Gromnir

You didn't and haven't 'won' on one single point. All you've done is misrepresent, move off when shown to be misrepresenting/ goalpost shift, shuffle and repeat- as you generally do. No doubt next post you'll be back to claiming that 'not severe' means 'none' again, or similar. Oh wait, you do that again, further down. Oookay. So you post articles, defend articles, quote from articles and yet "didn't mention time frames". Then admit you actually did a couple of sentences later. Pretty much sums things up. I said I'd put my money where my mouth is and adopt an ostrich avatar for a year if the 6-12 months estimate were true- and I'll do so even if you had so little faith in wsj guy that you wouldn't reciprocate. Because I have 100% confidence wsj guy was spouting crap. And if your complaint is based on you posting that wsj article as some sort of detached academic exercise then, lol. Nope. Mine was a direct quote of an article you'd (supposedly) already read and provided a link to, made to refute the bald and contextually inaccurate '40%' claim you'd actually pulled from a paraphrasing blog. Uh, it was you who were fixated on the '40%' [sic] figure, not me. I was just pointing out that you were misquoting your expert. If you don't want that to happen then don't misquote him. *chuckle* we love the hypocrisy. talk about "context stripping." the 40% were relevant 'cause it went to substantiate that western sanctions were indeed impactful rather that your ignorant and obdurate attempts to diminish. the 40% were only relevant as a repudiation or your continued ostrich routine... your peculiar need to believe that western sanctions weren't a significant contributor to russia's growing economic crisis. even more amusing "context stripping" were you failure to put the Kurdin quote In Context o' suggesting that putin's guesstimates o' 25-30% were too little and that yes, indeed, western sanctions were hurting russia's economy a great deal. "We mustn't downplay the impact of sanctions … It's a very big blow every year to the Russian economy," might as well post that quote again 'cause the context o' kurdin's other quotes seems lost on you. btw, that is a quote from the moscow times. the 40% stuff were from the financial times. no blogs. you context strip and then accuse us o' doing so... repeatedly? is a bad habit for you it seems. *chuckle* accuse us o' context stripping (HA!) when the only context were your spontaneous ejaculation following two posts by Gromnir offering links. at the same time, your recent posts is kinda the paranoid's handbook entry on context stripping for dummies... doing obvious and repeated. reality: Gromnir quote: "hell, it were only a few pages ago in this thread when you were telling us that the Russian financial crisis were some kinda invention o’ western journalists, or some such nonsense. "“Yes, I hear that Russia is down to their last 376 billion! "“Always a good laugh, seeing US press (and especially Uncle Rupes' Yellow Journalists) talking their enemies down, you'd think dealing with the 18 trillion dollar (and currently increasing at more than Russia's entire external debt annually) log in their own eye would garner rather more attention.”" zor: Hooray for context stripping. To remind people, you were saying that Russia would be out of reserves in "six months to a year at current rate of spending". I handily refuted the "current rate of spending" pages back, now there's nothing else to do but set the alarm clock for early August- Feb 2015/6 and see whose experts were right, mine saying 18 months to two years or yours saying max a year. Whoever is wrong can feel free to admit they were an ostrich. 'course the actuality can be seen, once again, via the links: http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/69691-ukraine-discussion/page-13?do=findComment&comment=1569008 http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/69691-ukraine-discussion/page-13?do=findComment&comment=1569041 again, no mention o' time frames from Gromnir before your sudden and ridiculous observation that has every reputable economist outside russia, and even a few in, laughing themselves silly. http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/26/investing/russia-credit-rating-junk/ cnn money showing that russia is no having junk status for s&p credit. http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2015/01/06/russias-currency-crisis-continues-the-ruble-is-crashing-again/2/ is a forbes article detailing continuing ruble plight http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/warnings-of-russian-financial-crisis-spread-as-banks-start-failing/514503.html another moscow times article highlighting the impending russian banking crisis http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/14/us-russia-crisis-idUSKBN0KN0Q620150114 a reuteurs article quoting russian finance minister speaking 'bout the severity o' the budget gap russia is facing. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/03/18/russias-plagiarism-problem-even-putin-has-done-it/ ok, that one is just for funsy... show putin's "doctoral" thesis were plagiarized, and the comical extent o' the plagiarizing. context stripping? russia is down to their last (less than) $350 billion in reserves, and with the glut o' stored oil being too expensive to maintain, many/most prognosticators is predicting another drop in oil prices. IF the current western sanctions is maintained, russia is in serious trouble within the next 6-18 months. you really think the extra six months makes the situation worthy o' a "good laugh?" HA! it is funny, but is black humor, and EVERYBODY but oby and a few putin apologists would be laughing at you. you is a Hoot. keep posting. is funny. am certain Gromnir will once again tire before you do, but it feels a bit like beating up a crippled and blind kid. HA! Good Fun!

