Gromnir

Don't speak for "most folks", because you can't. Speak for yourself, let the other two in your band of Riftworm -thread detractors speak for themselves. I earlier stated I care less if the anti-Riftworm 3 man coalition do or don't take me seriously, I pointed out you could run along if you weren't goint to stay on topic. Junai has a point. Let patch support and Atari be the topic, not me. this thread is about patch support, not your bias towards me, and inability to keep pertinent. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> woe is rift, eh? you ask a question. we gave an answer... or if it makes you feel better, we came up with a hypothesis. am not speaking for everybody so much as giving you a reasonable reason for people not taking you serious. and again, we got no real bias 'gainst you. as we said 'bove, we will (and do) judge each of your posts on their own merits. nevertheless, your thread is somewhat pointless. nwn sold well and atari wanted to keep franchise going... so they creates multiple expansions and continue support for years. if nwnw2 game does well 'nuff insofar as sales is concerned to merit future support, it will get future support. is not complicated. if game tanks, then atari will cut loses and wash hands of nwn2 as quick as possible, as there is no legit business reason to throw good money after bad. HA! Good Fun!

hasbro owns wotc. assume for a moment that wotc wants to do mature stuff ('cause their print material makes obvious that they is willing to do more adult if they get chance.) do you s'pose they gots carte blanche to do so? is not simple... and fact that tolkienesque and disneyfied fantasy still sells very is hardly motivating wotc to makes serious changes to policy. HA! Good Fun!

now ss, you is cheating vol and sargy of their due. HA! Good Fun!

you asked why. you asked to be told what were wrong with your thread. you questioned why your querry were deemed meritless. Gromnir gave you your answer... you made topical. oh, and we not claim that you is acting the rabid, foamy, fanatic in This thread. (still kinda slow, eh?) am explaining why most folks refuse to take you serious w/o ascribing motives you may not wish to be burdened with. HA! Good Fun!

and so the retreat begins for yet another poorly equipped foe. HA! Good Fun!

"those quotes aren't mine" *chuckle* well duh. did anybody think that those were quotes from rift? nevertheless, our point, which seemed to have gone right over your head, is that your previous threads and posts has identified you as a rabid nwn fanatic who gots little interest in reasonable debate. so, whether you think that it is fair or not, few people in this place is gonna read a post pf yours 'bout nwn2 w/o attributing motives. you made a bit of an arse of self with the ridiculous 50 thread (really, we never did see you give more than token support for more than 5 of those 50, and you waffled and did 180s on a few others,) and now you act the victim 'cause nobody takes you serious? shoulda' stuck w/5 or 'least admit that you were being hyperbolic for effect, but each post entrebched your rep as an irrational fanatic ever deeper into the average board poster's psyche. personally, Gromnir will consider each of your posts case by case, but we thinks it is foolish to act the victim here when you clearly brought this on yourself. HA! Good Fun!

as Gromnir warned already in the now defunct thread, rift's clearly hyperbolic and outrageous claims made it so nobody would take him/her serious. now even if rift were to makes a valid contribution it is gonna get dismissed... or at least it is less likely to gets serious consideration. "Hi. I'm Riftworm, a nwn fanatic who likes to imagine strengths into the first nwn game, and faults into the second. I was expecting more from nwn2, much more. Obsidian failed to meet my expectations and because of that I will hound and harry them as best I can. "However, please keep in mind that even the most bitter, obtuse and irrational poster on a message board can, against all odd, make a valid point, so please do not dismiss me out of hand. "Thank you." okie dokie. rift has to do some serious damage control if he wants peoples to take him serious... whether rift thinks that is fair or not. is just the way it is chum. HA! Good Fun!

vol, vol, vol... if the guys at ea bragged 'bout how they filmed selves playing flag football to gets kewl new animation captures for Madden 2007, we would has similar criticisms. catch a bunch o' nerdling developers larping is hardly our notion of a kewl new feature... but if some of you folks is impressed, or if you feels some empathy for biowarian physical limitations being attacked by Gromnir, then so be it. HA! Good Fun!

