Chilloutman Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 not surprised, but not forgot that not only idiots play games, sometimes they are just kids as well I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marelooke Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 17 hours ago, Keyrock said: A side benefit of not having purchased anything from EA in nearly a decade (not because of some ethical or political stance, I just don't have interest in games they publish) is that this news doesn't matter to me at all. Didn't EA provide installers of some sort before forcing everyone onto Origin though? I kinda remember being salty about that one (that and buying a disc version of ME3 only to be forced onto Origin, Half Life 2/Skyrim all over again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 15 hours ago, injurai said: But can it see why kid's love Cinnamon Toast Crunch™? Yes. It has been determined that they "crave those crazy squares". "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melkathi Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Steam looks all new. I'll have to get used to that. Unobtrusively informing you about my new ebook (which you should feel free to read and shower with praise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 https://www.dsogaming.com/news/diablo-4-details-leaked-prior-to-official-reveal-darker-and-grittier-will-be-similar-in-style-to-diablo-2/ "Diablo 4 is going to look dark, gritty and gross. Locations will be toned down, infrequently laid with corpses, wasteland, grey-ish deserts, clut caves surrounded by flesh, rotten crypts, marshes and bogs, as well as plagued cities. These levels will be larger than Diablo 3’s levels. Characters will now be able to ride horses (possibly other mounts) and there might be contextual interaction with environment. Blood splatters will also look more like blood and not splashed jam." 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 Just now, Malcador said: https://www.dsogaming.com/news/diablo-4-details-leaked-prior-to-official-reveal-darker-and-grittier-will-be-similar-in-style-to-diablo-2/ "Diablo 4 is going to look dark, gritty and gross. Locations will be toned down, infrequently laid with corpses, wasteland, grey-ish deserts, clut caves surrounded by flesh, rotten crypts, marshes and bogs, as well as plagued cities. These levels will be larger than Diablo 3’s levels. Characters will now be able to ride horses (possibly other mounts) and there might be contextual interaction with environment. Blood splatters will also look more like blood and not splashed jam." Well horray they finally figured out what fans wanted from get go with D3. Now I will have hard time passing this one I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) Never did understand why D3 wasn't seen as dark or gritty. Running around corpses and torture implements seemed pretty grimdark enough, the temple region they added in...uh, Act 2 ? has oceans of blood too. Edited October 31, 2019 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) It not about what is displayed but how its displayed Edited October 31, 2019 by Chilloutman I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) It was and still is a nonsense argument. The difference was dynamic lighting. The sprites always looked darker and more shadowed in comparison because the lighting didn't change them. That is literally the single only thing that makes D3 look less dark and murky and it is an objective improvement. It was such a "muh nostolgia glasses" nonsense argument. "Oh no, my character doesn't look as grimdark edgy when it stands next to a literal spotlight! What a crime!" Other than the deserts in Act 2 and literal heaven, everything in D3 is as dark or darker in D3 than it was in D2. Anyone who claims otherwise is straight up intentionally lying to you. There are many things wrong with D3, but this wasn't one if them. If anything, it was far too slavishly loyal to recreating the previous games. Anyway, "levels will be bigger in D4 than D3" is an awful move. D3's maps were ridiculously huge and exploring them is a chore. Edited October 31, 2019 by TrueNeutral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBrown Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 One of the reasons D1/2 might have seemed darker etc is also just worse graphics. More details makes stuff less scary, but you can't really make an AAA game with bad graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 12 minutes ago, TrueNeutral said: It was and still is a nonsense argument. The difference was dynamic lighting. The sprites always looked darker and more shadowed in comparison because the lighting didn't change them. That is literally the single only thing that makes D3 look less dark and murky and it is an objective improvement. It was such a "muh nostolgia glasses" nonsense argument. Other than the deserts in Act 2 and literal heaven, everything in D3 is as dark or darker in D3 than it was in D2. Anyone who claims otherwise is straight up intentionally lying to you. If thats true why they are going to make D4 more dark? Does not compute. Thing is D3 was cartoony with strange color palette. You can disagree but it does not change that fact. But stating that D3 is darker than D2 is pure nonsense. Just from the fact that D2 still got light radius... I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) Dude, once you move out of the starting area into the mainstay dungeons, D2 looks like this. What has a strange color palette? Plus, as you can see D3 still uses vignetting (which you refer to as light radius) and uses it pretty much all game except for heaven in act 4, while D2 actually only uses in select zones. You need to go back and actually play D2. Now if you were using D1 as an example I'd buy it. That game was a lot darker aesthetically. D3 gets this accusation for some reason, but D2 was actually when Blizzard's oversaturated color palette hit the series with a bat. The terrible lava tiles were as bright as that first game got. Why are they going to make D4 "more dark"? Because people bitched at D3 constantly while not knowing what they were talking about. It's lip service, it's not actually going to be darker. Edited October 31, 2019 by TrueNeutral 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) So all they need to do is crank down the gamma. Edited October 31, 2019 by Malcador 2 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, Chilloutman said: Oh come on, you can do better than that. That's an extra darkened cellar vignette level. D3 has those too. Talk about cherry picking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 i will stop there, we are beating a dead horse. I dont like how D3 looks and you clearly do. I hope D4 will look more to my liking. End of story I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 (edited) Fair, but to be clear you misunderstand me. As seen in my arguments, I actually don't like it at all, because it looks exactly as garbage as D2. I don't see how you can like one and not the other because they are the same. 1 hour ago, TrueNeutral said: If anything, it was far too slavishly loyal to recreating the previous games. 1 hour ago, TrueNeutral said: D3 gets this accusation for some reason, but D2 was actually when Blizzard's oversaturated color palette hit the series with a bat. Edited October 31, 2019 by TrueNeutral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 misread that, but I don't agree that they look similar. D3 is cartoonish to me. D2 not at all, but I think we can agree we want D1 back 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 I was getting the JA itch, and stumbled across some recent articles written by Vice on the Jagged Alliance series: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/mb88wa/20-years-later-jagged-alliance-2-remains-an-irreplaceable-tactics-game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 The Red Dead Redemption 2 PC pre-load is available now on the Rockstar Launcher, by the way. There's 109gb to download, so I'd say doing the pre-load is a good idea. 1 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 36 minutes ago, Lexx said: The Red Dead Redemption 2 PC pre-load is available now on the Rockstar Launcher, by the way. There's 109gb to download, so I'd say doing the pre-load is a good idea. Ah woe to us with bandwidth caps. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted October 31, 2019 Share Posted October 31, 2019 anyone tried Crossroads Inn, looks kinda like nice small sim but I would like some hands on reactions https://www.gog.com/game/crossroads_inn_artisan_edition I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) And there's Diablo 4. Going back to its dark roots, apparently. So Maximum Grimderp Cool trailer as well. Edited November 1, 2019 by Malcador 4 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Hahaha, Maximum Grimderp! Accurate, but cautiously optimistic. That Hong Kong apology was nothing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) The gameplay trailer looked ok. People still bitching it's not dark though. I blame 40k and people taking all the skulls and **** seriously for this. As for the WoW trailer...I guess I just hate Sylvanas as a character so much that's colouring my reception of it. Edited November 1, 2019 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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