the concept o' the ranger/cleric was to combine the spell-casting abilities o' TWO classes while gaining premier thac0 progression. a balanced version o' the concept? a decent melee combatant who can cast spells and wear armour sounds like a chanter. problem solved. am not seeing a need for a nature-based version o' the chanter. different stokes? HA! Good Fun!

so, you wanna make'em more like d&d rangers. *shrug* that is okie dokie. personally, we tend to agree with mr.monocle at this point. dump 'em. complete opposite o' hermit, we see fixing ranger either by making 'em a ranged weapon damage dealing class without the unnecessary ranger trappings, or cutting 'em out o' the game complete. in our estimation, animal companions and stealth and outdoor affinity is not gonna make rangers better. get rid o' the ranger crap from the crappy ranger, or get rid o' the ranger. 'course it is too late for our suggestion, so at best we is gonna get half-measures that make rangers less horrible. HA! Good Fun! I know Rangers sucked in most implementations of DnD, but think Cleric/Ranger in 2e(IWD/BG2) minus the cleric weapon restrictions. Cleric/Rangers were awesome. I also like the old 1h/no shield style, but I wouldn't try to enforce that since it seems they want classes to have freedom in weapon set-up. IWD funnily enough had a half-arsed method of simulating dual wield by giving them an extra attack with a one handed weapon and I kind of liked this better than actual dual wielding. ranger/clerics (multi-class half-elf or dual-class human) were ridiculous overpowered. they were dual-wielding melee monsters that could access both druid and cleric spells, including the cleric spells that could functional boost the ranger/cleric's combat prowess past any fighter build. vanilla druid progression were a terrible handicap, but heck, your ranger/cleric didn't need worry 'bout such trivial things. because o' the bizarre xp progression o' 2ed d&d, the ranger/cleric were functional sacrificing a single level o' cleric spell casting to not only get druid spells, but full dual-wield, exceptional strength, fighter/ranger con bonuses and weapon specialization. do Not use ranger/cleric as an example o' what the poe ranger should aspire to be. please. HA! Good Fun!

Skyrim is boring as hell, though. I don't think OP cares what you think of that game By his description, Skyrim is perfect for him. dunno about that. the genesis poster liked all the side stuff, but at the same time, he/she couldn't finish the game and thought ADD might be an issue. spine o' the world were an iwd location, so we took that as a cue in responding. if the genesis poster were unable to maintain focus in a game such as iwd, then skyrim might not be a better option after all. *shrug* when making poe, the obsidian developers drew inspiration from the old ie games. one suspects that if a player couldn't finish the ie games, there is some cause to suspect that the player will find poe to be equally difficult to finish. but as we already noted, josh could answer better, particularly if josh alb is able to get at the particulars o' what prevented him/her from finishing past ie games. HA! Good Fun!

Oby is Putin. no, no. putin is ferris bueller... but older and angrier. wake up and smell the coffee. HA! Good Fun!

perhaps it would be best to ask josh as josh knows more about the game than does any of us. *shrug* however, we suspect that if you couldn't finish iwd because it failed to hold your attention, poe will be less likely to keep you involved. iwd games, for better or worse, were considered more dungeon crawl than the other ie games. iwd were noted as an obsidian inspiration for combat and combat encounters, but less so for character interaction, quest design, story, etc. iwd games were more focused and on-rails than the other ie games, so if you couldn't finish them... even so, we suggest asking josh. HA! Good Fun!

