed too? A soldier kills in WWII, and someone else bombs the hell out of an almost entirely civilian-only occupied town. Are these two things equivalent? I think that's what she's like, and I don't think they explain it too well. They have, what, a paragraph to do it in. So you, "distrust" a person because you perceive inconsistency. I guess you just don't understand complexity in a person? It can be perfectly understandable if you don't limit yourself to totally meaningless words and concepts. As opposed to articulating the world in a coherent manner...
Dead Skin Mask Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Han Solo wasn't a downright murderer, but he killed before being provoked - just because he thought someone would kill him.
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 That made me laugh and made me angry at the same time...but from the little i've read about her, I think Mira will be a deep character, with a good set of morals on her...I just want to know if she will idolize you or not...
Drakron Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Not really , her archtype was been done many times. I hope this is not another case of "you must take this NPC with you", the old lady as far as I care can sit on Pegasus or whatever until the cows some home, if I play this game there will be no anoying Jedi (even if they are jedi wannabe) or stupid "Sith in making" tagging along.
Craftsman Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 So will her face be at redesigned. THe concept art was good, but the in game image is just offensive
NInjaPirate Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 They probably will now, all they have to do is make the lips smaller and move the eyes.
OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Yeah, Obsidian only needs to make some minor changes to the face, and then it will look infinitely better...that is if they are here, and listening...
NInjaPirate Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Somebody is usually here, they just like to lurk. :ph34r:
Indalecio Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 They probably will now, all they have to do is make the lips smaller and move the eyes. Nah, lips smaller, chin not as wide. Men tend have to wide chins. Women don't.
Tyrell Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Do i sense a romance comin on?? I really do hope that romances in this game is really non-linear. Meaning that you aren't just limited to have a romance with one character. Like in KOTOR for a male we can only be with Bastila and for a female you can only be with Carth. In KOTOR 2 if I'm a male, I want a choice. Cause I mean....Mira does seem somewhat hot but I bet she isn't the female that we can have a romance with. PlayMoreConsoles TheForce.net
SilverSun Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 I really do hope that romances in this game is really non-linear. Meaning that you aren't just limited to have a romance with one character. Giving one other option for each gender could add some replay value if nothing else.
Shdy314 Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Do i sense a romance comin on?? I really do hope that romances in this game is really non-linear. Meaning that you aren't just limited to have a romance with one character. Like in KOTOR for a male we can only be with Bastila and for a female you can only be with Carth. In KOTOR 2 if I'm a male, I want a choice. Cause I mean....Mira does seem somewhat hot but I bet she isn't the female that we can have a romance with. Then ask yourself what your willing to give up to add more romances. Romances are a lot of work unless you make them completely superflous. But a romance like Bastila's spanning the game and affecting the end of the game takes a lot of work. Adding that amount of depth to other female NPCs is hard on the writer and means depth will be lost to other NPCs. Im fine with 1. Even if I dont like who the person happens to be. This isnt KOTOR Hot Date.
SilverSun Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Then ask yourself what your willing to give up to add more romances. Romances are a lot of work unless you make them completely superflous. But a romance like Bastila's spanning the game and affecting the end of the game takes a lot of work. Adding that amount of depth to other female NPCs is hard on the writer and means depth will be lost to other NPCs. Im fine with 1. Even if I dont like who the person happens to be. This isnt KOTOR Hot Date. Where that is a good point,it's possible that the only that would be given up is time. Something like that could be the difference of a couple of weeks to a couple of months on the release date. Doesn't have to mean a loss to the of depth to the other NPC's.
Shdy314 Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Then ask yourself what your willing to give up to add more romances. Romances are a lot of work unless you make them completely superflous. But a romance like Bastila's spanning the game and affecting the end of the game takes a lot of work. Adding that amount of depth to other female NPCs is hard on the writer and means depth will be lost to other NPCs. Im fine with 1. Even if I dont like who the person happens to be. This isnt KOTOR Hot Date. Where that is a good point,it's possible that the only that would be given up is time. Something like that could be the difference of a couple of weeks to a couple of months on the release date. Doesn't have to mean a loss to the of depth to the other NPC's. Yes it does. Its called feature creep. They will not push back the release date to add more of something that is as unimportant as multiple romances. Its just bad business and developing. If time = everything we want in a game some company would go into hiding for 10 years and come out with the greatest game ever. But it doesnt work that way.
