BruceVC Posted December 11 Posted December 11 On 12/8/2024 at 9:14 AM, Gorth said: In the process of moving to Europe... almost finished packing things down for the removal guys. I lost 5kg the last week and a half I blame the stairs. Sooo much running up and down stairs all day long with your hands full, trying to fit your belongings into removal boxes. Moving to Europe? Are you leaving Oz, what about your citizenship Did I miss this update? "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his lossā John MiltonĀ "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.ā -Ā George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Ā Ā
Gorth Posted December 12 Posted December 12 On 12/11/2024 at 3:06 PM, BruceVC said: Moving to Europe? Are you leaving Oz, what about your citizenship Did I miss this update? Unless I become a convicted terrorist, Iām sure my citizenship(s) will stay just fine Ā More than could be said about my old workplace Ā There are plenty of jobs in Melbourne but I donāt want to live there (yes, Iām picky like that). Iāll spend a year or two in Europe while keeping an eye on QLD, seeing if something doesnāt pop up some day. Not the first time I move to Europe because of work (stayed there two years last time) 1 āHe who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.ā - Albert Einstein Ā
BruceVC Posted December 12 Posted December 12 27 minutes ago, Gorth said: Unless I become a convicted terrorist, Iām sure my citizenship(s) will stay just fine Ā More than could be said about my old workplace Ā There are plenty of jobs in Melbourne but I donāt want to live there (yes, Iām picky like that). Iāll spend a year or two in Europe while keeping an eye on QLD, seeing if something doesnāt pop up some day. Not the first time I move to Europe because of work (stayed there two years last time) Interesting, where you going to be living in EU ? I assume you working for a different company in the EU than the company in Oz? Ā You really are global citizen, I dont know anyone who has lived and worked in soĀ many countries and is comfortable doing itĀ That type of freedom must be greatĀ Ā Ā Ā 1 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his lossā John MiltonĀ "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.ā -Ā George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Ā Ā
melkathi Posted December 12 Posted December 12 If Gorth moves to Athens, I'll have to scout for places for lunch. 2 Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise).
Tale Posted December 13 Posted December 13 I'm getting into painting Warhammer figures. And by "getting into" I mean I started up a month ago, realized I needed more supplies, got sick, and am now in a position where I can finally paint again. Why is coloring plastic so inticing? 1 "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
melkathi Posted December 13 Posted December 13 Because you see immediate results. Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise).
Malcador Posted December 13 Posted December 13 Said goodbye to my 19 year old stove. The new one feels so cheaply made I think we should have just fixed the old one. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Sarex Posted December 13 Posted December 13 44 minutes ago, Malcador said: Said goodbye to my 19 year old stove. The new one feels so cheaply made I think we should have just fixed the old one. Which type? Induction, gas, Electric? "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP
Malcador Posted December 13 Posted December 13 Electric, regular old coil burners too. Management here dislikes glass tops, and I think our cast iron pots would probably break the glass top.Ā The old one was having weird oven issues, set to 350 F but it only reached 300 F or so.Ā And one burner was out of commission as well.Ā Ā Just how it goes I guess, maybe I just assume "heavier = more robust".Ā Definitely displeased with the EnerGuide rating being higher, had hoped for efficiency gains - wasn't involved in picking the model 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Sarex Posted December 13 Posted December 13 58 minutes ago, Malcador said: Electric, regular old coil burners too. Management here dislikes glass tops, and I think our cast iron pots would probably break the glass top.Ā The old one was having weird oven issues, set to 350 F but it only reached 300 F or so.Ā And one burner was out of commission as well.Ā Ā Just how it goes I guess, maybe I just assume "heavier = more robust".Ā Definitely displeased with the EnerGuide rating being higher, had hoped for efficiency gains - wasn't involved in picking the model Uf, over here those classic style, ie. no glass, are exclusively the cheapest models. Did she ever try induction? It's very efficient and very fast and very controllable. The only downside is that some of the cheaper ones turn off as soon as you lift the pans, and you need pots that work with induction. "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP
Malcador Posted December 13 Posted December 13 2 minutes ago, Sarex said: Uf, over here those classic style, ie. no glass, are exclusively the cheapest models. Did she ever try induction? It's very efficient and very fast and very controllable. The only downside is that some of the cheaper ones turn off as soon as you lift the pans, and you need pots that work with induction. Yah, needing new pots is the issue with those and cost.Ā Even the oven drawer in this one is flimsy sheet metal, sheesh.Ā One of the marketing points on this was "Made in USA", pfft. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Sarex Posted December 13 Posted December 13 6 minutes ago, Malcador said: Yah, needing new pots is the issue with those and cost.Ā Even the oven drawer in this one is flimsy sheet metal, sheesh.Ā One of the marketing points on this was "Made in USA", pfft. Much the same here with "made in Germany", doesn't mean much these days. "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP
