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*sigh* never made such a claim. from a legal pov, is no difference 'tween setting the blm sign ablaze or a cross or a nativity scene if one is to determine if vandalism occurred. you said, "Burning a terrorist group sign is not vandalism." the nativity display is personal property and an attachment no more or less than the blm signage. is vandalism and is no question 'bout that. skarp_one is wrong on the vandalism point. also, from a legal pov, the nativity display is no more a part o' the church than the sign. is personal property attached to real property. start asking your imagined 10k where line is drawn as to what is the church and am betting they is gonna have difficulty distinguishing the nativity scene, grave markers, religious symbols and statuary. how 'bout a sign affixed above the church doorway asking passersby to pray for our soldiers overseas? the proud boys and skarp_one will dig in heals over the blm signage, but from a legal and logical pov, is no difference 'tween the sign and the nativity display or a statue o' saint francis. no. strawman to your heart's content but you will do so solo. but again, destruction o' the sign, even if the sign offends the sensibilities o' skarp_one and the proud boys, is vandalism and were undeniable attached to church property before it were removed and destroyed. HA! Good Fun!

we literal just quoted you focusing on the message. might need that mouse medicine in the science discoveries thread if you forget so quick. again, if we were told that a nativity scene set ablaze on the lawn o' the church were vandalism o' a church, is doubtful many o' those 10k would quibble. no difference 'tween the nativity scene or a cross in the yard being set ablaze. and ask those same 10k if burning a blm sign counts as vandalism and save for the proud boys and skarp_one, is doubtful any agree. keep talking. HA! Good Fun!

it is you doing the gymnastics. the phrase does indeed describe what occurred as we noted attachments count as the property itself for purposes o' vandalism. a church was vandalized from the legal sense. again, keep in mind a nativity scene on the church lawn woulda' counted as vandalism o' a church if some random ne'er-do-well had set such on fire and is doubtful many would quibble over the such a recognition. curiously, is skarp_one who focused on the message o' the attachment in question-- a blm sign does not count as property possible o' being vandalized in skarp_one's curious world... coulda' focused on the nature o' the signage as movable or temporary, but instead skarp_one focused on the message. as we noted already, am suspecting you have managed to identify what would be the key difference 'tween a cross, nativity scene or blm sign 'pon church property as far as the proud boys willingness to commit crimes involving a church. as such, your gymnastics is illuminating. once again you managed to out yourself. thanks. HA! Good Fun!

"“ISRIB’s extremely rapid effects show for the first time that a significant component of age-related cognitive losses may be caused by a kind of reversible physiological “blockage” rather than more permanent degradation,” said Susanna Rosi, PhD, Lewis and Ruth Cozen Chair II and professor in the departments of Neurological Surgery and of Physical Therapy and Rehabilitation Science." if it works, even if only in mice, it fundamental changes what we thought we knew 'bout brain disorders, particular those linked to age. HA! Good Fun!

is it wrong we hoped that when the train reached the end of the tracks it would explode in a shower of red and green pyrotechnics? possible pipe in screams o' those imaginary passengers caught in the multi-hued conflagration? ... might lose some o' the good dad points you had earned with the decorating if you take our suggestion and implement. probable best to follow your own judgement in this matter. though am thinking tim burton would agree with us. regardless, am applauding you for doing the christmas thing right. good on you. HA! Good Fun!

@everybody never listen to skarpen_one when law is at issue. enter real property to take physical property which does not belong to you and then destroy it will be considered, at the very least, vandalism in every US jurisdiction known to us. HA! Good Fun!

am not certain what this says 'bout Gromnir, but first thing we thought o' when @Gorth mentioned 80s music nostalgia were the following movie bit. is a song by the call, performed by some guy who no doubt has a name but we always identify as "the sax man." everything 'bout the scene screams 80s... although the song itself coulda' been a staple on those religious rock stations in the south and midwest as is faith focused... wouldn't be surprised to hear it right before an amy grant song on the play list. using in the lost boys context as it were is only that much more 80s. HA! Good Fun!

looks like a tuna. applause for going the extra kilometer? HA! Good Fun!

his comments has a tendency o' illuminating his own shortcomings. burn a cross or nativity scene on the property o' the church? burn a blm sign on property o' the church? legal no difference as to question o' vandalism o' "the church." legal, the church is not just the building but the property and those permanent and temporary affixtures at the property. however, skarp_one sees a fundamental difference... and am sad to admit he is likely correct as to why the proud boys, who went on their recent dc violence spree, saw burning of signage as ok. as such, if we ever question the hypocrisy o' the prod boys, we need only ask skarp_one to clarify the disconnect as he appears to have a finger on the pulse o' that notorious and abominable organization. congrats? quasi related: HA! Good Fun!

