Malcador Posted May 9 Posted May 9 (edited) https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/09/rumeysa-ozturk-tufts-ice-release-00338953 Well that's good news, of sorts. And of course this homunculus https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-stephen-miller-says-trump-administration-is-actively-looking-at-suspending-habeas-corpus Not a very good sign, even if (I assume) they can't actually do that. Edited May 9 by Malcador 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Gromnir Posted May 10 Posted May 10 (edited) 3 hours ago, Malcador said: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-stephen-miller-says-trump-administration-is-actively-looking-at-suspending-habeas-corpus Not a very good sign, even if (I assume) they can't actually do that. ... "The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it." doesn't say what miller suggests. needs be a rebellion or invasion AND the threat to public safety must be legal sufficient as to necessitate suspension o' habeas corpus. is not simple a matter o' trump declaring we got an invasion, so he may therefore suspend habeas corpus. however... am not sure how many times we need have this same conversation. "can't actually do that," is irrelevant. imagine trump waits 'til he gots ten c-5 loads worth o' undocumented immigrants he wants to "deport" to el salvador, rwanda and libya. and let's say scotus decides in the upcoming birthright citizenship case (which isn't actual about the legitimacy o' birthright citizenship btw,) that a district court judge can no longer grant nationwide tros/injunctive relief but is instead limited to granting to relief to respondents appearing before their court and in their district. so consider the possibility that on some friday or saturday night in the not too distant future, the trump administration organizes a mass deportation effort and suspends habeas corpus for tren de aragua, ms-13, lawyers at big name law firms and the less than a dozen trans athletes competing in ncaa sports, gets 'em on planes before lawyers are able to successful challenge the legality o' the intended deportations, and then the us military flies those persons to libya, el salvador and rawanda. trump has been practicing how to move deportees just ahead o' court responses. the upcoming scotus decision we mentioned may make the situation even more dire for potential deportees as individual judges could have their reach limited by a significant degree. yeah, when biden was President, near every conservative cause ended up before judge kacsmaryk in texas. conservatives sudden believe that one judge shouldn't have so much power, and the truth is they might be right, but their motives is pretty freaking transparent and self-serving. regardless, once all those people is outside the US, one step ahead of the law, trump will be able to do the same thing he is doing now and pretends as if he is powerless to fix the problem. of course the Court could eventual order trump to try and get those people back, but what nobody wants to admit is that is the extent o' their power. if trump says he tried his darndest to return all those people back to the US, but that el salvadaor, libya and rwanda refused to comply, what then? heck, what if all those planes carrying deportees crashed into the ocean? doesn't much matter, does it? if trump refuses or creates a situation where he literal cannot bring back his deportees, then what? well, of course we could impeach trump... can't do... illegal to do... impossible to do... that kinda thinking only applies to Presidents who follow the rules and traditions o' the US. trump is ignorant, covetous, petty and vain to a degree we has never seen in a chief executive, but people keep pretending as if next time he will follow the rules? serious? HA! Good Fun! Edited May 10 by Gromnir 1 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
BruceVC Posted May 10 Posted May 10 9 hours ago, Malcador said: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/05/09/rumeysa-ozturk-tufts-ice-release-00338953 Well that's good news, of sorts. Writing an article that is critical of Israel definitely shouldn't get you arrested She wasnt involved in a protest that broke the law and Im glad she has been released "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
BruceVC Posted May 10 Posted May 10 https://forward.com/opinion/719134/netanyahu-trump-rift-israel-houthis-iran/ A good read around the ostensible rift between Trump and Netanyahu In summary the objectives of the Israeli far-right are becoming counterproductive to Trumps political aspirations in the ME "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
HoonDing Posted May 10 Posted May 10 Indian bots and trolls are worse than hasbara, and almost as bad as MAGA. 1 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
uuuhhii Posted May 10 Posted May 10 2 hours ago, HoonDing said: Indian bots and trolls are worse than hasbara, and almost as bad as MAGA. combination of claiming to be extreme pacifist while endlessly eager for conflict with their neighbor are tiring
Malcador Posted May 10 Posted May 10 Bruce, here's your chance https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-bring-white-afrikaners-us-refugees-south-africa-wake-expropriation-legislation 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Zoraptor Posted May 10 Author Posted May 10 BruceVC is a very anglo name. He'd need to change it to something like Janie/ Fanie/ Faf/ Kepler/ Wilhansie/ Bakkies/ Reuben/ Jan or JoostVC in order to claim to be afrikaans. (Does my entire knowledge of Afrikaans first names come from rugby and cricket? Seems so) 1
