Gromnir

"Gromir seems to think manditory reciting of the pledge is OK notwithstanding the constitution. But he does not seem to agree with the constitution or the role of the judiciary in interpreting the constitution and appears to be advocating overthrowing or ignoring the current law and resorting to pure majority rule or perhaps something else instead. There are alot of folks who share similar views (at least when they think they are in the majority) but I'm not one. " classic strawman nonsense. come back when you wann play like an adult. HA! Good Fun!

what could be a more "neat historical event" than Gromnir getting a .22 for his 12th birthday... and regardless, you can extrapolate our birthday from the info given and use that wiki thing to discover if some dead king or ex-football palyer had same birthday as Gromnir... none of which could possibly be as interesting to Gromnir as the rifle we got. HA! Good Fun!

not only does their vote not really matter, but most folks who is voting know that their vote does not matter. is like a poll where you ask which cartoon character would be the bestest president. sure people vote, but none of them actually thinks that snagglepuss or he-man might actually become president based on their votes. HA! Good Fun!

"Or maybe, keep in mind, this is hypothetical, 'flamer' filled the list up with horrible candidates to make himself look more attractive? " dumb theory for two reasons: 1) is not like people can't see the rest of the wot posters simply 'cause you not list 'em. and 2) place fresh & steamy vomit next to a glass o' rancid milk and the milk not all sudden like look delicious. in any event, it seems certain that Gromnir will be paying 5 cents a gal. for gas before obsidian offers flamer a mod job. HA! Good Fun!

... have never bought our own plane ticket. that had never occurred to us before. whenever we needs plane tickets we simply tell our secretary to get one for us. have been doing that for over a decade now, though we has had a number o' different secretaries during that time. huh. HA! Good Fun!

our birthday (day/month) is the only one that has 2 different perfect numbers. as to kewl things that happened on our birthday... we got our very own .22 when we turned 12. beat that. HA! Good Fun!

didn't exit over at rpg codex nominate himself for the position o' mod when these boards first got underway? somebody should tell him that this is his big chance to curry favor with the natives. am always amused when our name gets suggested as a possible mod on a message board. is even more amusing when The Powers That Be approach us to that end. the urge to self-destruction seems strong in some folks. regardless, we gotta give interplay/bis/obsidian credit for having never asked Gromnir to moderate. asking us to mod seems like such a ridiculous notion that no sane persons would ever honestly consider it, and yet it happens with some frequency. an overdeveloped sense o

"Have I missed anyone?" yeah. as usual, eldar missed Gromnir. having largely avoided the issue as to whether the pledge is a good thing or a bad thing, we took the road less traveled and pointed out that: 1) the Congress that passed the Bill o' Rights would not have been offended by the pledge. 2) the Court, a handful of non-elected old farts each with a handful of legal trained law clerks, is not the folks qualified to gather information 'bout, or makes rulings based on, the psychological impact of the pledge on young minds. 3) Congress can create committees and have hearings and such to gather such info... which is why they is the folks that we have create public policies. and 4) we noted that if the majority o' Americans really does believe that there should be a Wall o' Separation 'tween church and state, then it sure seems like the obvious way to change the pledge is to get Congress to do so. *shrug* the warren Court made a big mistake with Brown... suckered folks into thinking that the Court were a viable option to bring 'bout positive social change. HA! Good Fun!

"btw, what gromnir is referring to is the fallacy fallacy. saying than an entire argument is fallacious simply because one committed a fallacy is in itself a fallacy." that is part of it... insulting one's adversary gots a long and storied history. some o' the greatest minds in history has been known as much for their insults as their arguments. "What do you think of Western civilization?" "I think it would be a good idea." replied Mahatma Gandhi. just 'cause something is illogical does not mean it fails as an argument. HA! Good Fun!

over: victor hugo under: elastic in underwear (e.g socks, briefs, etc.) HA! Good Fun!

side note: there is absolutely nothing wrong with ad hominem attacks, as long as the ad hominem ain't the totality of the argument. "bob is a putz, and he has always been a putz. even bob

you know, the part that we really don't get is, assuming ss and others is right 'bout most Americans being in favor o' Wall o' Separation, why don't you folks simply get Congress to change the gosh darn pledge? that is the way the system is 'posed to work you know. HA! Good Fun!