Malcador Posted December 16 Posted December 16 New stove appears to hit the set temperatutres.Ā Isn't level though, so that's another thing I need to do.Ā The beep when it's hit the set temperature is some feeble two tone as opposed to the mighty beep of our old one.Ā Ah well, things only get worse, I suppose. Ā Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
LadyCrimson Posted December 16 Author Posted December 16 (edited) This house came with a glass top electric stove. I dislike it. It works fine, but the "this is the burner area design lines" on the glass is easily scratched and if your pot/pan isn't perfectly perfectly flat, it will wobble at the lightest handle touch and slide all over the surface so I have to keep readjusting where it's sitting. If you spill anything, it burns into black glue onto the glass surface and oven cleaner may be needed to remove it (vs. those pan things under a burner you can just replace). Can't complain tho, it was "free" (minus the cost of the house, ahem). I'm still miffed that the fridge (also "free" with the house) has two giant double doors that are apparently made of aluminum or something, meaning magnets will not stick to it. Only a little strip of the side of the fridge - because the fridge is housed within a kitchen cabinet-hole - can hold magnet-notes. Boo. Edit: my mistake, it's not the lines on the stovetop that etch, it's the glass itself. So you get unpolished look scuffs all over. Edited December 16 by LadyCrimson āThings are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.ā ā Alan Watts
Sarex Posted December 16 Posted December 16 2 hours ago, LadyCrimson said: This house came with a glass top electric stove. I dislike it. It works fine, but the "this is the burner area design lines" on the glass is easily scratched and if your pot/pan isn't perfectly perfectly flat, it will wobble at the lightest handle touch and slide all over the surface so I have to keep readjusting where it's sitting. If you spill anything, it burns into black glue onto the glass surface and oven cleaner may be needed to remove it (vs. those pan things under a burner you can just replace). Can't complain tho, it was "free" (minus the cost of the house, ahem). I'm still miffed that the fridge (also "free" with the house) has two giant double doors that are apparently made of aluminum or something, meaning magnets will not stick to it. Only a little strip of the side of the fridge - because the fridge is housed within a kitchen cabinet-hole - can hold magnet-notes. Boo. Edit: my mistake, it's not the lines on the stovetop that etch, it's the glass itself. So you get unpolished look scuffs all over. What do you clean it with? There are special cleaning solution for it, and you shouldn't use anything abrasive to scrub it with. For any spills, plastic included (ask me how I know), you use a glass top scraper to scrape it off. (just make sure to use it under a sharp angle and change the razors when damaged) You should also raise pot/pans when shaking them instead of sliding them on the glass. If the damage is already done, you can just use a polishing compound and remove most of the scratches. Miele has a cool design on its induction tops where there are little raised white bumps in the cooking zones, these prevent scratches from pots and pans. (They also offer a "diamond" finish, but I don't know how good that is) "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP
LadyCrimson Posted December 16 Author Posted December 16 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sarex said: What do you clean it with? You should also raise pot/pans when shaking them instead of sliding them on the glass. If the damage is already done, you can just use a polishing compound and remove most of the scratches. I use water sitting on the surface for while, maybe 409 or windex after, paper towels or sponge or the "nonstick scrubber" plastic side sponges. I've used the Easy-Off type oven spray oven cleaner to remove the black glue. I have never shaken/shake-slide a pan because I cook nothing that requires it (also, full pans are rather heavy for me these days). I use a wooden spoon to stir/move pan contents around and like I said, if the pan bottom is not perfectly flat/has become a bit warped, this action alone will cause the pan to "walk" across the surface eventually so it's no longer centered over the burner coils and then I pick it up and move it again. Over and over. I did recently buy a new "wok" type pan and it's flat/more stable. Most (cheaper) pans also have all that texturing on the underside/outside bottom for some reason - machined circle lines and logos, whatever. The surface was already damaged but it's grown worse since we took over, possibly due to my wobbly pans (that didn't feel wobbly on coil burners, cause you don't notice as much I guess). I can't be bothered to take a pic of my actual stovetop but this picture from reddit shows what I mean. I see videos of "do these many steps to clean or polish" and frankly I can't be bothered. It annoys me because exposed coil burners I didn't have to think/notice about such at all - but it doesn't annoy me enough and I don't care enough to fiddle with powders, polishes, razor blades or multi-steps. It is what it is. Ā Edit: to be clear, ours is not induction. Just glass over burner coils. Edited December 16 by LadyCrimson 1 āThings are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.ā ā Alan Watts
majestic Posted December 16 Posted December 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, Sarex said: Miele has a cool design on its induction tops where there are little raised white bumps in the cooking zones, these prevent scratches from pots and pans. (They also offer a "diamond" finish, but I don't know how good that is) The last couple of posts made me go over to my parents and check their Miele induction glasstop stove. Not a single scratch on the surface, no scuffed look - and my mother suffers from Parkinson's disease, so the pans and pots move a little more than they probably should. That definitely works, but they also cost an arm and a leg. Edited December 16 by majestic 1 No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering.
