Good Old Games still good

[Chilloutman]

5 hours ago, Gorth said:

Bought Adeptus Mechanicus on GOG a moment ago (together with the Heretek expansion). Both of them between 50 and 65 percent off depending on edition (got the Omnissiah version). Let the galaxy feel the wrench of judgement!

 

[Mamoulian War]

Drakensang finally released on GOG. I like it more than NWN2 OC, when it was released, just the rules can be little bit complicated sometimes

https://www.gog.com/news/release_drakensang

[LadyCrimson]

Does GoG Galaxy have "native" controller support with games or do you still often need 3rd party to get them to work?  Because it sure didn't work with Outer Worlds when not using Galaxy.

 

[bugarup]

Ah, Drakensang, the game that makes Divinity's and Kingmaker's world building look fresh and iconoclastic and shames the peg-legged-zombie-amble party speed of said two games into Zootopia's sloth oblivion.

...and yet I look at those char sheets and vaguely NWN2-y screenshots and feel tempted to buy it. Sigh.

[Mamoulian War]

1 hour ago, LadyCrimson said:

Does GoG Galaxy have "native" controller support with games or do you still often need 3rd party to get them to work?  Because it sure didn't work with Outer Worlds when not using Galaxy.

 

I am sorry but I do not know. I have special controller, which supports both legacy and modern input methods, so I have never checked if Galaxy has native support or not, all I need to do is click one button on controller and everything works.

[Zoraptor]

2 hours ago, Mamoulian War said:

Drakensang finally released on GOG. I like it more than NWN2 OC, when it was released, just the rules can be little bit complicated sometimes

Took a while, it was in the 2016 (?) GOG teaser trailer.

Weirdly enjoyable game Drakensang, I have quite a soft spot for it despite it being almost entirely generic and cliché. River of Time is the one I'm waiting for though.

[LadyCrimson]

3 hours ago, Mamoulian War said:

I am sorry but I do not know. I have special controller, which supports both legacy and modern input methods, so I have never checked if Galaxy has native support or not, all I need to do is click one button on controller and everything works.

Sounds like a convenient controller, wish I had one. 

[majestic]

20 hours ago, LadyCrimson said:

Does GoG Galaxy have "native" controller support with games or do you still often need 3rd party to get them to work?  Because it sure didn't work with Outer Worlds when not using Galaxy.

That depends entirely on your controller and the game, and the API used. Most games (on Windows) use DirectInput or XInput and some controllers come without support for one or the other, or should work but often don't - that's why it's such a hassle to get the DS3 to work on a PC (although I to this day don't know why anyone would want their thumbs killed by that D-"pad" or the horrible analog stick placements, but to each their own) and the Nintendo Pro has some issues as well.

That's why you need to use some form of third party software to map inputs and translat them into someting the game understands. Steam handles that when it is running. If Outer Worlds supports your controller when Galaxy is running but not when it isn't then Galaxy does the same thing as Steam. I'm pretty sure it didn't in the past though. At least not with my Nintendo Pro.

The actual solution to that problem is getting an XBox Elite. That works with virtually everyone just out of the box. With or without third party software.

 

[Mamoulian War]

If XBox Elite is to expensive, I have Speedlink Strike NX wired controller. It supports both DirectInput and XInput. It also works on PS3. It cost me 20EUR and works like a charm.

Edited November 26, 2020 by Mamoulian War

[LadyCrimson]

^  I don't like xbox design/the way the joysticks aren't on the same "line" - makes me hold it not evenly, plus they're fatter. Small hands/short fingers + thumb/forefinger grip arthritis. Xbox makes the arthritis hurt a lot more.  The way they changed the PS5 controller to be fatter and look more like xbox in a way, didn't make me happy. 

The Speedlink looks more my speed, it's $35 on Amazon I think.  Hm.  I'm guessing some of the center touchpad functions of the ps4 one wouldn't work with it but would work for most games.  Might try it, thanks.  Edit:  actually seller prices vary from $8-$45.  I can't tell the difference. 

EditEdit: Is this the one?  https://www.amazon.com/Speedlink-Strike-Ergonomic-Gamepad-Black/dp/B01N9HJO8I

Edited November 26, 2020 by LadyCrimson

[majestic]

1 hour ago, LadyCrimson said:

^  I don't like xbox design/the way the joysticks aren't on the same "line"

That's the whole point why I'm using an Xbox controller and my Nintendo Pro. I have really long fingers and my thumbs constantly get tangled up while using a Dual Shock controller. If I don't want to "angle" my thumbs all the time on most modern controllers that means my thumbs are resting on the thumbstick halfway between the tips and my hand. So kind of in the middle of my thumbs. They're close to touching even on an Xbox gamepad.

I press the A + B buttons the same way. The only exception was the original XBox controller. But that thing was just uncomfortable to hold and way too heavy.

