Your Jedi in TSL

[nightcleaver]

forgot? It wasn't necessary for my point

[Judge Hades]

The force doesn't help you one bit if you have a 6 inch diameter hole in your torso.

[Kdy-worker 1138]

Force heal...

[Judge Hades]

Force heal has its limitations. It can't regenerate lost organs like a heart or three quaters of a lung.

[OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN]

forgot?  It wasn't necessary for my point

Meh...but Hades, think of ANH, when Obi is training Luke...so the Jedi could predict it...or use Force Heal as KDY suggested...

[Kdy-worker 1138]

Worked perfectly for me in Kotor....i could be shot to pieces and still the good

[Judge Hades]

Force Heal doesn't regenerate flesh. If you lose an arm you cannot use Force Heal to grow it back. It accelerates the normal healing rate of the Jedi, not make it do what it cannot do normally.

 

Also a Jedi reflexes cannot block or avoid indirect fire such as a grenade.

[nightcleaver]

forgot?

[OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN]

Because I don't believe you...hence the MEH... :ph34r:

[nightcleaver]

What? I have to list every single force power? You spam force powers in the game, that's my point. It should be improved so force use feels more special, or at least more strategic.

[Drakron]

One big issue I have is there are NO FORCE POWERS, force users simply use the force and no "I cast Force Heal".

 

In other words all force powers sould be avaible, SW:KotOR handled it very poorly since the lure of the darkside for a force user is how simply is to use the force to his own advantage, to use his hate to fuel his own force powers.

 

That is why jedi and force users in general have a problem, they have to think about how to use the force in a situation instead of going over their spellbook.

[OLD SKOOL WHEELMAN]

What?  I have to list every single force power?  You spam force powers in the game, that's my point.  It should be improved so force use feels more special, or at least more strategic.

Calm down...Take a deep breath...I got your point, and no you don't have to list every force power, it just seemed odd you forgot to mention force choke that's all...it all was a joke, so calm down...

[nightcleaver]

Nothing I said was insulting or terribly angry, so I don't really understand why you think I need to calm down. Let's do a word count in that post, there...

[ShinIchiro]

Hades, you are overlooking what makes the force users special and powerful. They have ways to succeed in seemingly impossible situations. The force guides them. Their danger sense makes snipers virtually useless (dodging). You also seem to have forgotten about sabers that can deflect sniper fire. You make the point that sheer number of bolts can overpower the jedi, but sniper fire isn't usually the less accurate massive amount of fire. BTW, if you fight Corran Horn anyway you've suggested, just lay down and die now. About grenades, danger sense gets the jedi jumping and out of the way. They can also throw the grenades right back down your throat using telekinesis before they explode. Or they can pull a Corran Horn and you have one supercharged jedi infront of you.

[SilverSun]

Wouldn't the situation have more to do with the individuals involved? How powerful the Jedi and how good the Non-Jedi/sniper was. Some Jedi could survive,others could not. Not to mention then environment also plays a big role in the situation. If Jedi were all powerful they'd never get killed by anyone who wasn't one(dark light whatever.) And if they were that easy to kill then they wouldn't have been used to protect the Old Republic.

[ShinIchiro]

Jedi can be killed, but it usually takes more than one sniper. Also, despite Hades' convictions, a detonator is not a guarenteed kill. Even weak jedi can be extremely compotenet if they surrender themselves to the force (that darth maul book where he killed this apprentice and her master).

[Judge Hades]

Who says I am throwing grenades. I would use a microgrenade launcher that can shoot 2 to 3 grenades every 3 seconds.

[ShinIchiro]

Ok, jedi runs away, pulls your weapons, tries to push the rockets, makes them collide. Dodging and running is probably the best method. Or they pull a corran horn and force the thing to explode on them. Then you have a supercharged and pissed jedi.

[GhostofAnakin]

Hades:

 

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123671

 

You might like it.

[Judge Hades]

Mods are nice, but being able to do this without a mod would be better. :D

 

Thanks for the link though, Ghostie.

[GhostofAnakin]

Mods are nice, but being able to do this without a mod would be better. :D

 

Thanks for the link though, Ghostie.

no prob

 

I'm actually playing through as a level 16 scout right now. Jamoh Hogra's armor and everything (not the strongest armor, but it's got a different design than most of the others).

[tripleRRR]

One big issue I have is there are NO FORCE POWERS, force users simply use the force and no "I cast Force Heal".

 

In other words all force powers sould be avaible, SW:KotOR handled it very poorly since the lure of the darkside for a force user is how simply is to use the force to his own advantage, to use his hate to fuel his own force powers.

 

That is why jedi and force users in general have a problem, they have to think about how to use the force in a situation instead of going over their spellbook.

This makes sense but it is difficult to implement in a game.

 

I would be happy if they imposed limits on what powers you could use depending on your points, if you were High DS you would be restricted from using most light force powers and vice versa, this would make your choices matter more in my opinion. The force point penalties were worthless in KotOR.

 

 

TripleRRR