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[Mamoulian War]

On 11/28/2024 at 9:45 AM, BruceVC said:

@Mamoulian War Mamie, Slovakian GTA game " Vivat Slovakia is an open-world game set in the newly independent Slovakia, a country on the dividing line between East and West. As remnants of communism linger, weakened institutions allow corruption to thrive, and power falls into the hands of the highest bidder. Fueled by money and violence, the “wild '90s” era brings a city steeped in intrigue and danger. "

 

Day I purchase for sure???

 

 

 

Unfortunately no. I find such games extremely boring  

[Mamoulian War]

On 11/28/2024 at 5:34 AM, Hurlshort said:

Pretty sure Trump won because of the economy and because the people that voted for Biden didn't turn out for Harris. I doubt the election was swung by pronoun sliders.

We've also talked about the game sales argument before, and there just isn't good evidence that going woke means going broke. Mediocre games do badly regardless of politics. 

Dragon Age is probably woke and I'm pretty sure it's selling well. I mean, I didn't buy it because it looks boring, but it had nothing to do with the politics.

This will be my last post about this topic, probably for a long while, because I am tired of it explaining it again and again, and this is not a correct thread as well.

You know, I am a member of progressive political party with a seat in municipial office, and our political party has now pretty nice sample, why we lost last two national elections. So I am not talking out of my ass, when I say, when you push to much your ideology, you will start getting more and more resistance within your own moderate electorate, who are in the core your allies, but they simply do not want to be called all different kind of insults, because they also happen to be religious. And all this is for more than a decade fueled by Russian propaganda, which is turning this into extremes. My own parents are religious, and they are always voted for a political parties who support marriage for everyone, despite that, there are people in my party and a lot our supporters, who call even people like them bigots, and this insults me. And as a consequences of these actions, we have lost a lot of center and center right voters, and becuase of that, we are now slowly turning into Belarus

I have very similar experience with my close friends, who changed their voting preferences during the last days, because they either felt insulted by some of our “fans” or they read some russian propaganda piece on Facebook. And all of this happend, because we have pushed in some topics to much, and the same happened in USA, as the mind of the human being is everywhere the same. Thankfuly our party has the data now, and we started to cooperate with more moderate personas, and using more moderate language. This in turn led to our party losing our most hardcore “fans” but the total number of voters have risen in the latest polls. Our political views are still the same, everyone knows it, but the people prefer the “milder” conversation.

Some liberal people really loves to live in their bubble, looking down at everyone who is not 100% aligned with their worldvuew, but if they want to change the world for the better, they first have to understand, that they need allies in the conservative spectrum as well, as they will be always in the minority, if staying alone. Else there would never happened things like laws allowing marriage for everyone in extremely religious countries like Spain or Ireland  So yeah, people now have two gamechanging options, either stopping to call their potential allies with all kind of names, when they do not share their worldview (you can see many of such insults even in this thread), or keep acting surprised how the populist and far right movements fuelled by Russian propaganda get more and more popular among general population  And yes, the Russian propaganda works overtime in gaming world as well, because they are very well aware, how big population of the western world has gaming as their most beloved hobby. And many of the “outrage” youtubers are directly paid by them (and maybe to your surprise, they pay them on both sides to further the grow the divide).

I will be on my way now as well…

[BruceVC]

1 hour ago, Mamoulian War said:

Unfortunately no. I find such games extremely boring  

You dont like the GTA franchise?

[Mamoulian War]

5 minutes ago, BruceVC said:

You dont like the GTA franchise?

Nope not really, last time I played it was GTA San Andreas or what was the name. I spend probably 10-15 hours on it, and then became bored. Same for many other "open world" games. The tasks keep extremely repetitive and numb after few hours...

[Malcador]

On 11/27/2024 at 5:30 PM, Mamoulian War said:

Well how much will it hurt, if you gave an option to someone, who does not understand this kerfuffle, to completely turn it off?

If they don't understand it, why is it an issue, that's the thing. 

Really, they should sell anti Woke DLC that removes whatever Woke is this week. Might as well monetize the fragility

Edited December 5 by Malcador

[BruceVC]

50 minutes ago, Malcador said:

If they don't understand it, why is it an issue, that's the thing. 

Really, they should sell anti Woke DLC that removes whatever Woke is this week. Might as well monetize the fragility

Or  they can  reject wokeness and return us to the gaming  era where liberated and confidant women  werent insulted and discriminated  against and they could wear chainmail bikini armour

Malc you  must never tell a women what she can or cant wear, I  learnt that on DAY 1 of my yearly classes around  " how to end, identify and change  white, male privilege " 

 

 

 

 

[HoonDing]

This just in: new Indiana Jones is woke because Indy has a female sidekick (like in all Indy movies/games) and you punch NAzis in the face

[melkathi]

Sophia in Fate of Atlantis would probably kick you in the orichalcum beats for calling her a sidekick.