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the pandemic accelerated a trend. we sympathize-- villenueve is a victim o' bad luck or unfortunate timing. both. we expect a director to fight for a movie in which he has invested so much, but some kinda special dune exception does not seem likely in spite o' fact we were looking forward to it. after all, the industry were changing. the industry has changed. we rare go to theatre releases and am expecting we will do so less and less in the coming years. no matter how comfy you make the seats or how fantastic is the sound system, theatres is still dying. HA! Good Fun!

you kinda missed the relevant part. no surprise. ain't just a couple o' loons on the arse end o' the internet or a celebrity who is doing interviews while drunk. we were responding to gd observation 'bout the texas ag. btw, all those celebs you mentioned were soundly criticized by fellow liberals and the media as a whole, although am not knowing "one of the ladies on the view" as a relevant example. sarah silverman, however, immediate walked back her comment and apologized. diamond and silk apologized? missed it. am sure you will share when it happens. also, unlike the celebs you mentioned, those two is gal pals o' the sitting President who has retweeted their nonsense ramblings on multiple occasions, so is perhaps not as analogous as you suggest. those +100 congressman who supported the amicus brief for the recent dismissed scotus texas case has condemned diamond and silk? share it when it happens. btw, trump still hasn't appealed his 3rd circuit appeal loss from two weeks previous. trump appointee in a district court just posterized trump with the following admonishment: "This is an extraordinary case. A sitting president who did not prevail in his bid for reelection has asked for federal court help in setting aside the popular vote based on disputed issues of election administration, issues he plainly could have raised before the vote occurred. This Court has allowed plaintiff the chance to make his case and he has lost on the merits. In his reply brief, plaintiff "asks that the Rule of Law be followed." It has been." dismissed with prejudice. real republicans, a handful o' them in the courts and in positions o' authority in georgia and arizona, has shown they understand what it means to be governed by laws as 'posed to the tweet rants o' a petty would-be autocrat who managed to hijack his party w/o ever winning an election by popular vote. we also listened in on the wisconsin supreme court hearing today... arguably the most blatant republican Court majority in any state. when speaking o' judges, there is a big difference 'tween conservative and republican, and the majority o' wisconsin judges is republican. am admitting we were surprised when multiple judges called out trump efforts as racist--such is the first time we has heard a judge do so in one o' these election cases. didn't happen with detroit or philadelphia cases. jill karofsky, one o' the non-partisan judges on the court 'bout whom we knew almost nothing before today, were particular dismissive o' trump and his attorney, calling their efforts "unamerican" and blasting the unsubstantiated and general accusations o' fraud absent any meaningful offers o' proof. the overt republican judges o' the wisconsin supreme court were a bit more reserved in their criticism, but there is no mystery 'bout the future o' trump's last gasp efforts in wisconsin now that the court has adjourned. HA! Good Fun!

so mix metaphors o' bears, flavors and saints where gd embraces his they-are-all-bad security blanket and then immediate falls into a predictable pattern o' repeating unhinged conspiracy doggerel https://www.axios.com/china-spy-california-politicians-9d2dfb99-f839-4e00-8bd8-59dec0daf589.html has been no contact 'tween fang and swalwell for years. fang left the country in 2015. two midwestern mayors had sexual relations with fang, but is no mention o' swalwell. as such am thinking is safe to assume hasn't been any extra-marital hijinks 'tween swalwell and fang for at least five years. is no doubt many chinese operatives current attending bay area and socal schools. if such folks manage to get close enough to politicians to learn which o' 'em is alcoholics, are having extramarital affairs or have financial problems, am not gonna pretend to be shocked. is unfortunate, but is kinda a cost o' a relative open society, no? as long as swalwell and others had sense enough not to share sensitive information with chinese, pakistani, or american students, am gonna write off this newest conspiracy as trump loyalists trying to create dirt on enemies with folks such as gd being all too willing to buy into the silliness. fbi didn't find evidence swalwell shared sensitive info? where is the story? 'course multiple us intelligence agencies didn't manage to find dirt on joe biden and that didn't stop gd from indulging in those conspiracy theories either. aside, as a student at berkeley in the mid/late 80s, we assumed a number o' the chinese national students in our department were "agents." in fact we dated a girl from china who spoke english at least as well as Gromnir. more than once we joked that she were probable a spy but that she were wasting her time with a physics undergrad and football player as the biggest secrets we knew were who were gonna be on the football team ir report before such stuff got published and could affect the vegas line. honest, for us the only odd thing 'bout the story were that fang were a student at the 80th ranked regional university in the west. our educational arrogance shines through, eh? assumed the spies were all at caltech, berkeley, ucla, stanford, etc. we also just kinda assumed most o' those student/spies were stem and were looking for tech info as posed to easily acquired dirt on local politicians. HA! Good Fun!

