The All Things Political Topic - Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics won't take an interest in you

[Malcador]

1 hour ago, Sarex said:

Hahahahahaha, that one 500 euro bill tells me that they didn't even find the half of it.

Or the cops pocketed it.

[Pidesco]

11 minutes ago, Lexx said:

At least someone gets punished for once. Makes me feel a little bit optimistic about the EU.

Yeah, the problem isn't the corruption that gets found out, it's the corruption that goes ignored.

[Gfted1]

What are you guys talking about?

[Elerond]

8 hours ago, Sarex said:

Hahahahahaha, that one 500 euro bill tells me that they didn't even find the half of it.

It maybe only legitimate bill there as 500 euro bills were discontinued in 2019

[Sarex]

13 minutes ago, Elerond said:

It maybe only legitimate bill there as 500 euro bills were discontinued in 2019

They are still in circulation and extremely popular.

[Elerond]

16 minutes ago, Sarex said:

They are still in circulation and extremely popular.

Yes, but you can't get them big sunk from bank as when someone deposit them in bank they go to be destroyed. So you would probably not see many of them used as bribes by foreign governments 

[Sarex]

20 minutes ago, Elerond said:

Yes, but you can't get them big sunk from bank as when someone deposit them in bank they go to be destroyed. So you would probably not see many of them used as bribes by foreign governments 

Those rarely (never) visit a bank. Do you really think foreign governments pick up the cash through local banks? 

[Gfted1]

Why were the 500 Euro notes taken out of circulation? Whats the highest denomination available, 100 Euro?

[Elerond]

16 minutes ago, Sarex said:

Those rarely (never) visit a bank. Do you really think foreign governments pick up the cash through local banks? 

Where they get big sunk of foreign money in cash?

[majestic]

8 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:

Why were the 500 Euro notes taken out of circulation?

It was too easy to store large amounts of money with them.  

8 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:

Whats the highest denomination available, 100 Euro?

200€, but they're so rare you sometimes have problems paying with them in stores because clerks think they're fake. The 500€ bills are still in circulation, of course, they're just taken out when they hit banks.

Edited December 13, 2022 by majestic

[Gorth]

1 hour ago, majestic said:

It was too easy to store large amounts of money with them.  

200€, but they're so rare you sometimes have problems paying with them in stores because clerks think they're fake. The 500€ bills are still in circulation, of course, they're just taken out when they hit banks.

I think the largest Aussie note I've ever seen (once) was a $100 AUD. Normally the ATM's give you $20 or $50 bills. A quick wiki check tells me there used to be a $1 note until 1966 (which replaced the 10 shilling note)

The $1 note got replaced by a $1 coin in 1984

With the current inflation, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with new $200 and $500 notes some day

2025 prediction... going shopping after payday

[Gromnir]

possible the best argument so far for support o' the marriage equality bill: do you wanna be on the side fighting against cyndi lauper?

HA! Good Fun!

[Gorth]

Dang it, now I need to go start my VPN again to watch Youtube videos

 

Edit: So, CBS doesn't like Australia. Luckily I'm now suddenly in LA, California

[Gromnir]

for those faced with same/similar obstacle as @Gorth

Cyndi Lauper Performs as President Biden Signs Respect for Marriage Act Into Law: ‘We Can Rest Easy’

When President Biden signed the act into law on the White House lawn, Lauper delivered a special performance of “True Colors” for the occasion. Sam Smith also attended for a performance of “Stay With Me.” Lauper has been a notable LGBTQ+ rights advocate for much of her career, having also founded the nonprofit organization True Colors Fund in 2008 to expand education on LGBTQ+ issues and help to end homelessness for LGBTQ+ youth.

“Now we’re allowed to love who we love — which sounds odd to say — but Americans can now love who we love,” Lauper added at the White House. “Bless Joe Biden, and all the people that worked on this, for allowing people not to worry and their children not to worry about their future.”

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HA! Good Fun!

Edited December 14, 2022 by Gromnir

[Gromnir]

Senators draft bipartisan framework to legalize DACA recipients and extend Trump-era border policy (dec. 5)

fast-forward to dec. 14

were predictable as the gop didn't wanna give democrats any kinda win on immigration. even so, is too bad even common sense immigration legislation is doomed 'cause o' politics.