[HoonDing]

Fate of Atlantis Fists path best path!

[LadyCrimson]

I don't know/care about "woke" but sometimes I'm a little tired of all the constant "female protagonist" games (when you can't choose) in a lot of the games - well, at least re: those that aren't purposefully otp machismo-action/godofwar/military/whatever fantasy. I just sometimes (well, ok, often) don't want female protagonists. I weirdly don't relate most of the time, or don't like many female VA's, perhaps why any "gaming imbalance" never bothered me in the first place.  What I've always wanted is a kind of equal numerical balance of all the tropes/issues/genres/hoohaa of the moment. So there's plenty of options/styles etc. all around, all the time. Which I know is unrealistic to expect, and it never happens - always swings one way or the other to extremes as trends. Ah well.

I was considering wasting money on the Indy game out of curiosity re: performance on my aging rig - plus he's a non-otp-machismo male protagonist - but after skimming through a few ppl playing it, it looks ... kinda boring. I mean if one really wanted an Indy game to capture an Indy feel, it looks good for that - I just mean, for my gameplay tastes. I might still waste money on it tho, could be false viewing impression. Not paying the early-access price hike tho.

 

[Wormerine]

1 hour ago, LadyCrimson said:

but after skimming through a few ppl playing it, it looks ... kinda boring. I mean if one really wanted an Indy game to capture an Indy feel, it looks good for that - I just mean, for my gameplay tastes.

I am honestly quite interested. For one I love classic Indiana Jones films, and beside that - exploration and puzzles were always my favourite Tomb Raider bits, and after those were mostly exorcised out of the TR franchise it is nice to see Indy pick up the slack (also Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine - I have such fond memories of this clunky game). I am worried if it will run well enough on my rig.

It is bad time for me to jump into it - I will be leaving my PC behind soon for holidays, and have too many things going anyway - need to wrap up couple games and finally free up some space. But I probably will be checking it out once I resume my gamepass subscription for Avowed.

[Lexx]

The new Indiana Jones game looks nice, but it's 70 bucks... nah. I'll wait 6 months and buy it for 20 or so then.

[Wormerine]

Hmmm, makes me wonder if it wouldn't be worth selling my 3070 (if anyone buys it) and buying something of 40 series with more Vram. That said, there isn't any new release that I must have, but I wonder if slightly better GPU would remain longer viable, than my 3070 which seems to be on the edge of not being good enough.

[Majek]

I saw the trailers and gameplay and this indi is not for me. Maybe next time if anyone will still be making an indi game in 10 years.

[LadyCrimson]

5 hours ago, Wormerine said:

Hmmm, makes me wonder if it wouldn't be worth selling my 3070 (if anyone buys it) and buying something of 40 series with more Vram. That said, there isn't any new release that I must have, but I wonder if slightly better GPU would remain longer viable, than my 3070 which seems to be on the edge of not being good enough.

Based on some forum posts and user reviews, in terms of the Indy game I think this is mostly going to be dependent on resolution and settings one personally tolerates. Outside of the "needs a rtx capable card", ofc. I mean it sounds like the visual differences with settings aren't super extreme - a trend I've noticed happening over recent years in a lot of games, actually - and one has to remember that while actually playing, most aren't staring at every pixel to notice fine differences, like all these comparison videos emphasize.

In terms of upgrading GPU's - I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but it does make one feel like AAA devs/nvidia are working together to force people to buy the top tier cards - eg, gimping the 60/70/80 series re: vram. >.>  I've said it before and I'll say it again - it may be "slower" generation but the 11gb of vram in my 2080ti (and sometimes, dlss, of course) is probably what has allowed to me to marginally still run some of these games at 4k at my personal tolerance of 45-60fps/mid-high settings etc. I refuse to do less than dlss-quality tho. I've tried. "Balanced" dlss still looks like crap, imo. I might as well just drop the native resolution to 1440, then.

 

Edited December 7 by LadyCrimson

[Hurlshort]

On 12/7/2024 at 3:18 AM, Lexx said:

The new Indiana Jones game looks nice, but it's 70 bucks... nah. I'll wait 6 months and buy it for 20 or so then.

Pretty sure you can play it on Gamepass for a dozen bucks or so.

[Lexx]

You mean if I get Gamepass I can buy it for cheaper or that you play it for the Gamepass price then? I never used it, so no clue how it works. Also is Gamepass a streaming service or do you download and use games as usual?

[melkathi]

Gamepass is a monthly subscription. You have access to a catalogue of games while your subscription is running.