BruceVC Posted May 11 Posted May 11 10 hours ago, Malcador said: Bruce, here's your chance https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-bring-white-afrikaners-us-refugees-south-africa-wake-expropriation-legislation I mentioned this before but this has become controversial in South Africa because white Afrikaners are not refugees by the correct technical definition I have no issue with anyone migrating legally to any country because its a personal and difficult decision and we have family and friends who migrated to the US years ago and they very happy Trumps understanding of the reality of the lives of white Afrikaners in SA is inaccurate and clearly this hasnt been explained to him by his advisors so he keeps peddling this false narrative around white genocide and land expropriation But end of the day whats interesting is the main Afrikaner special interest groups in SA have no interest in leaving and they have explained this several times https://iol.co.za/news/politics/2025-02-08-afriforum-flip-flop-on-white-genocide-declines-trumps-refugee-offer-as-they-call-for-local-solutions-to-south-africas-challenges/ "In a joint media briefing on Saturday, the Afrikaner interest and civil society group AfriForum, and the trade union Solidarity, were unequivocal, saying white Afrikaners were going nowhere and the Afrikaners’ future lies in Africa, specifically in South Africa. " “Emigration only offers an opportunity for Afrikaners who are willing to risk potentially sacrificing their descendants’ cultural identity as Afrikaners. The price for that is simply too high. We also owe it to our forefathers not to nullify their sacrifices to let Afrikaners take shape as a people by giving up our self-existence as Afrikaners,” he said. " "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Amentep Posted May 11 Posted May 11 4 hours ago, BruceVC said: Trumps understanding of reality is inaccurate Fixed it for you. 2 2 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
rjshae Posted May 11 Posted May 11 Pope Leo XIV was born in the US, a resident of the country for more than 14 years, and is over 35 years old. According to the Constitution, that makes him eligible to run for the US Presidency. Well that would make things interesting... "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
BruceVC Posted May 11 Posted May 11 18 hours ago, Zoraptor said: BruceVC is a very anglo name. He'd need to change it to something like Janie/ Fanie/ Faf/ Kepler/ Wilhansie/ Bakkies/ Reuben/ Jan or JoostVC in order to claim to be afrikaans. (Does my entire knowledge of Afrikaans first names come from rugby and cricket? Seems so) Its paid off, those are indeed Afrikaans names "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Bartimaeus Posted May 11 Posted May 11 1 hour ago, rjshae said: Pope Leo XIV was born in the US, a resident of the country for more than 14 years, and is over 35 years old. According to the Constitution, that makes him eligible to run for the US Presidency. Well that would make things interesting... The United Papal States of America Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.
Gromnir Posted May 11 Posted May 11 (edited) Trump reportedly set to accept a luxury jet from Qatar for possible use as Air Force One Congress erupts over Trump's billion-dollar crypto deal am recalling when congressional republicans were trying to convince us o' a biden crime family conspiracy via out-of-context and outright fabricated emails and texts. real evidence were always just a couple weeks away. trump is raking in billions, right out in the open. ... however, hunter did make money off a stoopid painting and got jobs he didn't deserve based on nothing but his last name, which means they are all bad, so... edit to avoid double-post: Poland says Russian secret service behind 2024 fire in Warsaw shopping centre HA! Good Fun! Edited May 11 by Gromnir 2 1 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
uuuhhii Posted May 12 Posted May 12 another 90 day pause for the trade war 90 day is not very long what happen when the time is up and usa still doesn't have a plan
Gfted1 Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Elementary, uuuhhii, its the end of the world. 1 http://www.sloganizer.net/en/image,Gfted1,black,red.png
BruceVC Posted May 12 Posted May 12 14 minutes ago, Gfted1 said: Elementary, uuuhhii, its the end of the world. Nuclear holocaust is obviously the only solution that will save us, remember this is the worst era of history "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
uuuhhii Posted May 12 Posted May 12 42 minutes ago, Gfted1 said: Elementary, uuuhhii, its the end of the world. for a long time the fantasy was that megacorp are more important to usa than federal goverment time to see if this perception have merit
rjshae Posted May 12 Posted May 12 4 hours ago, uuuhhii said: another 90 day pause for the trade war 90 day is not very long what happen when the time is up and usa still doesn't have a plan More time for the diplomacy *COUGH*bribes*COUGH* to kick in, I suppose. Unfortunately, it is maintaining an unhealthy business environment. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
Malcador Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Reminds me of the NYT interviewing voters last summer about Trump, one guy summarized him with the word "morality". Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Gromnir Posted May 12 Posted May 12 *peeks at the bond market* *groan* so, a clown shows up in a nice neighborhood with a flamethrower and sets the biggest house on the block ablaze, declares that not being on fire is an emergency situation and that he will save us from our lack o' burning. eventually, people in the crowd that gather convince the clown to take a break; nobody gets the flamethrower away from the clown or puts the fires out, but the clown does ease off o' the napalm and promises he will take a break... for now. hip hip hooray! the clown pulls out a pack o' cigarettes, fires one up, and then basks contentedly in the twin glow from the still burning house as well as the adulation o' the crowd. ... am admitting confusion as am not sure if we are s'posed to be giving credit to the clown for saving the house from burning down completely (for now) or for his initial plan which saves us from not being on fire. weren't we all gonna get rich from tariffs? weren't tariffs gonna pay down the deficit? a ninety day pause definite don't convince manufacturers to bring factories back to the US (especial not the good manufacturing jobs as 'posed to sneakers and dolls,) and sure as heck ain't reshaping the world economy to benefit the US. but at least the clown was doing something, right? gotta give him credit for that. *chuckle* too many americans is nuts. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Malcador Posted May 12 Posted May 12 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Hurlshort Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, as long as they are white.
uuuhhii Posted May 12 Posted May 12 41 minutes ago, Hurlshort said: Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses, as long as they are white. but don't count irish or italian as white or eastern european remember when uk commit elaborate ritual suicide because they hate too many polish people are flowing in from eu
Malcador Posted May 12 Posted May 12 Waiting for Bibi to appeal to the ICJ to stop the white genocide in RSA 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
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