so, you wanna make'em more like d&d rangers. *shrug* that is okie dokie. personally, we tend to agree with mr.monocle at this point. dump 'em. complete opposite o' hermit, we see fixing ranger either by making 'em a ranged weapon damage dealing class without the unnecessary ranger trappings, or cutting 'em out o' the game complete. in our estimation, animal companions and stealth and outdoor affinity is not gonna make rangers better. get rid o' the ranger crap from the crappy ranger, or get rid o' the ranger. 'course it is too late for our suggestion, so at best we is gonna get half-measures that make rangers less horrible. HA! Good Fun!

dieting isn't the hard part for most people. all the wacky solutions is to help folks find something that works for them. 1) eat less 2) exercise is not particular complicated. however, the reality is that many folks genuine don't have the time to exercise enough, and while eating less can always be done, getting enough & proper nutrition while eating less can be a tougher proposition. getting older and working hard frequent means that you are exhausted all the time. we don't pay any attention to oprah. in the past 15 years we can recall three oprah stories. tom cruise were jumping on her couch professing love for katie holes (sp?) and she claimed that a shop clerk in switzerland or somesuch treated her inappropriately and she suggested that the reason for the mistreatment were 'cause she were black. the third story were interesting 'cause o' a moment o' honesty. cnn were on our tv in the background and for whatever reason, oprah were doing some kinda silly interview; oprah's weight issues became a topic. oprah noted that she has always had weight issues. she gots a personal chef to make food. she gots a personal trainer to help her exercise, and she still has problems. the only reason the story stuck with us is that oprah mentioned how one night she got home late and were exhausted and she were hungry, so she got out some maple syrup and covered a hot dog bun with the sugary stuff. that were her meal. eat less exercise sounds easy. it is easy. the thing is, particularly for folks who has been fat in the past, changing a lifestyle to keep weight off and be healthy is frequent very difficult. is our understanding that the fat cells never go away with dieting, they just kinda shrink. once you got the fat, it is with you forever, and you is far more likely to return to fat than a skinny person is to become fat even if you eat and exercise the same. genetics and a host o' other factors is involved. Gromnir exercises all the time, and it is a chore. one o' these days we is gonna have an illness or condition that prevents us from doing the ridiculous amount o' exercise we currently do. am suspecting that we will have weight issues in our 50s or 60s, 'cause we can't keep up our current rate o' exercise, and our diet is more 'bout eating stuff that tastes good than concerns 'bout health. at the same time, if eating healthy means we subsist on kale and chicken breast, then we would rather die at 70 stead o' 80+. HA! Good Fun!

Because you are operating from the premise that since simply picking up weight and putting it down worked for you, it must work for everyone. In reality, it is not so simple. you have no idea how many times we has beaten that drum for woldan. we keep pointing out the flaws o' seeing general rules o' applicability based on nothing more than personal experience, but he don't learn. one time a virgin accidentally gets fatal knocked off a cliff or killed by a horse contemporaneous with the ending o' a drought or plague. next thing you know, the primitives is lining up their virgins yearly to bring good harvests. we woulda' hoped such nonsense had been abandoned by nearly everybody. HA! Good Fun!