 

This is usually the point where some Sony fanboy shows up and tells me I'm holding the controller wrong and that's why the Dual Shock is uncomfortable. Not because it has a trash D-Pad and thumbsticks that are way too close to each other because a) Sony didn't want to pay royalties for having a real D-Pad on their original Playstation controller and b) they had to ape thumbsticks from us Master Race people (or Nintendo with the N64 controller) after they noticed that they're a really good idea for games requiring precise input and it was the only place they could put them in on the original design.

To be honest the best gamepad I've ever used was the Gamecube one. The button and thumbstick spacing was really good, it was comfortable enough to hold, light and pretty robust. There's an adaptor for the Switch and new versions that can be used on the PC but... it's probably not worth the hassle (plus only Smash Bros is really officially supported on the Switch, I think).

Edited November 26, 2020 by majestic

[Mamoulian War]

2 hours ago, LadyCrimson said:

^  I don't like xbox design/the way the joysticks aren't on the same "line" - makes me hold it not evenly, plus they're fatter. Small hands/short fingers + thumb/forefinger grip arthritis. Xbox makes the arthritis hurt a lot more.  The way they changed the PS5 controller to be fatter and look more like xbox in a way, didn't make me happy. 

The Speedlink looks more my speed, it's $35 on Amazon I think.  Hm.  I'm guessing some of the center touchpad functions of the ps4 one wouldn't work with it but would work for most games.  Might try it, thanks.  Edit:  actually seller prices vary from $8-$45.  I can't tell the difference. 

EditEdit: Is this the one?  https://www.amazon.com/Speedlink-Strike-Ergonomic-Gamepad-Black/dp/B01N9HJO8I

Yes, I think this is the one, I have the PS button version. If I hold the MODE button for few seconds, it changes from DirectInput to XInput and vice versa. I do not remeber, wich one is the default though  

 

Edit: yes, the last picture shows that it supports both DirectInput and Xinput.

Edited November 27, 2020 by Mamoulian War

[the_dog_days]

On 11/25/2020 at 1:29 PM, Zoraptor said:

Weirdly enjoyable game Drakensang, I have quite a soft spot for it despite it being almost entirely generic and cliché. River of Time is the one I'm waiting for though.

The derpiness of the prospector dwarf makes the entire first game worth playing by itself.

[Mamoulian War]

If anyone still does not own Batman Arkham Quadrilogy, it was released today on GOG.

https://www.gog.com/news/discover_the_best_batman_games_on_gogcom

[Mamoulian War]

Solasta: Crown of the Magister, an DnD RPG, which I am really anticipating a lot, has been announced on GOG as coming soon

 

https://www.gog.com/news/coming_soon_solasta_crown_of_the_magister

[Chilloutman]

48 minutes ago, Mamoulian War said:

Solasta: Crown of the Magister, an DnD RPG, which I am really anticipating a lot, has been announced on GOG as coming soon

 

https://www.gog.com/news/coming_soon_solasta_crown_of_the_magister

still early access?

[Oner]

2 minutes ago, Chilloutman said:

still early access?

Yup.

[melkathi]

GOGkey for Seven: Enhanced Edition free on Humble

[LadyCrimson]

On 11/26/2020 at 5:19 PM, Mamoulian War said:

Edit: yes, the last picture shows that it supports both DirectInput and Xinput.

It was delivered a bit ago. Finally downloaded the driver to try it out.  Seems to work, no muss no fuss. A bit lighter weight than the ps4 one (since no wireless battery in it I'd guess), feels ok in my hands for short periods at least.  Dunno how durable it will be, but good enough for using with non-Steam games when I want/need. Thanks!

[Mamoulian War]

Glad to be of help

Edit: before starting gaming with the gamepad, I recommend you to install both drivers needed. First one will install automatically after first plugin, and the second one should install after holding the MODE button for few seconds and releasing it. Just dont press it before the first driver installs sucessfully

Edited December 7, 2020 by Mamoulian War

[Tale]

On 11/27/2020 at 1:11 AM, the_dog_days said:

The derpiness of the prospector dwarf makes the entire first game worth playing by itself.

I have no choice but to finally finish it now! Drakensang has been in my queue to play since before 2009. I always start and play a couple hours and put it down. Might have to tough through that intro.

[the_dog_days]

1 hour ago, Tale said:

I have no choice but to finally finish it now! Drakensang has been in my queue to play since before 2009. I always start and play a couple hours and put it down. Might have to tough through that intro.

Edited December 8, 2020 by the_dog_days

[Mamoulian War]

Solasta In Development now also on GOG.

https://www.gog.com/news/in_development_solasta_crown_of_the_magister

[Oner]

Le Winter Sale hath beguneth.
Verily!

[Zoraptor]

Meanwhile...

It's not so much the kowtowing to Xinnie the Pooh which is the problem- well, it is, though as a business it's certainly at least understandable them not wanting to alienate China- it's thinking that anyone would buy the 'many gamer messages' line.