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1 hour ago, majestic said:

But surly right wingers, they not against bank profits ? Telling people they don't need to pay mortgages, surly you must agree that sounds like socialism and BLM. :teehee:

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No real "real talk" reply I can come up with.

 

I think if the recent bank collapses have taught us anything, it's that there is no such thing as a libertarian in a bank run.

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See! California is right! We all need UBI (I can settle for less than $5M) and UFH ($1 houses). Im particularly interested to see what happens in the housing option. All the homes are already owned by fatcats, so unless more land rises from the Pacific ocean or San Francisco Bay, then they are going to have to seize the properties of the existing owners to redistribute them to the needy. Probably have to go full on eminent domain on their asses and give them pennies on the dollar of its worth. Hahahahaha, suck it, fatcats. :lol:

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3 hours ago, Gfted1 said:

See! California is right! We all need UBI (I can settle for less than $5M) and UFH ($1 houses). Im particularly interested to see what happens in the housing option. All the homes are already owned by fatcats, so unless more land rises from the Pacific ocean or San Francisco Bay, then they are going to have to seize the properties of the existing owners to redistribute them to the needy. Probably have to go full on eminent domain on their asses and give them pennies on the dollar of its worth. Hahahahaha, suck it, fatcats. :lol:

In California, they could just build houses that are reasonable in size, instead of the mini-mansions they keep building and selling for millions of dollars. But they'd also have to create a decent transportation system for people, so that is definitely a pipe dream.

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On 3/26/2023 at 5:37 PM, Gorth said:

Looks like it's not just the IDF that is against Netanyahu, the defence minister now also rings the alarm bells, predicting a bad end to these attempts at taking direct control of the judicial system (to avoid prosecution)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65076682

 

"In a brief televised statement, Mr Gallant described the reform plan as a "clear, immediate and tangible danger to the security of the State".

He said members of the Israeli Defence Forces were angry and disappointed, with an intensity he had never encountered before."

Said minister of course got fired immediately, can't have anyone bringing to your attention that the soldiers on the ground is getting very wary of the government and the unhappiness is spreading in the IDF...

 

But it's not just the IDF that is a source of concern at the moment

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65097625

"Now with a nation in crisis, all sides watched for the prime minister to act.

When he finally appeared on national TV - maximising the impact with a live address at the top of the 20:00 nightly news shows - he began by likening his position to a story about King Solomon.

Just as the biblical monarch had to judge which of two competing women was the real loving mother of a baby, he had made his own decision when it came to the two sides contesting his reforms.

He announced he was pausing the judicial changes until the next session of parliament, and would "extend my hand" in "compromise" and "dialogue" with parliamentary opponents."

 

Translating from BS to English: "lets save it for a few months and hope the **** storm blows over enough to give myself legal immunity against the corruption charges."

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5 hours ago, Gorth said:

Said minister of course got fired immediately, can't have anyone bringing to your attention that the soldiers on the ground is getting very wary of the government and the unhappiness is spreading in the IDF...

 

But it's not just the IDF that is a source of concern at the moment

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-65097625

"Now with a nation in crisis, all sides watched for the prime minister to act.

When he finally appeared on national TV - maximising the impact with a live address at the top of the 20:00 nightly news shows - he began by likening his position to a story about King Solomon.

Just as the biblical monarch had to judge which of two competing women was the real loving mother of a baby, he had made his own decision when it came to the two sides contesting his reforms.

He announced he was pausing the judicial changes until the next session of parliament, and would "extend my hand" in "compromise" and "dialogue" with parliamentary opponents."

 

Translating from BS to English: "lets save it for a few months and hope the **** storm blows over enough to give myself legal immunity against the corruption charges."

Yes this has become the most divisive and unpopular legislation ever proposed in the history of Israel. The right wing has gone too far and what it wants to achieve could literally tear Israel apart and its understandable the anger because in essence the biggest problem is  it allows a simple majority of 51% in the Knesset\Parliament to override SC decisions which translates to " we dont want politicians to be accountable to the law "

Its the most absurd reality to think anyone would believe politicians should be above the law and the SC should no longer have judicial authority over them 

So Netanyahu had to pause but he needs to pause it permanently or you will see unprecedented civil unrest in Israel especially with soldiers refusing to do there military service 

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7 hours ago, Hurlshort said:

In California, they could just build houses that are reasonable in size, instead of the mini-mansions they keep building and selling for millions of dollars. But they'd also have to create a decent transportation system for people, so that is definitely a pipe dream.