run away is different than leaving the field after a win. you had beaten yourself into insensibility for pages (deja vu) and when it became clear you weren't gonna add anything new, we stopped wasting efforts on what were clearly becoming excessive. "Yep, basic economics, just about the most basic of economics." basic economics that we showed a considerable number o' economists disagreed with you. those yellow journalists were quoting economists. world monetary fund, kurdin, harvard. *shrug* but you can't read a graph, so is to to help you. your attempts to distinguish quotes ain't helping you. am not sure why you keep it up. you first laugh off articles suggesting that russian economy were in dire straits by pointing to the huge currency reserve they gots, a currency reserve that were over $550 billion mid 2013, $500 billion in january o' 2014, and had dropped over $70 billion in the last 4 months o' 2014. Gromnir didn't mention anything 'bout time frames for fail, not until after You misquoted us. you sure as hell couldn't prove context stripping 'cause as our previous link revealed, the two posts we made before your asinine and bass ackwards ejaculation about the quickly vanishing russian currency reserve were little more than links to articles quoting world bank and harvard economists. we did point out that the articles we linked said the fail could come as quick as 6-12 months, in spite o' your claim we said 6 months. again, weren't a Gromnir guess. you then think that by posting an article suggesting that russians' reserve would hold for 18 months were somehow... am not sure what you thought with that. the extra 6 months were what you were thinking showed that russsia weren't facing a dire financial crisis? HA! http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/69691-ukraine-discussion/?p=1570497 context stripping. really? say you proved don't make it so. just as denying any western print source as yellow journalism ain't proof. is... pathetic actually. also, you misquote the kurdin quote, even though you miss the point... again. the ft articles says "up to 40%" but in the context o' explaining that the kurdin believed that sanctions were hurting the ruble more than putin's claims o' 25-30%. naughty. we noted numerous times that western sanctions had had a significant impact on the devaluation o' the ruble. you disagreed. *shrug* we then linked a considerable number o' respected economists such as Kurdin and faayman and wmf and harvard professors. not good enough? your paranoia and suspicion being what it is (more on-topic) we focused on kurdin as he were russian and arguably risking his life by crossing putin. "We mustn't downplay the impact of sanctions … It's a very big blow every year to the Russian economy," you wanna fight over 40% as 'posed to 31%-40%. *chuckle* even putin's evaluation makes western sanctions as having had a greater impact than what you were admitting 'cause o' your inability to read a graph and your clear flawed notion o' "basic economics." if you genuine believe you has done anything in this or the other thread to extricate yourself from your clear buffoonery regarding the russian financial crisis, then you can't be helped. is a given amongst even those folks you has link to (such as bloomberg) that russia's situation is dire. 6-18 months o' reserve depletion when such depletion has been going on for years? not good. and your obstinate denial o' the impact o' western sanctions has now become hinged on the quote o' a russian economist who specific said, "We mustn't downplay the impact of sanctions … It's a very big blow every year to the Russian economy," am not sure what it is with you and the russia stuff. satellite evidence regarding malaysia air = suspicion literal dozens o' sources, including some o' zors, that show how dire and imminent a russian financial collapse appears = suspicion Not suspicious o' the growing pile o' corpses? Not suspicious o' the recent arrest? you are transparent. you are becoming a joke. your best bet would have been to run away or at least pretend your ostrich routine regarding the russian economy had never occurred... wouldn't be a first for you. HA! Good Fun!

I'm reminded of a passage from The War that Never Was that explains why this didn't happen, according to a character who was a former KGB analyst: Because it hadn't gone "hot," no one really considered the idea that the result of the political and economic collapse of the Soviet Union had about the same effect had it lost a conventional shooting war with the First World and its coalition partners. many mistakes made. the myth that the ussr was a military and economic superpower died with the collapse o' the berlin wall. even so, the russian economy and its over-dependence on oil has changed little from the soviet era days. western governments and business were quite happy to take advantage o' russian business following the collapse o' the soviet union, but they ignored the rampant corruption and the dangerous fragility o' the russian economy. ... there is this pervasive paranoia that the west is out to "get" russia. we had to disabuse zor o' this a couple times as we kept repeating that No Western Nation Would Be Pleased to See the Russian Economy Fail... again. we don't want russia to fail. a russia fail is not a good thing. When russia fails, as it inevitably will given current economic conditions, every western nation will suffer, and more than a couple major western business is gonna be shattered. but anybody with a couple firing neurons coulda' seen this coming, because it has happened before. since mid 80s, the US invested far more in china modernization for chrissakes. freaking bass akwards... HA! Good Fun!

http://www.oyez.org/cases/1990-1999/1991/1991_90_7675 the Court is not appreciative o' such nonsense. the flag scenario is a bit different, but note we gots a 9-0 hate speech ordinance decision involving freaking cross burning for chrissakes. a university counts as a State actor, so... is a good learning experience. makes'em look silly and stoopid, but they is University students, so they is almost by definition, silly and stupid. HA! Good Fun! ps we don't wanna diminish what we see as a terribly dangerous notion o' free speech. however, we is talking about flags on a university campus. we would prefer that these kinda battles would be fought over such minutiae with students doing the front-line fighting. edit: our linky vanished

The art installations there and at MCA La Jolla are a bigger draw for me. I'm not a card-carrying member of the museum anymore, but that's because I need beer money nowadays. decades ago we gave a speech down at point loma nazarene college. little flea speck o' a place, but talk about a pretty location. sadly, most o' the buildings were needing renovation/modernization. still, we woulda' loved to have stayed another couple days. HA! Good Fun!