"That's why you have animators, who with a little luck are even themselves professionals in fencing or any other sport. " oh sure, we can name lots of animators who is also pro atheletes. sorry, but trash can lid and stick sword battles is not something we would brag 'bout. 'least for their silly language stuff the biowarians went out and gots a grad student as an expert, but larping biowarians hardly impress Gromnir none. HA! Good Fun!

liberty is antithetical to democracy. you wanna live in a democratic country? fine. democracy is Gromnir giving up his right to do what he wishes if the majority thinks some alternative is best. we gots a representative democracy. the Bill of Rights is our defense against the tyranny of the majority. you wants to make new law that allows people to avoid draft as a matter of conscience? sure, you can do that, but that is purpose of Amendments to the Constitution. if majority doesn't like you using flag as toilet paper to make a point, they can go howl for all the good it will do 'em, 'cause Bill o' Rights allows you to do so. is easy being in favor of govt. paying for infrastucture and eductaion, but not for wars in foreign lands. fine. however, you use vote to get things changed... or you can leave. democracy is opposed to excercise of liberty. you sacrifice liberty for benefit of democracy. we got no contempt for those who feels strong enough 'bout not fighting that they would risk substantial imprisionment, but that is part of the deal... thoreau would understand. HA! Good Fun!

predictable. *shrug* to stay on-topic we does note that if anybody really thinks that combat animations will look keener 'cause biowarians smack each other with fake swords and sticks and catch on film, then we is more than a little surprised. this is their version of madden football animation capture? goes out and film brian urlacher to get lb moves ain't quite same as uncoordinated nerdling biowarians filming each other larp. HA! Good Fun!

*chuckle* ah well, in the spirit of holiday season we is gonna let you off the hook...'cause you has been off the hook for some time now. is getting pretty far off-topic in any event. HA! Good Fun!

this is getting ridiculous. alan simply wants to be contrarian. so be it. in any event, anybody that believes that the biowarians not snack at work (gaider? *cough*) is just plain nuts. and skinny nerds is typical not all that more athletic than priestly sized nerds. in any event, we is gonna resign self to realizing that alan will simply says white every time we says black... 'least for near fitutre. get over it chum. HA! Good Fun!

am guessing that pizza counts as a restaurant food. in any event, you was talking 'bout going to bio... now you is talking 'bout going out to eat. you gots a hard time staying focused on stuff lately. HA! Good Fun!

Or I could just go stop by and say hello <{POST_SNAPBACK}> makes sure you bring doughnuts or cheetos if you stop by... HA! Good Fun!

am surprised that we still bother to respond to vol "not true," is hardly an argument. disagree with us if you want, but we doubt you convince anybody that you is correct simply by disagreeing with Gromnir. and nwn sold big from day 1... which is why atari continued to support. you gots things so bass akwards it is ridiculous. big sales of nwn products came following release of core game and its expansions. show us how sales spiked following release of patch and maybe you gots yourself something substantial worth arguing... which would be a shock to everyone. HA! Good Fun!

"That's not entirely true. I for one, am still holding off on purchasing NWN2. " how is our comment not entirely true based on your response? "I for one," exactly. you is just one. the number of people likes you is small... very small. atari knows. first 2 qaurters or bust. HA! good Fun!

I assume he felt he was tidying up .. importing an off-topic comment from another thread. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> looks off-topic here... and is simply repeat of another post... so is spam. sometimes the mods get a little... strange. is not all that much activity here in any event, so lord only knows why there is such a need to tiddy things up. regardless, we gets back on-topic... spoilers ahead x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x didn't like the UBG for nwn2. why go cheap and make Guardian easy evil? has Guardian simply be carrying out his impossible goal of trying to save/preserve a dead empire and you got a better bad guy w/o all the shadow weave nonsense. heck, you can even keeps in all the undead... only way to resurrect a dead civilization maybe would be through undeath. *shrug* could have been far more sympathetic, w/o loss of threat. HA! Good Fun!

thanks. further proof of what we were talking 'bout. in any event, you can goes and look up pictures of biowarians from gencon and e3 and even from company picnic. is not pretty. hockey is real popular in kanada. find lots of fat and slow guys playing flag football or softball here in States, so why not have similar thing going on in kanada. and yeah, we does know of one or two guys at bio who coulds pick up a baseball and not throw like a girl... or run up 5 flights of stairs w/o risk of coronary, but list is small... very small. as a group they is pretty darn unathletic. HA! Good Fun!

what were the point of fin's spam? anybody? HA! Good Fun!

