Cinéma vérité - and all other types

[SonicMage117]

 

Meh. It's like Metal Gear meets No One Lives Forever, based of the comics though, wonder if it'll actually be good.

[Gfted1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GX33bIOA5aA

[Lexx]

Trailer needs more inception zooms.

[Gfted1]

If Thanos killed half of the living beings in the universe, why dont any plants or animals die?

[Amentep]

Even Thanos isn't crazy enough to cross PETA?

[SonicMage117]

As a comic nerd, not too excited for it. Brei Larson isn't that great of an actor compared to other Marvel actors/actresses which have been outdone by CW's talents.

 

I am hoping for Next Avengers to break this curse. There's hope

Edited January 9, 2019 by SonicMage117

[Volourn]

Bumblebee - Good fun.  Haliee Steinfeld nailed her role.

 

 

New Captain Marvel Trailer - Way better than the first one. Still, Larson seems way off. Like she is trying way too hard to come across as bad ass  and tough. WW and BW (despite having no super powers) managed this way more naturally.

Edited January 9, 2019 by Volourn

[SonicMage117]

Bumble Bee is a great movie, that much I agree and everyone I've talked to who's actually seen it loves it because it harkens to the 80's G1 roles but even surpasses that. Hailee has been so undereated in music and movies but seems like she's finally getting some recognition.

 

And yeah, Brei's role in Captain Marvel does definitely feel forced. I found it similar to John Krasinski's forced role in Jack Ryan but that said, I will still watch both because I'm a fan of the franchises. Johnny Depp as Grindlewald was one of the least natural pairings in years. BUT those things aside and being a fan of the MCU movies, if I don't see it and the post ending, I'm likely to have some plot holes for other future movies (as DC and Marvel movies tend to do). That's where they get ya

 

Maybe that's why Brei seems like she is such a bad actress to me, maybe she just hasn't found that role that fits her just right - but I already know that role won't be Captain Marvel.

 

DC just seems to have that edge over Marvel, which makes the acting in shows and movies superior in every every respect. Most recently, Jason Momoa being in Stargate Atlantis years ago helps that naturalistic process to come to fruition. Gal Gadot was a real life Wonder Woman in every sense of the phrase, serving in the Isreali Army while also being Ms. Israel and a combat specialist, if you look at the youtube video of combat training called Brei Larson vs Gal Gadot, then you'll see who is more naturally handling these tasks as well. Well those are, of course just a couple real life examples.

 

I am not skeptical but cautious here, I will be going to see the movie and it will likely be great just know that Brei wasn't the best choice but who knows, I may as well just get used to this as every other person Marvel/Disney has assigned to act as or in part to - shall we say.

Edited January 9, 2019 by SonicMage117

[injurai]

Bree is just a charismatic alpha-female. Don't shy.

[Amentep]

I hate to be 'that guy', but it is Brie, not Bree.

[injurai]

Brie is a cheese columbo

[Amentep]

And that's also how she shortens her name.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/brielarson/status/1082517236789633024?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

[SonicMage117]

My bad lol Fixed that!

[Pidesco]

I wouldn't call it fixed.

[Raithe]

It's one of those slightly quirky things that in any interview with Mamoa, no-one ever seems to mention Stargate Atlantis, and just jump to Game of Thrones as to what made him an actor. However, he was on the Graham Norton show recently, and he mentioned that he found out he was going to be playing Aquaman back in 2013 and he was utterly broke at the time. A little later, Graham brought up his role on Game of Thrones, and man, Mamoa's expression just hit a slightly broken look and he made a comment about how while he put a lot of effort into playing that role, it basically destroyed his career at the time because he couldn't get any work after that, in part due to how many people thought he couldn't actually speak English.

[SonicMage117]

I wouldn't call it fixed.

What would you call it then? An opinion different than yours?

[Blarghagh]

 

I wouldn't call it fixed.

What would you call it then? An opinion different than yours?

No, you changed it to say Brei instead of Brie over and over. Not everyone is out to get you, snowflake.

[SonicMage117]

Uggghhh... I'll just leave it the way it is. Oh well lol

[Raithe]

Hm, so Villeneuve's Dune has added more to it's cast.