then don't say under god. it is not required, last time i checked. nothing to square and no contrary statements. that's pretty much what i did (er, didn't do) when i was growing up (started my conversion around 12/13 or so). no sweat off my back and nobody seemed to care, not even my teacher. taks <{POST_SNAPBACK}> God forbear! don't you realize how traumatized your young brain was? heck, you were probably group-thunk into becoming religious... you poor dumb bastard. all those years o' repressed guilt over fraudulently reciting the pledge led to some sorta emotional backlash... sounds silly? sounds like the kinda reasoning the Court should be using to declare what is and ain't Constitutional? ... am catholic. our catholicism does not prevent Gromnir from thinking that a Wall o' Separation would be a good thing. however, we is pretty damned certain that the Framers did not believe that the establishment clause called for a Wall o' Separation, and the notion that the Court should use the touchy-feely nonsense 'bove to explain why such a construction should be retroactively attached to the First Amendment makes us more than a little queasy. HA! Good Fun!

this is a dumbarse thread with lots of dumbarsed theories and dumbarsed posts. however, the fact that it ain't been purged is noteworthy. HA! Good Fun!

btw, one thing Gromnir cannot stand is developer bs... as if we ain't been listening for the past decade or so. am not talking 'bout josh, but developers 5 years ago told us that gamers didn't want 80 hour games... gamers wanted 40 hours. so now, 5 years later when Gromnir says, "where are the 40 hour games," developers tell us that gamers really want 20 hour games. bs... we call bs. HA! Good Fun!

two games that gots equal quality, one of which is 60 hours and the other is 40. which is better? most every designer and developer tells us that they likes shorter games... but then they admit that the resources it takes to make 3d games nowadays results in Big Games being impossible to develop. *shrug* games is getting shorter... and we suspect that in the future it is even gonna get more expensive for developers to keep up with cutting edge tech, so games will probably become even less long. as long as publishers believe that they has to make games that look as good as they can make'em, the games will get shorter and shorter. is Gromnir wrong? we hope so. HA! Good Fun!

according to that source, mead is pretty vile stuff. as Gromnir does not partake of alcoholic libations we has no point o' reference, but gaiman sure makes it sound disgusting, no? ah well, taste is such a personal thing. HA! Good Fun!

is a very short book and an easy read. am not surprised that you CAN read it once a month. am just confused as to why anybody would do such a thing. then again, Gromnir has read beowulf a few hundred times... HA! Good Fun!

once a month? ... post-war french absurdists give us gas... but we agree that "the stranger" is worth reading at least once. HA! Good Fun! p.s. if it weren't for the fact that both beckett and conrad wrote in french, we would pretty much ignore the existence of france... from a literary pov at least.

camus were an existentialist. HA! Good Fun!

sir gawain is actually a beter read than beowulf, but Gromnir sees beowulf everywhere, so we give it the nod. as to richard iii... it is a play... as such, w/o actors to breathe life into richard, the title character can come off as both over-the-top and maudlin. nevertheless, we got a soft spot for the "poisinous bunch-backed toad." is our favorite shakespeare even if it ain't the bestest. can't go wrong with macbeth. HA! Good Fun!

not really... but you do have multiple narrators, one of whom is retarded. "as i lay dying" is another novel in which faulkner uses multiple narrators (one of whom is dead.) their story is more coherent... less stream o' consciousness. HA! Good Fun!

add: lolita the complete short stories of ernest hemingway one that is as often on the list as off: gravity's rainbow is a great book to teach and discuss 'cause so much is going on in it, but... *shrug* HA! Good Fun!

regardless, the following is just plain wrong: "It is the Court's duty to rule on what is legal or illegal based on current precedents and law." HA! Good Fun!

dubliners pale fire brave new world the sound and the fury richard iii slaughterhouse 5 the king's indian babbit rabbit is rich the dark knight returns beowulf grendel as i lay dying the heart of the matter knight the phantom tollbooth HA! Good Fun!