yeah, we get that they is bugnuts, but you see that this is a student-directed resolution on a college campus. so... so what? let them fight it out, and if they somehow win, they can then see how the Court smashes their resolution. is a good learning experience. honestly, we is talking about freaking flags. so the worst-case scenario is the butt-weasel with his peculiar notions o' free speech wins... and ten seconds later somebody such as Gromnir shows up with an injunction that prevents any actual change to the flag policy. HA! Good Fun!

it's University students... and frankly, sometimes we need those largely ignorant idealists to challenge conventional notions. just because a kid is dumb doesn't mean he is wrong. hey, perhaps in the 21st century we need a more euro-centric notion o' freedom o' speech where articles, speeches and symbolic speech that offends a recognized cultural group should be censored and the speaker should be criminalized. we hope that ain't the case and we completely disagree that offensive speech should be illegal (the only speech that needs protection is speech that offends) but we do think it is good that the next generation is challenging our beliefs at a time in their life when they can do so without any lasting harm to their reputation being done. HA! Good Fun! ps back in the early 90s at least, UC santa cruz had an incredibly beautiful campus, and the way they organized their dorms and on-campus housing were kinda unique for a west coast school. pepperdine might have had a marginally more attractive campus than uc santa cruz... maybe. if we had a kid studying astronomy/physics or international finance or a host o' other subjects for which UC santa criuz had national recognition, we would not have hesitated allowing 'em to be a banana slug. undergrad as an aardvark, on the other hand, would have required some convincing.

ran off? HA! we stopped responding to your insanity. sure, there is considerable debate about how long russia can last. because, shucks, future prognostications is always tough. what isn't near as difficult is recognizing that western sanctions has hurt the russian economy and has contributed significant to the devaluation o' the ruble. "Nope, I said that economic sanctions would not severely impact Russia. The oil price is independent of the sanctions and unrelated to them, it's Saudi taking a dump on frackers." "I'll throw in a complementary extra illustration: Bloomberg chart of rouble to oil prices- sanctions and counter sanctions applied March and August. As anyone can see sanctions had sweet asterisk all effect, the exchange rate almost perfectly matches oil prices- which is independent of sanctions." "Oh ffs, if you insist and since this is at least relevant to something I have said instead of your imagination. Your figure, 30% price increase. My figure 100% increase due to exchange rate." etc. and yeah, http://www.ft.com/in...144feabdc0.html, kurdin did use 40% in addition to the other articles observing that,""We mustn't downplay the impact of sanctions … It's a very big blow every year to the Russian economy," Kudrin said at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, the Prime news agency reported." we can post more quotes from kurdin expressing how impactful western sanctions has been. you really need more? "At his annual press conference, Putin blamed the usual suspects for Russia's mess. However, it is his policies or the lack of it, and using oil and gas as a weapon to further Russia's geopolitical interest that has been responsible for the latest currency crisis. Alexi Kurdin, a former finance minister and also an ally of Putin, told Financial Times on Monday that the sanctions have been responsible for 40% of the drip in the Russian currency." again, there were no running away. your attempts to pretend that western sanctions were an insignificant contributor to the devaluation o' the ruble were making you so laughable that we saw no need to continue; why argue with somebody that will have agreement from nobody but the voices talking to them in their head? we didn't realize that it were a Last Post Wins situation. *snort* https://forums.obsidian.net/topic/69691-ukraine-discussion/?p=1570457 this were also a reason we quit the thread as you had complete gone off the deep end. you accused us o' content stripping and other such nonsense when clearly you were fighting the imaginary people in your head. Gromnir had made zero mentions o' time-frames in our posts, but you inexplicably saw such. so yeah, you were doing an ostrich regarding impact o' western sanctions on the Russian economy and trying to makes such sanctions o' negligible impact compared to oil regardless o' folks such as wsj, reuters, bloomberg and Kurdin saying otherwise. go back and look at how many times you used "yellow journalism" to refute a source we provided. that ain't making an argument. you had also turned Gromnir into a boogeyman and you were seeing imaginary stuff from us. so, what were our motivation to continue arguing. all o' which ignores the current topic which is about your comically selective suspicion. HA! Good Fun!