Timothy Chalamet to play Paul Atreides, Rebecca Ferguson as Lady Jessica, Stellan Skarsgard is to be the new Baron Harkonnen, and Dave Bautista to play 'The Beast' Rabban Harkonnen.

[injurai]

Hm, so Villeneuve's Dune has added more to it's cast.

Timothy Chalamet to play Paul Atreides, Rebecca Ferguson as Lady Jessica, Stellan Skarsgard is to be the new Baron Harkonnen, and Dave Bautista to play 'The Beast' Rabban Harkonnen.

 

I love literally every one of the casting decisions made so far. Only thing I wish was Roger Deakins was attached to this. The current cinematographer isn't bad himself, but he's no Deakins.

[algroth]

 

Hm, so Villeneuve's Dune has added more to it's cast.

Timothy Chalamet to play Paul Atreides, Rebecca Ferguson as Lady Jessica, Stellan Skarsgard is to be the new Baron Harkonnen, and Dave Bautista to play 'The Beast' Rabban Harkonnen.

 

I love literally every one of the casting decisions made so far. Only thing I wish was Roger Deakins was attached to this. The current cinematographer isn't bad himself, but he's no Deakins.

 

 

Grieg Fraser is not at all a bad choice, however. Relative to Deakins, both seem to have pretty similar stengths to my eyes, from a very decent classical eye to an interest in the combination of different formats to create new starker images and so on. Much as I suspect Fraser's work in Rogue One for example was heavily Deakins-inspired (and also one of the best-looking Star Wars films so far, after Empire and maybe The Last Jedi), I don't doubt for a moment that Deakins looked to Zero Dark Thirty as a reference for his work in Sicario. On top of that Villeneuve's also worked with another cinematographer for Arrival and that looked no less impressive relative to his other work, so I think it's all in good hands.

[injurai]

Rogue One and Zero Dark Thirty were both striking in their own ways. I don't think either really captures the visuals I imagine for Dune, though I'm sure it will be given it's own considerations. Rogue One probably has the cleanest use of lights and darks that I can think of as of late. Way too pristine overall for what I imagine for Dune, from an old heirloom castle to a harsh desert planet, this is a much lower sci-fi despite the almost grander world building that envelops the world of Dune. I'd like the high-contrast lighting to return, but maybe so clean. I don't want the scenes to feel like sets, I want the natural world that will be teeming into every sense of Paul's being to be raw and accentuated. Something more akin to Emmanuel Lubezki's The Last Days In The Desert or John Mathieson's The Kingdom of Heaven.

 

I think Sicario probably drew more on previous works in Jar Head, which itself drew on Band of Brothers / Saving Private Ryan. Zero Dark Thirty and The Hurt Locker just continued that aesthetic language. I also need to watch Foxcatcher, that one slipped by me.

[algroth]

I'm thinking the connection between Sicario and Zero Dark Thirty more based on their respective climaxes than the rest of the films - their combination of different formats and processes for a more immersive, realistic, hyper-focalized take on the respective raid sequences. I see the Abbottabad raid all over Sicario, more so than any of the war films.

Edited January 10, 2019 by algroth

[injurai]

Oh, I guess that's of a direction corollary though. I'm looking at cinematography more strictly as the photographic tone that these movies achieve mostly through lighting and color gamuts. Of which ZDT really borrows from that "washed out photos documenting WW2" feel that is now used to convey the "war is hell" feeling when looking back on bleak times.

 

But... I also think the content of a film often dictates what is attempted with the photographic tone. So those two films I suggested are heavy on the messianic archetype, of which Dune I feel should follow from the classic biblical epics of cinema. Hell, a little Evangelion's "disgust at one's messianic role" could be thrown in their as Paul's diet transitions to heavily malange-laced foods. Dune exists so much inside Paul's head, the film's need a strong way of communicating Paul's inner turmoil without alienating the audience and without betraying to core character motivations. I really hope they nail the conversation Paul has with Jessica throughout the book, I think that relationship is going to be the most important to get right.

[algroth]