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Screenshot 2: Avowed - Jason Schreier

 

Recently, Jason Schreier (notable games journalist) stated the quote in screenshot 1 claiming Avowed's development is going through some rough patches. He also posted the tweet on screenshot 2, but recently deleted his post. it seems he was correct in his claims regarding Avowed not showcasing in this year's Xbox Games Showcase. What are your thoughts on this?

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As someone who cares for this project not only because it might be a game I like, but an extention of an IP that I like - I am worried of course. I hoped that Obsidian had a pretty good idea of what they want to do with IP, though honestly reasons for reboots could be many. It is disappointed after constantly hearing reports that Avowed is progressing well. I am mostly disappointed because I genuilly expected to see Avowed today on the showcase.

At the same time, like with delays, it is better to do a course correction, then release something fundamentally not fun. Good luck and my best wishes to the dev team. I shall be waiting for the news.

If you want to scrap Avowed and do proper Pillars of Eternity3 I won't complain 😉

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13 minutes ago, Ordo! said:

No I don't think so, the reboot happened at the end of 2020, when Carrie Pattel became Game Director.

Weird.  I thought they had said it was moving along smoothly last year... which would be after the reboot.  Although who knows where I even heard that

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16 hours ago, Theonlygarby said:

Weird.  I thought they had said it was moving along smoothly last year... which would be after the reboot.  Although who knows where I even heard that

Maybe it isn't a big reboot, we don't know because we don't have any infos about this game.

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17 hours ago, Theonlygarby said:

Weird.  I thought they had said it was moving along smoothly last year... which would be after the reboot.  Although who knows where I even heard that

This was exactly what I was going to say too. Even as recently as this April the big Xbox head guy said multiple times Avowed was coming along great and he was looking forward to revealing more about the game. So what happened since April?

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1 hour ago, kanisatha said:

This was exactly what I was going to say too. Even as recently as this April the big Xbox head guy said multiple times Avowed was coming along great and he was looking forward to revealing more about the game. So what happened since April?

It is still possible we will see something on a later date - like Game Awards.

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I remember avalone saying that the original director (forget his name now) when working on alpha protocol was a nightmare to work with.  Changing and adding things constantly.  So maybe that was why they decided to change to Carrie. That being said, Chris seems to talk a lot of crap about ex coworkers so who knows.

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5 hours ago, kanisatha said:

This was exactly what I was going to say too. Even as recently as this April the big Xbox head guy said multiple times Avowed was coming along great and he was looking forward to revealing more about the game. So what happened since April?

Maybe nothing bad. That it wasn't on the show only means it's not going to be finished in the next 12 months.
Maybe they hit a wall again...
Maybe switching to Unreal 5 took more work than they thought.

Kate Dollarhyde was the Narrative Lead on Avowed and she also worked on Pentiment.
Unfortunately she left Obsidian, too - a month ago or so.
I think the main bulk of P's narrative part is done by now so I guess her departure didn't hurt P.
But for Avowed...? It could mean they have to find a new narrative lead
Or it could mean the narrative part of Avowed's development is mostly done like with Pentiment.

Who knows? :)

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40 minutes ago, Boeroer said:

Maybe nothing bad. That it wasn't on the show only means it's not going to be finished in the next 12 months.
Maybe they hit a wall again...
Maybe switching to Unreal 5 took more work than they thought.

Kate Dollarhyde was the Narrative Lead on Avowed and she also worked on Pentiment.
Unfortunately she left Obsidian, too - a month ago or so.
I think the main bulk of P's narrative part is done by now so I guess her departure didn't hurt P.
But for Avowed...? It could mean they have to find a new narrative lead
Or it could mean the narrative part of Avowed's development is mostly done like with Pentiment.

Who knows? :)

Fair enough. I also did know about the switch to UE5, and Dollarhyde's departure (the job posting for a replacement is still up so I'm guessing the position's not yet been filled).

Maybe I can be mollified if part of the development delays involves adding in third-person perspective into the game. ;)

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This is Matt Hansen's Twitter:
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He is the (very nice) art director of Obsidian and only recently changed his profile name to the one you can see above. Since I guess that there's no other Eora related project in the works atm I assume that this means Awoved is not dead. 

 

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Can not Imagine micro will pass this chance of an pc and xbox only title. Beside I thought a new poe3 without Internet and with offline lan like the good old baldurs gate and the new baldurs gate 3 would be far more fill a wish for fans. Poe3 should be no next elder scrolls online, instead build on its dirty character of discriminative, sklavery and mystery world of crime or freedom.

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Sounds a bit like a game without a plan, other than we would like to make a game in our own setting, that isn't an isometric game, but not much decided after that... i.e. no "vision" that the team is eager to implement.

Would it be better to release in a state like Alpha Protocol (lots of individual ideas that just doesn't mesh to make a whole game) or rather drop it entirely?

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