States have limited budgets and priorities have to be set, at least you spending money on reparations for slavery. Thats more important than a decent transport system ?

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1 hour ago, Gfted1 said:

Yeah same here. I cant remember the last time any Chicago public transit was improved. What do you think about the Alameda base redevelopment? Sounds like they are planning new residential areas there: Base Reuse - Alameda Point (alamedaca.gov)

I don't know much about it, since I'm way down in the South Bay, but they did something similar to Fort Ord in Monterey and it turned out really well. Granted the scales of these projects are very different. 

When I was in High School, I played roller hockey at Fort Ord. The base was abandoned already, but somebody turned a warehouse into a roller rink. It was a bit of a creepy place to play, but the high school league was competitive.

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"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

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I think charging Trump for the hush money payment is a bad legal and political strategy because its going add to the hyperbole and unify his base around " Trump is being unfairly targeted,  its a political prosecution. The US is controlled by the deep state ...you see" and other rhetoric

I understand the Dems dont want him to be a  candidate but then beat  him the normal way, through the ballot box. This is  a weak attempt at backdoor political wrangling even though its a "legal " outcome 

Is there anyone on this forum who honestly believes the Manhattan D.A would be charging Trump if he wasnt running as a presidential candidate?

 

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7 minutes ago, Lexx said:

This guy and his friends belong into jail for years already.

Sure but before anyone can go to jail they need to be  found guilty in a court of law, being found guilty in the court of public opinion isnt enough

I dont want Trump running for president, he is divisive and brings a level toxicity to politics that is contagious for both parties 

But this is a mistake and a distraction. Like I asked earlier do you really think he would be charged if he wasn't  running for president ? Thats the difference between a political prosecution and a legitimate one 

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"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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didn't most super rich people involve in hundred of cases but rarely go to jail because they are rich

this certain alarm about rich people could go to jail remind of a ancient phrase

courtesy doesn't extend to peasant punishment doesn't extend to nobility

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2 hours ago, uuuhhii said:

didn't most super rich people involve in hundred of cases but rarely go to jail because they are rich

this certain alarm about rich people could go to jail remind of a ancient phrase

courtesy doesn't extend to peasant punishment doesn't extend to nobility

Thats the allegation but its depends on the crime. Even the best lawyer cant get you  off  real evidence. Look at rich people like Harvey Weinstein or Bernie Madoff. Despite there wealth they going to spend the rest of there lives in jail so it depends on the crime and evidence 

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"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Lexx said:

Even if rich people go to jail, they likely won't go to the same place as us lowly peasants.

This is true to certain degree but I also dont think white collar criminals, like insider traders, shouldn't  end up amongst gang bangers and mass murderers. Thats why you have different types of prisons in the US

One of my uncles ended up serving 7 years in  prison that was for people who commit financial fraud and similar crimes in the US. He wasnt amongst hardcore criminals 

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"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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[x] Doubt.

Besides, "we don't negotiate with terrorists" - the moment you give in and say "let's not prosecute him, because it will start a civil war", you have already lost.

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9 hours ago, uuuhhii said:

rich people will get away with very little trouble

More than likely, but there is a possibility of Trump getting a perp walk, which would be astronomically hilarious.

"Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic

"I'm gonna hunt you down so that I can slap you square in the mouth." - Bartimaeus

"Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander

"Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador

"You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort

"thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex

"Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock

"Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco

"we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii

"I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing

"feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth

"Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi

"Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor

"I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine

"Am I phrasing in the most negative light for them? Yes, but it's not untrue." - ShadySands

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3 hours ago, HoonDing said:

70 million true Amerikans stand with Drump. There will be civil war if he's sent to jail.

Can't wait for the MAGA riots.

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