Hiro Protagonist

I agree. It won't die out. It's just different opinions and factions. Some identify with one prominent person while others will identify with another prominent person and disagree with the former.

That's not what I said and you know it Bruce. But I've noticed you are against honesty and integrity in the gaming media with one of the goals of GG and it appears you're not being honest here as well. It's what I expect from you. And an internet forum amongst the millions of internet forums on the internet is not the same as real life. Maybe that's one of your problems with not being able to tell the difference from one to the other. And do I really care about not being liked on some internet forum? No, I don't. Do I care about real life like at work and social functions? Yes of course. Because a forum is something I can leave and never return and it doesn't affect my real life one single bit. I think it's quite sad that you can't leave some gaming forum on the internet and you're always wanting attention and to be liked. In real life, that comes across as weird. Seriously, can you imagine someone saying in real life, 'Oh hey, there's Bruce and he wants to be liked on this gaming forum that you probably have never heard of and he tries his best to be liked by random people'. Yeah, real life is important to me. Random internet forums and wanting to be liked by random strangers aren't. So please, you can drop the dishonesty, the slimy debating tactics. It's all BS and you know it too. So lets get back on topic.

It is BS that you're lumping everyone as the same with talking about forums. You can't say everyone is like you, wanting to be liked by others on forums, creating threads about your life or anything else. That shows more about you than anyone else. I'm the same in that I don't care if I'm liked or not on these forums. I don't have a want to be liked. I'll post whatever I feel like posting. I go to many forums and the Obsidian forums is just another one where I post. Much like the other forums I post at or used to post at. Doesn't concern in me in the slightest to wanting to be liked on all those forums.

No idea where all this victim blaming came into this.

Hang on. The public shaming? Terminating a contract is overkill? Firstly, how did this come all about? How did the public become aware of it? Was it Steam that went to social media to publicly shame this guy? Or was it the guy making such a big deal out of this on social media and continuing to make a big deal on social media that he publicly shamed himself? Terminating it was the best thing Steam could do.

Is that directed at me? a) I see no reason to sign it. b) If that other dev wants to distance himself from this, then maybe it's best to start all over. The name of the company will be tainted with Steam. Starting over with a new company and new image would help this imo. c) and the game does look like crap. You seriously like this and want to play it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzaM7aS1n54

I'm not signing it. Maybe the best thing for that other guy to do is change his company name to something else and start all over again. And the game looks crap.

Seeing the 24:59 time on that video, there's no way I'm spending that amount of time watching some screeching banshee. The last video with her was bad enough.

There's always Brenda Ann Spencer. It's interesting to see so many people who listen and don't know what the song 'I don't like Mondays' is all about.

Much like your posts in the Pillars forum where someone pointed this out to you? I suggest having a cup of positive every morning. It might make you feel better.

I'm not here to convince you. That's for you to do yourself. I do find it funny that you're against GG's goals of having honesty and integrity within organisations like the gaming media. I never knew you were against such worthy goals like honesty and integrity.

But is he the legitimate and recognised President of China?

Never said the website is closing down. And was it an objective of GG? Can you provide links? I thought one of the objectives was to bring honesty and integrity to gaming media sites. Something you don't seem to agree with. The difference between the two of us is I'm all for honesty and integrity. Try and debate against that all you like but you will lose.

Your claim was: 'Those sites have been steadily increasing their views since gamergate began." How long has GG been going? About a month? Gamasutra has gone down.

So you admit Gamasutra's views have gone down?

So Xi Jinping who is the President of China, who didn't come to power through the will of the people is not the legitimate president of China. Because you know he's also the Chairman of the Central Military Commission as well. Check.