LadyCrimson Posted December 16 Author Posted December 16 (edited) ^ Cost is one part of the "can't be bothered" aspect - not in the sense of cleaning but in the sense of wanting super fancy cookware or appliances, which often come with more care and consideration to deal with. I like no fuss and I don't spend enough time cooking to care. Edit: and cheap-ish. For that matter, we've only bought/purchased two new large appliances in our 35+ years together, and one was only because we kind of had to to rent the other house. Did buy an ancient used fridge once, too. I think at this point in my life my rangetop preference would go like this: Gas > exposed coil > glass covered coil Ovens I like electric/convection, anything but gas, basically. Edited December 16 by LadyCrimson āThings are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.ā ā Alan Watts
Azdeus Posted December 16 Posted December 16 *Laughs in wood burning stove* 3 Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken
Gfted1 Posted December 16 Posted December 16 9 hours ago, Malcador said: The beep when it's hit the set temperature is some feeble two tone as opposed to the mighty beep of our old one. This is one of the things I dislike about my air fryer. The "preheated" and "turn food" tone is so low I literally cant hear it unless Im standing there babysitting the damn thing. So now I just set the microwave timer. 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Sarex Posted December 16 Posted December 16 5 hours ago, majestic said: The last couple of posts made me go over to my parents and check their Miele induction glasstop stove. Not a single scratch on the surface, no scuffed look - and my mother suffers from Parkinson's disease, so the pans and pots move a little more than they probably should. That definitely works, but they also cost an arm and a leg. I don't know if they have their oven too, but sliding the grill or pans out of the tracks makes an ungodly screeching sound. Also their dishwasher rusts my stainless steel... They are trying to convince me it's the chemicals I use (finish), the same I used in my previous Bosch one without any issues. If they try to convince me to use their tablets I am going to chuck it out the window... "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP
LadyCrimson Posted Monday at 08:44 PM Author Posted Monday at 08:44 PM (edited) 7 hours ago, Azdeus said: *Laughs in wood burning stove* I live in California, hence those are probably illegal, like wood burning fireplaces.Ā ...or at least, illegal to burn actual wood logs in - of course, they'd have to catch you/someone would have to report you. I'm sure such doesn't get enforced a lot. But in terms of permits to put one in a house now - not likely/full of restrictions etc. Edit: As always - if I was really into cooking I might want certain appliances. But I'm not, so I'd rather spend 5k-10k on ... computers/games/TV's etc. Priorities! Edited Monday at 08:50 PM by LadyCrimson āThings are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.ā ā Alan Watts
Azdeus Posted Monday at 09:24 PM Posted Monday at 09:24 PM 46 minutes ago, LadyCrimson said: I live in California, hence those are probably illegal, like wood burning fireplaces.Ā ...or at least, illegal to burn actual wood logs in - of course, they'd have to catch you/someone would have to report you. I'm sure such doesn't get enforced a lot. But in terms of permits to put one in a house now - not likely/full of restrictions etc. Edit: As always - if I was really into cooking I might want certain appliances. But I'm not, so I'd rather spend 5k-10k on ... computers/games/TV's etc. Priorities! But gas stoves are legal. Damn, thats more irony than said wood burning stove XD But you've got your priorities straight, that's for damn sure 1 Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken
LadyCrimson Posted Tuesday at 10:12 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 10:12 PM On 12/16/2024 at 1:24 PM, Azdeus said: But gas stoves are legal. Damn, thats more irony than said wood burning stove XD That's California for you. Wood smoke has too many larger particulates. Or something. If you buy a house here with a nice original wood burning fireplace still in existence, never ever do any renov. that would tear it down. You'd probably only get a permit for a gas-insert type thing. Not that I'm a building contractor. Just what I've read here and there. May even still vary county to county for all I know. ========= Haven't slept well in a few days (short cycles, early-waking etc). Crashed/slept 12 hours yesterday. So here I sit, wide awake again, twiddling my thumbs, wondering "What Will I Do Today?"Ā At least it's not raining. Maybe a bundled-up walk is in order. 1 āThings are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.ā ā Alan Watts
rjshae Posted Thursday at 05:48 AM Posted Thursday at 05:48 AM On 12/12/2024 at 7:42 PM, Tale said: I'm getting into painting Warhammer figures. And by "getting into" I mean I started up a month ago, realized I needed more supplies, got sick, and am now in a position where I can finally paint again. Why is coloring plastic so inticing? I used to paint miniatures and got decent at it. It usually took an evening to paint a figure to good effect. I tried painting the plastic Warhammer ones but they felt so lightweight it seemed like wasted effort. These days I enjoy 3D modelling; I just finished an altar and a mantlet. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
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