Malcador Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Pidesco said: Generally a nice quote for Libertarians. Green Mars has a better one Even if you want no state, or a minimal state, then you still have to argue it point-by-point. Especially since most minimalists want to keep exactly the economic and police system that keeps them privileged. That's libertarians for you--anarchists who want police protection from their slaves. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 I can’t imagine there is any other political philosophy out there that seems to annoy people as much as libertarianism. Imagine a society where you can do what you like, get married whom ever you like, do what you like in the home and property that you exclusively own, do what you will with the body that is exclusively yours, keep most of the money that you earn and do what you wish with it, and the only restrictions on you is not to hurt, steal from, or otherwise infringe on anyone else. Who would want to live in a hell like that? "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 As always it's the people not the philosophy, Robinson wasn't too far off at least thinking of the few libertarians I've run into over the years. Basically their practice of it is "**** you, I got mine". Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 "hurr durr" "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 I can't remember the full quote, but a couple of years back I saw an interview about political change with a guy who used to be a very gung-ho libertarian. The basic concept he gave was that he stopped being a libertarian because something happened in his life and he realised he actually needed to care about people other than himself. It's going to bug me now because I can't remember the rest of the context. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted August 25, 2021 Author Share Posted August 25, 2021 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gorth Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 The tl;dr; version of humans 3 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 4 “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 On 8/21/2021 at 11:51 AM, Malcador said: What they tell us about raises at work Says the guy who died slowly and painfully of a stone blockage in the urinary track and wished he did not. "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Guard Dog said: I've found it interesting that the majority of Physics PhD's I've met are firm believers in a God (of one brand or another), while the majority of Chemistry PhD's are firmly in the atheistic side of thought. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I’m pretty sure engineers believe in God. I have heard many say “oh God please let this work“ 5 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 I thought engineers prayed to Murphy? "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 52 minutes ago, Raithe said: I thought engineers prayed to Murphy? I think it's more like Satan, you acknowledge his existence and then pray he doesn't acknowledge yours. 1 Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 If you ask me Sowell is the smartest person alive right now. 4 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted August 28, 2021 Author Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) For the discussion points... Or is dystopian fiction just grim satire? Edited August 28, 2021 by Raithe 1 1 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gromnir Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 8 hours ago, Guard Dog said: If you ask me Sowell is the smartest person alive right now. well, he has pretty much written the same book a few dozen times, changing little more than the cover and title page, nevertheless he keeps getting paid, so he is clear doing something right. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsaneCommander Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 'cause am certain somebody was eventually gonna link. HA! Good Fun! 2 1 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Gromnir said: well, he has pretty much written the same book a few dozen times, changing little more than the cover and title page, nevertheless he keeps getting paid, so he is clear doing something right. HA! Good Fun! Sounds like but Bethesda has done with Skyrim 2 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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