What do you mean by "traditional"?
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RPGs such as the Fallouts, Baldurs Gates, Planescape Torment, Icewind Dales, Arcanum, TOEE etc.
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I'm sure people who grew up with games like Wasteland, Wizard's Crown, Pool of Radience and Bard's Tale felt the same way when those games you mentioned came out.
Times change, evolve or do without
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The original bards tale
"Just rub some darque on it"