HA! Good Fun!

ps a few democrats were also opposed to the legislation 'cause it would maintain, for at least a year, a few o' the less humane enforcement provisions adopted during the trump administration when dealing with those who cross the border between designated ports o' entry. 'course this were a year-end and last-ditch effort at compromise and seeing as how with the gop taking the house gavel in january, is tough to imagine a better deal anytime soon. regardless, were another shot at amnesty for dreamers wasted 'cause o' stoopid politics. 

Edited December 15, 2022 by Gromnir

[Elerond]

It seems that Musk's freedom of speech and democracy project is going well

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-suspends-journalists-covering-elon-musk-company-rcna62032
 

"Musk later joined the discussion, but briefly — getting out his talking points and then leaving abruptly. He had earlier put up a poll with a variety of options, asking whether or when he should reinstate the journalists’ accounts. When a plurality of respondents voted to restore the accounts immediately, he deleted the poll and started a new one with fewer options."

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

Edit: Just stumbled across this and laughed harder than I should have 

Edited December 16, 2022 by Make a contract with KP

[Pidesco]

2 hours ago, Make a contract with KP said:

Edit: Just stumbled across this and laughed harder than I should have 

That is a great homage to Iron Man's Demon in a Bottle classic cover. 

[Gorth]

Australia recently (like within the last week) had a "mass" shooting (by Australian standards, 6 dead people is a lot, although the perpetrators only accounted for 3 of the deaths, the 3 perpetrators making up the other half of the 6)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-63952883

The profile of the perpetrators may sound familiar to some, especially those way too familiar with gun violence. Two brothers and the wife of the older brother set a trap for police on their remote property. Created kill zones, installed surveillance cameras and then staged a phony missing person call to lure the police to their property. Four police officers showed up and not expecting anything other than to see if the person reported missing might have been seen, two of them were shot down in a hail of bullets from rapid firing, high powered rifles. A third cop got hit in the leg and managed to drag himself to the car and call for assistance while the trio chased the last cop through the bush, setting fire to the bush trying to smoke her out. A concerned elderly neighbour who saw the smoke arrived, checking if the residents were Ok with the area around them burning. They killed him too. Eventually, the reinforcements showed up and all three attackers were killed.

Sounds familiar? So does the profile of those three. Raised in a strict, religious home, "anti-vaxxers", blaming the government for the Port Arthur massacre 29 years earlier, calling it a hoax intended to take their guns away from them. Oh yeah, the online routine posting/reposting of various conspiracy theories.

RIP rookie officers (they had only just been in the force for a very short time, doing what was a routine check up)

 

 

Right wing extremism is the new big threat worldwide, not just in the US, but European countries and Australia too....

I remember the time during covid lockdown, where the instigators of anti-vaxxer campaigns and violent anti-government riots, especially in Melbourne, could be consistently traced back to local Neo-Nazi group leaders. Nothing like a bit of the good old Ultra Violence to create a breeding/recruiting ground for new members.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51621679

In a rare public address at the headquarters of the Australian Security and Intelligence Organisation (ASIO), Mr Burgess said the threat from the extreme right was real and growing.

"In suburbs around Australia, small cells regularly meet to salute Nazi flags, inspect weapons, train in combat and share their hateful ideology," he said.

 

[majestic]

But what about left-wing extremism ?

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

5 hours ago, Gorth said:

Australia recently (like within the last week) had a "mass" shooting (by Australian standards, 6 dead people is a lot, although the perpetrators only accounted for 3 of the deaths, the 3 perpetrators making up the other half of the 6)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-63952883

The profile of the perpetrators may sound familiar to some, especially those way too familiar with gun violence. Two brothers and the wife of the older brother set a trap for police on their remote property. Created kill zones, installed surveillance cameras and then staged a phony missing person call to lure the police to their property. Four police officers showed up and not expecting anything other than to see if the person reported missing might have been seen, two of them were shot down in a hail of bullets from rapid firing, high powered rifles. A third cop got hit in the leg and managed to drag himself to the car and call for assistance while the trio chased the last cop through the bush, setting fire to the bush trying to smoke her out. A concerned elderly neighbour who saw the smoke arrived, checking if the residents were Ok with the area around them burning. They killed him too. Eventually, the reinforcements showed up and all three attackers were killed.