Tyrell Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Do i sense a romance comin on?? I really do hope that romances in this game is really non-linear. Meaning that you aren't just limited to have a romance with one character. Like in KOTOR for a male we can only be with Bastila and for a female you can only be with Carth. In KOTOR 2 if I'm a male, I want a choice. Cause I mean....Mira does seem somewhat hot but I bet she isn't the female that we can have a romance with. Then ask yourself what your willing to give up to add more romances. Romances are a lot of work unless you make them completely superflous. But a romance like Bastila's spanning the game and affecting the end of the game takes a lot of work. Adding that amount of depth to other female NPCs is hard on the writer and means depth will be lost to other NPCs. Im fine with 1. Even if I dont like who the person happens to be. This isnt KOTOR Hot Date. Yeah that is true. But if we do only get one romance (with me as a male), I hope it is with a non-jedi character and with someone like Mira. Cause if it is with another Jedi, it will just make the Jedi Code of you not being able to love seem like it has no meaning. But then again, even if it is with a person like Mira a non Jedi person....I'm still a Jedi and yet I'm showing love. So maybe it just could be with a Jedi character, most likely with that white haired chick. PlayMoreConsoles TheForce.net
Ivan the Terrible Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Do i sense a romance comin on?? I really do hope that romances in this game is really non-linear. Meaning that you aren't just limited to have a romance with one character. Like in KOTOR for a male we can only be with Bastila and for a female you can only be with Carth. In KOTOR 2 if I'm a male, I want a choice. Cause I mean....Mira does seem somewhat hot but I bet she isn't the female that we can have a romance with. Speaking as a heterosexual male, I think I would prefer the gay romance option over that square-jawed hermaphrodite. I made this half-pony half-monkey monster to please you But I get the feeling that you don't like it What's with all the screaming? You like monkeys, you like ponies Maybe you don't like monsters so much Maybe I used too many monkeys Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
SilverSun Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Yes it does. Its called feature creep. They will not push back the release date to add more of something that is as unimportant as multiple romances. Its just bad business and developing. If time = everything we want in a game some company would go into hiding for 10 years and come out with the greatest game ever. But it doesnt work that way. I didn't mean push back the release date. I was refering to the idea that having more then one romance options is all ready something they're doing and because of that the release date is set with that in mind. I haven't seen anything that stated how many options would in the game. If it's all ready been said that there's one,then my mistake.
WIDOWMAKER Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Speaking as a heterosexual male, I think I would prefer the gay romance option over that square-jawed hermaphrodite. thats crude ivan
Shdy314 Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Yes it does. Its called feature creep. They will not push back the release date to add more of something that is as unimportant as multiple romances. Its just bad business and developing. If time = everything we want in a game some company would go into hiding for 10 years and come out with the greatest game ever. But it doesnt work that way. I didn't mean push back the release date. I was refering to the idea that having more then one romance options is all ready something they're doing and because of that the release date is set with that in mind. I haven't seen anything that stated how many options would in the game. If it's all ready been said that there's one,then my mistake. Ah gotcha. My fault for misunderstanding. Youre right. The number of romances is not known. In fact romances themselves are not even confirmed. Just highly expected.
SilverSun Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Ah gotcha. My fault for misunderstanding. Youre right. The number of romances is not known. In fact romances themselves are not even confirmed. Just highly expected. There's this comment: ValhallaGamers: Many fans found the romance aspect of the game quite intriguing. Can we expect to see a romance for your character in the sequel as well? If there is what have you done to improve on it? Will you have more than one choice of characters to romance? Feargus Urquhart: We plan to continue in the foot steps of the first product with the romances. As to what we plan to do to improve on it, we
Ivan the Terrible Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 thats crude ivan But accurate. She is NOT attractive. I made this half-pony half-monkey monster to please you But I get the feeling that you don't like it What's with all the screaming? You like monkeys, you like ponies Maybe you don't like monsters so much Maybe I used too many monkeys Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
Exitium Posted June 26, 2004 Posted June 26, 2004 Well what do you know! She looks as ugly as one of Weiser Cain's random scribbles. Exitium RPG Codex - the premier avant garde gaming news site. "It is more convenient to follow one's conscience than one's intelligence, for at every failure, conscience finds an excuse and an encouragement in itself. That is why there are so many conscientious and so few intelligent people." - Nietzsche
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