am s'posing it would be more appropriate to say we is part white. our maternal grandmother were half 1/4 polish and 1/4 lithuanian. HA! Good Fun! ps over the years, we has tried not to use our whiteness as an excuse. sure, it is a handicap we must overcome daily, but we persevere even so.

hmmm. it seems we gave up too much. we mean the 3rd fairway, yeah. 3rd. HA! Good Fun!

would be kinda a funny joke on the universe if the only genuine God were the god o' hummus. HA! Good Fun!

you would be correct. 'course we typical just say "bar'war" so you shouldn't listen to us in pronunciation or spelling. as to cant's query, technically we live 45 Long minutes outside ____________ . we got a highway commute, so we is traveling 65 mph (perhaps a smidgen more) most o' the way. however, it ain't like we is a country mouse... not anymore. gated community. we live on the 15th fairway. heck, we evn got that fancy indoor plumbing. not a country mouse. however, we grew up in the armpit o' america: the dakota badlands. spent the first 12.5 years o' our life on a ranch at pine ridge, and every summer thereafter til we went away to University. were reminding us o' our humble beginnings... to build character. apparently shoveling horse $#@% builds character. even now, we is chock full o' character. HA! Good Fun!

hmmm, our barbwire fences could repel sheep, goats, cattle and horses... most o' the time. deer, sadly, had what we estimate as a 5%-10% fail rate. is not that our fencing would stop them, but something a bit greater than ~1 in 20 chance, the deer would almost make it over the fence. "almost" is bad with barbwire. at least once a month we would need repair fencing and remove the carcass o' a deer that mostly made it over the barbwire. found more than a couple coyotes tangled in the wire over the years. we suspect they were chasing something that were small enough to get through the 3 or 5-strand fencing we used. the coyote obviously weren't small enough... but that were just guesses. so, as long as the invaders were limited to near mindless livestock, we believe we had a good chance with our barbwire. unless we is talking of cattle driven to stampede. well, we figure the maginot line didn't fare all that well either. HA! Good Fun!

england built an economic world empire with fences. the enclosure acts were essential for the english industrial revolution. 'course those were typical labor intensive stone walls. hedgerows would be our choice o' fencing, but they take a wee bit more time to erect and they obviously ain't ideal for the dakota badlands. oh well. HA! Good Fun!

Nah. I'm not tired of 'conspiracy theories'. I actually find the term extremely lazy and to be used primarily by people who cannot argue properly as a cheap win, it's as bad as 'well your just wrong!' as an argument. Pretty much the only time I'll use the term is against someone who is oh so fond of it using it themselves, hence the :smug: Indeed, the only 'arguments' I find more lazy than 'conspiracy theory' are outright abuse, and "you must be paid to say that". I far prefer 'narrative following' or similar, it's more neutral since basically everyone does it, it doesn't imply that they're automatically wrong or paranoid delusional, just that they're human and as all humans do, like stories. You get people working back from conclusions and either ignoring evidence or having some sort of cognitive dissonance about things, but 'conspiracy theory' is just a lazy, unimaginative and really rather feeble label for a narrative that someone wants to discredit and cannot think of a better way of doing so. (Now waiting to be told how I was actually entirely serious and the :smug: meant... god only knows what. Given I'm complaining about working back from conclusions that would be most highly ironic) your revisionism, not Gromnir's. your sources is clear minority regarding wsj pov. is why we offered links to reuteurs and bbc, and a host o' others. the notion that western sanctions is not hurting russia's economy, and that the pain the russian economy is only tied to oil is such a minority pov that it is not even worth mentioning. again, why the suspicion o' Alexei Kudrin? hell, you even misread graphs that hurt your position showing the disproportionate plummeting o' the ruble compared to other oil-dependent currencies. and round we go. regardless, is funny how little suspicion zor has for some stories. HA! Good Fun! ps one wonders how many times we can double "and" in a post. sheesh.

sure, we discount sources... individually. mindlessly discount an entire group because o' imagined allegiance to an idea or some kinda plot to make russia look bad? HA! Good Fun!

discounting all such sources as yellow journalism? dismissing such sources as the wsj 'cause Rupert Murdoch owns rather than giving specifics? yeah, conspiracy explains better. western journalists is purposefully trying to make russia look bad. western journalists is conspiring to make russia look bad. starve on the difference, eh? HA! Good Fun!