So if you know you will be done with a game within a month and will not really want to play it again in the future, a one month sub may be a good deal.

[Lexx]

Cool. Guess I will try it then.

In other news, itch.io is currently down: https://bsky.app/profile/itch.io/post/3lcu6h465bs2n

[melkathi]

4 hours ago, Lexx said:

Cool. Guess I will try it then.

 

I found I had trouble signing in a lot. So I will only be using the service when I get the odd free month here and there.

[Melusina]

7 hours ago, Lexx said:

You mean if I get Gamepass I can buy it for cheaper or that you play it for the Gamepass price then? I never used it, so no clue how it works. Also is Gamepass a streaming service or do you download and use games as usual?

you download the games which is lamest for me. I had gift code for subscription and I hated that I had to download 100+ gigs game on my sistem in order to play it for just a week

[Wormerine]

8 hours ago, Lexx said:

You mean if I get Gamepass I can buy it for cheaper or that you play it for the Gamepass price then? I never used it, so no clue how it works. Also is Gamepass a streaming service or do you download and use games as usual?

It's a subscription service, think Netflix for games. You pay monthly fee and get access to a library of games (and as with subscription services the offer changed depending on what Microsoft licenced - come games come some games go). You download a game using XBOX App and run game's natively on your machine. However, it doesn't come with all the perks that owning a game grants you - it is a closed system, so I don't think modding is possible.  And of course, if you stop paying for the subscription you loose access to all the games as well.

Still, I found it to be an excellent deal to try games I wanted to play, but didn't particularly care to own. It comes with some big titles, but also quite a few smaller titles that I found worth trying out if not buying out right.

I think there is also some cloud streaming service connected to it, but I never looked into it.

[Lexx]

I tested it now since it's only 1€ for first 14 days. But oh boy, that download speed is atrocious... I'm at 17% now and downloading for 1 hour already.

/Edit: You have to do this to fix the download speed: https://www.esportstales.com/tech-tips/how-to-fix-xbox-app-slow-download-speed-pc-game-pass

Edited December 9 by Lexx

[BruceVC]

On 12/9/2024 at 6:51 PM, Wormerine said:

It's a subscription service, think Netflix for games. You pay monthly fee and get access to a library of games (and as with subscription services the offer changed depending on what Microsoft licenced - come games come some games go). You download a game using XBOX App and run game's natively on your machine. However, it doesn't come with all the perks that owning a game grants you - it is a closed system, so I don't think modding is possible.  And of course, if you stop paying for the subscription you loose access to all the games as well.

Still, I found it to be an excellent deal to try games I wanted to play, but didn't particularly care to own. It comes with some big titles, but also quite a few smaller titles that I found worth trying out if not buying out right.

I think there is also some cloud streaming service connected to it, but I never looked into it.

Modding is very limited which is a dealbreaker for me 

 

I like the idea of gamepass but it has these types of understandable constraints 

[Sven_]

On 12/7/2024 at 5:04 PM, Wormerine said:

Hmmm, makes me wonder if it wouldn't be worth selling my 3070 (if anyone buys it) and buying something of 40 series with more Vram. That said, there isn't any new release that I must have, but I wonder if slightly better GPU would remain longer viable, than my 3070 which seems to be on the edge of not being good enough.

Nvidia bundles the game with a GPU currently, only from RTX 4070 upwards though. The RTX 4070s are of course, "next". All of them have 12GB VRAM. On the plus side if you ever need to swap, Nvidia cards seem mostly pretty stable in prices, which influences the market for used cards and the money you can sell for. The RTX 3050 and 3060 are still selling NEW very close to their MSRP. The RTX 3070, if still available, seems above that actually. Used RTX 3070 seem to be going for ~300 Euro on Ebay on average (MSRP way back in 2020, four years ago, was 499 Euro). 

Aside of Indy, that's another reason why I casually think about buying RTX 4070. Gully aware that it is a scheme of Nvidia trying to upsell me, as below there's nothing decent available with more than 8GB VRAM else. An RTX 4060ti /16GB is far too expensive for what it is. An RTX 4060/12 they didn't even release, unlike back with RTX 3060. AMD's RX 6750XT 12/GB is selling for half of what it was two years ago (from over 600 quid down to just over 300), but I don't like its size and power draw. The RX 7600 XT is also too expensive for what it is.

edit: Just ordered the cheapest available RTX 3060/12GB. I'm on Full HD -- and Warhorse better not be lying with this. (Official requirements claim the card is still good for FHD / 60fps / medium, which is roughly how I've played KCDI.

Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 Runs 'Buttery Smooth' on RTX 3050, Won't Have Denuvo on PC

 

 

Edited December 11 by Sven_