Sounds familiar? So does the profile of those three. Raised in a strict, religious home, "anti-vaxxers", blaming the government for the Port Arthur massacre 29 years earlier, calling it a hoax intended to take their guns away from them. Oh yeah, the online routine posting/reposting of various conspiracy theories.

RIP rookie officers (they had only just been in the force for a very short time, doing what was a routine check up)

 

 

Right wing extremism is the new big threat worldwide, not just in the US, but European countries and Australia too....

I remember the time during covid lockdown, where the instigators of anti-vaxxer campaigns and violent anti-government riots, especially in Melbourne, could be consistently traced back to local Neo-Nazi group leaders. Nothing like a bit of the good old Ultra Violence to create a breeding/recruiting ground for new members.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51621679

In a rare public address at the headquarters of the Australian Security and Intelligence Organisation (ASIO), Mr Burgess said the threat from the extreme right was real and growing.

"In suburbs around Australia, small cells regularly meet to salute Nazi flags, inspect weapons, train in combat and share their hateful ideology," he said.

 

The big thing I'd disagree on is that right-wing extremism is a new threat, while increasing the organization of fascists has always been a problem since the end of WW2 (sometimes with state funding). It's definitely got a lot worse in recent years, but these guys didn't just pop up fully formed out of nowhere. Rather they're the chickens coming home to roost.

Anyways around here they're jumping on the "groomer" **** now that the anti-vax is pretty much regular policy.

I'm sure they're very fine people with reasonable concerns who just need to be sat down and compromised with.

3 hours ago, majestic said:

But what about left-wing extremism ?

You make good points

Surly every craven window breaking by BLM and antifa is worth thousands of lives ? It would be naughty to tell business owners there windows don't matter

[Gfted1]

Burglary...property damage...violent mobs...all nothingburgers. These losers really need to learn how to be squatters if they want their qq seen and heard.

[Gromnir]

2 hours ago, Make a contract with KP said:

The big thing I'd disagree on is that right-wing extremism is a new threat, while increasing the organization of fascists has always been a problem since the end of WW2 (sometimes with state funding).

@Hurlshort needs to do a better job with you kids. the embrace o' fascism decreased in the US post ww2 'cause it were inextricably linked with nazi germany, death camps and hitler. find ten people you know who can define fascism w/o using an internet search engine. 'cause fascism is admitted so difficult to nail down, we tend to use real world nazi germany and mussolini's italy as exemplars w/o having a clear notion at to what is fascism. eugenics, a cornerstone o' the nazi brand o' fascism, were an american export to europe and the 1924 immigration act, designed to keep out undesirables such as italians and eastern european jews, were an inspiration for euro fascists.

https://www.pbs.org/wnet/americanmasters/walter-winchell-nazi-rally-cbn5kx/15892/

not shocking, ww2 resulted in a bit o' bad press for would be fascists in the US and any kinda authoritarianism were, for a time, rightful vilified by the majority o' americans. yeah, american fascists existed before there were a word for fascism, and ww2 didn't end the existence o' such, but the defeat o' authoritarian regimes reflexive identified as fascist sure resulted in a chilling effect on fascist recruitment here in the states... for a time.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/viktor-orban-american-conservatism-admiration/671205/

see, the thing is, just as kp's history is wonky, most americans don't know what is fascism, or communism or even socialism. is a fail o' education which is gonna require decades to fix. fascism is bad, every american knows that. so if Bob is an avid fox viewer and tucker carlson is telling him 'bout the benefits o' testicle tanning, the righteousness o' a war on wokeism and how fantasmagorical is orban's hungary, then maybe Bob is less able to recognize the warning signs o' fascism, yes? 

as is so often the case, the solution starts with education. 'course the hard right conservatives is the folks fighting tooth and nail in local school boards across the country to change how kids is being taught. unlike most western nations, local level politics is far more relevant when it comes to education, which is why southerner history textbooks will baffle a minnesota or illinois reader.  

HA! Good Fun!

 

Edited December 19, 2022 by Gromnir

[Malcador]

8 hours ago, majestic said:

But what about left-wing extremism ?

Indeed, the leftist version of McVeigh is going to show up soon.

[Gfted1]

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