Why would I be offended? I'm quite bemused by it all. And how do you know how I feel? And you think I'm outraged? LOL. Nice misconception and strawmen you've built there Bruce. And I never once said I expect certain websites to support GG. I have said certain websites like Polygon should have honesty, integrity, to be held up to a certain standard, not to bully or harass their audience and throw insults at their sponsors. But you're okay with them doing this. I find it quite odd that you don't expect the gaming media to be honest and have integrity. And you don't expect Polygon or any other gaming media site to get rid of corruption? LOL. This coming from a so called Social Justice Warrior. Okay, so you're okay with organisations doing as they please. Throwing insults at their audience and their sponsors. And you agree with sites like Polygon. Check. And what do I expect them to do? I keep repeating myself with them being honest and having integrity, something you're unable to grasp. And when did sites like RPS and others went to great lengths to explain GG and it wasn't all critical? And yes Bruce, you can't keep repeating a certain stance on a particular subject. You've been proven wrong on many times on these forums. I know you can do it. I know you can admit that the gaming media should have integrity and should stamp out corruption. Some people like yourself refuse to understand certain things and will only see the negative so irrespective of what GG says it won't change Bruce's mind because he has convinced himself about a certain narrative around GG.

Need to check your own link. Looks like Gamasutra has dropped, not increased.

Can you provide links to this?

Oh, I don't understand? It's clear to me Bruce, you're the one who doesn't understand. And it's clear to me you don't care about the standards of people from these gaming media sites and don't hold them accountable at all. And there is no expectation to have a discussion about the standards of these gaming websites that GG has brought up? And these sites like Polygon and RPS and Gawker Media have shown that they will stop at nothing to throw insults at their audience and their sponsors. And you're all for that and don't hold them accountable. You're more interested in holding GG up to a higher standard and ignoring these gaming media sites and their hypocrisy. And why shouldn't the gaming media sites want to discuss all topics about the purpose of good behaviour, honesty, integrity, the gaming industry, good and the bad? The onus is on these media sites to get a clear message across about what they really stand for and distance themselves from the extremist element. But then you say this is not the role of websites like Gamasutra and Polygon?. So you're okay with bullying and harassment from these sites? Good to see where you stand. You're all for bullies and having bullies throw insults at minorities, women, all sorts of people. And these gaming media websites are fine with the fact that they don't care about the issues GG has brought up with them throwing insults at their audience and sponsors and they are prepared to deal with the consequences? Good to see you're championing their cause for bullying and harassment. These gaming websites should be asking "how can we get people like Hiro to support us". And that first step is a cohesive approach that allows proper debate. And twitter could never achieve that. But these editors and reporters from these websites still use twitter as a means to want to bully and harass people on the internet. But you're okay with all this bullying and harassment from Gawker media and it's affiliates because you're more concerned about GG than the hypocrisy of the gaming media.

I agree. It was more of a rhetorical question and shows the hypocrisy of the SJW's where they hold GG to a high standard but don't with their own views and/or sites they visit. Sites like Polygon might wither and die or they may stay alive gasping for air, the last vestiges of their SJW preaching, while the rest of us gamers carry on playing games. You can't talk reasonably to people who don't want to engage in reasonable debate and talk all over you. We saw that with Brianna Wu talking over everyone. And the same with that article with Liz and Rex, where Rex showed his hypocrisy.

You expect this site to open up a forum for all parties to have a reasonable discussion? How about sites like Polygon opening up their site for a forum to all and to have a reasonable discussion to raise concerns in the gaming industry? Wouldn't that have been a logical and reasonable way to get the gaming media to discuss the issues. Or don't you hold them up to the same standard as GG? And wouldn't you agree that the next step for the gaming media is to evolve with certain standards that all can agree with. You know like honesty, no bullying, no harassment and all this sort of stuff that different parts of the gaming media should be doing.

I like the fact that it has websites they deem okay and half those sites I've never heard of. I'm glad to see such a list like this. The death of gamers? More like the death of those terrible gaming sites like Polygon.

Interesting. The sites from the 'approved' section is something I'll have to check out.

After reading the last couple of pages and seeing an article I didnt' realise it's National Bullying Prevention Month. Great to see Gawker ignoring that and want to bring bullying back.