Link? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> to be fair, it don't take much to get banned from bio these days. that being said, rift obviously gots an axe to grind... which ain't always a bad thing. those slightly over-the-top fans who gots some touch o' fanaticism can be useful for sparking debate, but am not sure why every board gots to have one guy who inevitably goes off deep end and simply wants to use boards to grandstand... "see, i was right. (insert developer name) has once again proven just how incompetent/idiotic/evil they really are." *shrug* we suspect that continued support o' nwn2 will depend mostly on sales. if sales is bad, then no 'mount of whimpering from rift or anybody else will gets increased support beyond what we gots now. if sales is good, then atari will want the almost free money that comes with expansions for a succesful game... and nothing the obsinaties or atari folks do now will impact sales o' nwn2. can't rebuild game through patches in hopes that some huge number of non-purchasers will hear 'bout improvements and buy. foolishness. HA! Good Fun!

"Promising. " really? use film of a bunch o' half drunk and uncoordinated kanadian nerdlings sporting trash can lids and broom handles to be basis for visual representation o' combat for da? "promising?" has you seen the bioware crew? to gets a similarly unathletic group you would have to scour north america for polio victims... or maybe go to a comic book convention. ... if biowarians want feel of live combat, maybe they shoulda' simply watched a kanadian junior hockey game. 'course da would then probably lose teen rating. HA! Good Fun!

am seated in front of computer and ask self, "ok, so what would be a good name for a barbarian kinda character?" 5 seconds later we types "Gromnir" into account registration form for old Interplay message boards. ... no more complicated or profound than that. HA! Good Fun!

oh, and we still would like to see obsinaties add some way to access character profile and inventories of joinable npcs while pc is in flagon or keep. also, we cannot figure out why the developers seem unable or unwilling to discuss the missing feats. is not a big deal, but we has seen numerous threads at bio 'bout the missing feats and never once has we seen a developer response. keep in mind that we is only voicing concerns we thinks might be dealt with in a patch... or patches. we got loads of problems with game, but most such issues we got simply can't be addressed to Gromnir's satisfaction by patching. HA! Good Fun!

keep in mind that the bags only had 24 slots up 'til recent patch... which meant that navigatiion issues were pretty much a non-factor. 'course, the fact that there were so few bags with so few slots made 'em far less useful than they shoulda' been. obsidian folks realize that for folks trying to hold onto crafting materials and scrolls for when they finally gets a wizard character joinable, as well as simply needing someplace safe to store 1007 following the module transition/purge (an issue that would'a been nice to have some adbanced warning 'bout,) they does a quick-fix and increase number of bag slots by a very large number... now you got something over 140. progression: 24 slot bag not need fancy navigation. low number of 24 slot bags were insufficient to meet player needs. obsidians "fix" problem in most obvious and easy way possible. +140 slot bags were not originally envisioned. is understandable that they not got better navigation and fix navigation would be much more difficult to work into a patch than were the simple adjustment of adding more slots to bags. a practical solution to a stoopid problem ends up causing some new issue? no surprise. new bags is far from ideal, but now that Gromnir knows when all of his stuff will be purged from keep and flagon containers we can use increased size bags to deal with the problems... though we gotta say that the mechanic for dealing with joinable npc inventories is still so bass ackwards and time consuming that we gets more than a little frustrated with the game. ... we may be forced to use crafting in future, just so we not have to go through pain of trying to shift appropriate equip between party members. what a waste. HA! Good Fun!