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[Malcador]

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[Pidesco]

Musk pulled out the Nazi salute, twice.

[HoonDing]

Another fun four years ahead on this pale blue dot.

[majestic]

So, the Republican Regime promised to repeal jus soli. As far as I know there is a limited set of exceptions (see United States v. Wong Kim Ark) that allow for the government to deny citizenship that will be hard to apply unless the Republican Regime designates any foreign nationals giving birth on US soil as enemy combatants or diplomats. They could probably try that with Mexicans and muslims, that would be fun to see.

I doubt they can get the 14th amendment repealed (if so you're in for a treat, because that means they could topple the 22nd as well). SCOTUS could walk back on United States v. Wong Kim Ark.

Very disappointed that they are already breaking campaign and election promises. Looks like they walked back on introducing tariffs within the first 24 hours. So sad. The US lost bigly.

[Lexx]

Jesus Christ.

[uuuhhii]

would be funny to watch usa vote to burndown itself out of spite

if the rest of the world are not going to burn with it

 

[Malcador]

1 hour ago, Pidesco said:

Musk pulled out the Nazi salute, twice.

Don't worry, is just trolling. Maybe we can get Musk to take up the lost cause of Rhodesia next

[Zoraptor]

Clearly Musk is a fan of the art of Jacques-Louis David, progenitor of the 'roman salute' in modern times, and noted French Revolutionary.

So far from being a crypto fascist this would, in point of fact, make him a crypto jacobin.

[Lexx]

Funny to see all those people trying to explain this away with "he said my heart goes out to you" and crap like that. What a dog whistle. This world is mad.

[Azdeus]

****ing insanity, and it's only just beginning.

[Sarex]

5 hours ago, Malcador said:

Well, Americans haven't started one in a while.  Gaza, Ukraine, Sudan, Tigray, etc.  aren't really on the US, though.

They did enough **** to contribute that's for sure.

5 hours ago, PK htiw klaw eriF said:

Sadly I don't think that's gonna happen, Trump is letting all the neocons run foreign policy for him and those folks aren't really known for being conflict adverse. But maybe they'll get caught up trying to bring back nfts or something and forget to bomb the middle east for a month or so.

Yeah, I think a lot of people are in for a surprise and not a good one, my country included...

[Malcador]

54 minutes ago, Sarex said:

They did enough **** to contribute that's for sure.

True enough, at least Gaza. Sudan, Tigray is just black people dying so is no biggie. It'll keep on happening though, the Game never stops.

[Malcador]

 

 

[BruceVC]

Going forward I doubt Im going to respond to the drama around Trumps presidency, like Musk being a Nazi

Im interested in the policies and outcomes that we will  see. I just dont have the energy or interest to get involved in all the  predictable SM outrage that will characterize another 4 years of Trump

Trump will be deploying the military to the border as part of securing it and he has declared the border a national emergency

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/declaring-a-national-emergency-at-the-southern-border-of-the-united-states/

This is part of his campaign promises  and I support this as an additional way to secure the border, in South Africa our military is also used to secure our border but we dont do a very good job at it 

" Section 1.  Deployment of Personnel and Resources.  The Secretary of Defense, or the Secretary of each relevant military department, as appropriate and consistent with applicable law, shall order as many units or members of the Armed Forces, including the Ready Reserve and the National Guard, as the Secretary of Defense determines to be appropriate to support the activities of the Secretary of Homeland Security in obtaining complete operational control of the southern border of the United States.  The Secretary of Defense shall further take all appropriate action to facilitate the operational needs of the Secretary of Homeland Security along the southern border, including through the provision of appropriate detention space, transportation (including aircraft), and other logistics services in support of civilian-controlled law enforcement operations." 

 

 

 

[Malcador]

I am surprised he needs to abuse the laws regarding states of emergency with a servile Congress. Well, also if there even is a need for the military to intervene.

But details.

[BruceVC]

36 minutes ago, Malcador said:

I am surprised he needs to abuse the laws regarding states of emergency with a servile Congress. Well, also if there even is a need for the military to intervene.

But details.

The current  border is an unmitigated failure around illegal migration  and if one of the steps you can take is making it more secure than deploying the military or National Guard makes sense just from a manpower perspective 

The real question is how  much of a difference will it make and what will the cost be as time goes on

Can you really secure a massive geographical area like the Mexican border? But lets wait and see 

 

 

 

[BruceVC]

29 minutes ago, Malcador said:

I am surprised he needs to abuse the laws regarding states of emergency with a servile Congress. Well, also if there even is a need for the military to intervene.

But details.

The current  border is an unmitigated failure around illegal migration  and if one of the steps you can take is making it more secure than deploying the military or National Guard makes sense just from a manpower perspective 

The real question is how  much of a difference will it make and what will the cost be as time goes on

Can you really secure a massive geographical area like the Mexican border? But lets wait and see 

 

 

 

[Malcador]

Wonder what exactly they'll do with the executive orders regarding the cartel. Bomb sites in Mexico?

[BruceVC]

6 hours ago, Malcador said:

True enough, at least Gaza. Sudan, Tigray is just black people dying so is no biggie. It'll keep on happening though, the Game never stops.

I have raised this many times through the years, the lack of outrage and interest when it comes to African conflicts and conflicts like Ukraine or Israel\Palestine 

But my criticism is not about global inconsistency, its more about the lack of interest from Africa because these conflicts have the most impact to Africa and its transformation. I dont expect the EU to care more about Sudan than Ukraine considering the obvious geographical and historical reality

And South Africa and our foreign policy efforts and energy is an example of this inconsistency 

I am being generous if I say we have 5% of the same interest in African conflicts than what we do  around Israel and Gaza and yet the latter is a conflict that isnt even in Africa and makes no difference to any of our domestic problems. But every African conflict undermines the objective of a united and functional  AU and increases both legal and illegal  migration to places like South Africa 

So you would  assume that would be our foreign policy focus because African conflicts have a direct impact to South Africa's continental geopolitical aspirations 

Then last year when you see a UNSC resolution around declaring a ceasefire in Sudan only Russia vetoed it at the UNSC because they involved in the Sudan war 

And yet no outrage or much media or public attention about this but we always hear when the US vetoes UNSC resolutions  on Israel and our government will generally comment 

But a Russian veto on an African conflict like Sudan, deafening  silence 

 

 

[BruceVC]

7 minutes ago, Malcador said:

Wonder what exactly they'll do with the executive orders regarding the cartel. Bomb sites in Mexico?

There are too many executive orders for me to focus on or understand how they will be implemented and this is one of them

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/designating-cartels-and-other-organizations-as-foreign-terrorist-organizations-and-specially-designated-global-terrorists/

I dont know if it means Trump will bomb cartels within Mexico, I doubt it considering how that will harm the Mexico relationship?