Endre's Flog of Obedience seems to be missing from the game

[JPK]

Hi,

 

Endre's Flog of Obedience is missing from the game as of the latest version from Steam. Katrenn dropped that thing in my first playthrough (also stated in the wiki), but now in my second playthrough I killed her and the constructs three times in a row and there was no flail to be found. She only drops her grimoire, her head and some random stuff (I pick pocketed the map piece earlier). Has the flail been moved to some other location or is this a bug? Any workarounds if it's bugged? 

 

I got the ring from the Imp and the amulet from Lady Epero without problems. I haven't tried killing Torkar yet in my current playthrough. Wiki says that he should drop a decent belt (The Maker's Own Power), but I have no recollection of ever seeing that belt during my first playthrough back when the game was released. Maybe I missed it because of a similar bug... I remember that I pick pocketed his map piece before killing him as I did now with Katrenn. Can stealing break inventories/drops for NPCs?

[omgFIREBALLS]

I killed these two very recently (probably yesterday) and got their sweet loots. Sometimes I don't actually see it on the ground but it does end up in my inventory when I mass loot. Have you checked? Else you might be on to something with your pickpocketing theory.

[JPK]

Nope, the flail doesn't appear in the loot window or in my inventory/stash after selecting "loot all". I could just use "GiveItem" command to get the flail since this might get fixed in one months' time or not at all. The relevant loot tables could be corrupted in my save files. 

 

I know that using cheats will disable steam achievements (don't care), but will it also disable the ability to gain those Berathian Blessing points? In my first playthrough I had to use console commands to fix bugs like missing BotEP parts etc. I also used a crude hack to prevent in game achievements from getting disabled just in case, but that probably won't work anymore. Does Cheat Engine or Unity Console work with Deadfire 4.01?

[Boeroer]

Unity Console.

 

You won't get Berath's Blessings with a "cheated" game (using the built-in console with iroll20s).

[JPK]

Tried Unity Console, doesn't seem to work properly with 4.0.1. I guess I'll be rolling 20s then...

[SChin]

Hello JPK!

 

Thank you for letting us know about this issue.  I put a report together and assigned it to the Area Design team for an investigation.  I also added the flail to your Wacher's inventory and removed the achievement blocker from the save since I had to cheat the item into your inventory.  You should see the updated save file attached the email I sent back.  If you run into any other issues like this, please don't hesitate to reach out to us again.

 

Thank you for the help and sorry for the inconvenience this caused.

[Karnelian]

Bug still present. Savegame prior to waiting for the spawn sent (reproducible on my end).

[thelee]

Bug still present. Savegame prior to waiting for the spawn sent (reproducible on my end).

 

i just killed katrenn last night and got her loot. are you using anything special during the fight that might affect loot tables (essence interrupter, for example)

[Boeroer]

I suspect Essence Interrupter as well. It works very well against the constructs so the chances are high that it has been used.

[Waski]

@Karnelian Did you kill her when she was using summoned weapon? I had similar problems with her and Ecccea. But killing them before they summon negated that problem completely.

Edited March 24, 2019 by Waski

[Karnelian]

@Karnelian Did you kill her when she was using summoned weapon? I had similar problems with her and Ecccea. But killing them before they summon negated that problem completely.

 

That sounds possible (haven't checked for that, summon would appear in buff list iirc ?). No Essence Interrupter (reported issues with the weapon caused me to completely avoid it). Only ranged is Serafen with Hand Mortar. Of the top of my head I typically nuke her as fast as I can (3 or 4 tries) and mop up the constructs slooowly (some underpenetration issues).

[thelee]

@Karnelian Did you kill her when she was using summoned weapon? I had similar problems with her and Ecccea. But killing them before they summon negated that problem completely.

 

that makes extreme sense to me, i wouldn't put it past the game to forget about weapon loot with summoned weapons. when I killed katrenn I managed to do it while she didn't have citzal's lance summoned.

[DiabloStorm]

 

@Karnelian Did you kill her when she was using summoned weapon? I had similar problems with her and Ecccea. But killing them before they summon negated that problem completely.

 

that makes extreme sense to me, i wouldn't put it past the game to forget about weapon loot with summoned weapons. when I killed katrenn I managed to do it while she didn't have citzal's lance summoned.

 

Jesus christ, the amount of metagame information one needs in order to have the game go the way they want it to....never would have known about this without reading. Really ridiculous that the game has been left in this state. Game isn't friendly at all to people that don't want to dig for info.

[Boeroer]

That's a weird oversight.

 

I thought they learned how to handle that summoning stuff after the permanent Draining Touch/Citzal's Armory bug.

[BRUNO NEVES OLIVEIRA]

I had the same problem. I was looking forward for that flog... damn! Nothing dropped but her head and the grimoire and a few useless stuff.

[Helz]

This happened to me on version 5.0.0.0040 (latest build). Unfortunately, I knew nothing about the flail at the time, so I didn't reload.

[I5 20VT]

This is still a thing. I looted the flail the first time I killed Katrenn. But after the fight I noticed that I that the city guards were hostile towards me, I accidentally must have killed a civilian or damaged a guard during the fight.

I reloaded and killed Katrenn again, but no flail. I tried to load a save further back but alas still no flail. I´m on the Steam version 5.0.0.0040 on PC if that matters. Quite annoying this

Edit: I went back further in the save files and loaded. I got the flail then from Katrenn, not optimal but I got it. Annoying that this bug still is in the game after all this time.

Edited July 19, 2022 by I5 20VT

[Kvellen]

Yeah it seems like this Katrenn dying with a summoned weapon equipped is the cause of this.

While I don't know if this'll ever be something that can easily be fixed, I have created a modscript that'll at least addresses this issue.

flog drop fix.zip