simplistic transactional thinking is exact what put us in this situation in the first place. how many republicans repeated dismissed the shortcomings and excesses o' trump 'cause keeping his base happy would win them reelection? divided government ain't a win once you consider the costs. fox poll says 68% o' republicans believe the election were rigged and trump were robbed. if true that means more than 100 million americans believe the conspiracy theories? Pro-Trump Pundits Diamond and Silk Tweet Cry for Military Intervention After Supreme Court Dashes Hopes for Election Overturn as you noted, those ladies is hardly alone in their demands for solutions which four years ago woulda' been considered insane by near everybody and it is trump who inspired this? the board trumpers is quiet for the moment, but you recall 'em talking 'bout the existential crisis biden and the democrats posed and am knowing gd on some level agreed with the assessment. this election fight IS an existential crisis and 2016 gd woulda' seen that fact more clear than does 2020 gd. the thing is, the election conspiracy theories is just the latest in a long line o' Constitutional violations and subversions o' democratic norms. we got here not in one giant post election leap. were a progression o' transactional decisions which made the next seeming unpalatable choice more acceptable by comparison. oh, and the last four years is not a situation where democrats woulda been doing the exact same thing which am knowing some posters need convince self o' to legitimize their curious worldview. HA! Good Fun!

am from the dakotas, and is less a gene thing than environmental... rusted out ford pickups, endless barbwire fences and the indescribable silence o' an arrow-straight highway which stretches two-lanes without a vehicle in sight all the way to the horizon under a sky so blue it would make your heart weep. we grew up with one foot in a stirrup and busting our arse on a ranch where you never quite caught up with all the work which needed be done. bruce doing a bit o' country on his last couple albums speaks to something fundamental in us. ... am suspecting the sacrilegious aspect o' the final offering may appeal to @Gorth HA! Good Fun!

time travel. why did it have to be time travel? am accepting whatever ridicule is directed at us as you got our admission to being a smidge intrigued by loki, but why did it have to be time travel? HA! Good Fun!

This state just announced the strictest coronavirus lockdown in the country is a serious loophole in the travel restrictions. one o' our neighbors had reservations for the weekend at a place in santa cruz, and santa cruz county is not current facing a travel restriction. so the neighbors asked us to look after their dog for a few days... asked us for the favor this AM. so, our neighbors, who live in a travel restricted county, may go to santa cruz and enjoy a spa day and a couple nights at an oceanside inn. neighbors should not travel as a mini-vacation is hardly an essential activity, but the santa cruz county hotel will honor their reservation. *sigh* shoulda declined as we got a new dog and one o' the established pack members recent had surgery to remove a' granuloma tumor-- learned yesterday after a week-long wait that the tumor is benign. as such am having our hands relative full with dog issues beyond the typical chaos o' casa de Gromnir. am also objecting to the neighbors flouting covid-19 protocols. oh, and is raining... hard. one o' our dogs has become increasing spooked by loud noises including thunder and even the howling winds which accompany heavy rain. will be an interesting few days. HA! Good Fun!

won't stop until at least january 6, 2021. there will be a few loyalist trumpers in Congress who force a vote on the electoral college results. "few" is a sad understatement as 106 house republicans signed the amicus brief to the recent dismissed texas case... 106 who claimed trump lost 'cause of "unconstitutional ballots." we knew trump would burn everything w/i reach on his way out the door, but am admitted surprised just how many republicans has gone along with trump's autocratic rejection o' democracy. the media has done a disservice by underplaying the threat posed by trump's post election meltdown. a handful o' republican election officials and and a similar number o' judges were the difference. if even a few had chosen trump over the law... isn't over. is mostly over and will be even closer to over after monday. nevertheless, the rough beast will vomit forth at least one more bit o' chaos and ignominy on january 6, 2021 as dozens o' US Congressmen repeat vacuous conspiracy theory and rail 'gainst democracy from the floor o' the senate and house. four years ago we never woulda' imagined... never coulda' imagined trump would be the guy to come so close to destroying it all, and is not as if trump gone fixes everything neither. edit Sidney Powell’s secret witness ‘Spyder’ is an IT consultant. He told The Post he never worked in military intelligence. Merritt formed his own firm, Cyberoptyx, in 2019. He said the company — which consists of himself and a handful of contractors — specializes in building “cyberinfrastructure” such as making websites and setting up servers. It also does 3-D printing. ... a side career as an elections security expert might be even more lucrative than dancing. @ShadySands might wanna consider the possibilities. HA! Good Fun!

so, take one part the mission from amazing stories (1985), and one part nightmare at 20,000 feet, then add in a bit o' sucker punch. am hopeful the loc-nar is in the box 'cause alternatives is all worse. HA! Good Fun!

gonna admit +80% o' the time we consider making shepherd's pie, we end up making cottage pie. we use yukon gold instead o' russet and am perhaps a bit heavy-handed on the worcestershire pour. HA! Good Fun!

fed rule 11 every state has an analogous provision... typically identified as "rule 11." so, yes, but... can the lawyers be punished is different than will they be punished. rule 11 is considered an extraordinary measure. ... the thing is, more than a few o' these lawsuits is pushing any reasonable boundary. example is a recent arizona case where the judge identified the factual offerings o' a kraken lawsuit as little more than a mess of "innuendo and gossip," and am actual leaving out some o' the more colorful observations from the ruling. so, why not sanctions? keep in mind more than a few state judges is elected and not for life as with fed appointments, but am not able to give you a good answer. is a few courts contorting themselves into knots avoiding sanctions, as with a detroit case a couple weeks previous where trump campaign lawyers overt lied 'bout affidavits. lies to court 'bout facts is kinda a guarantee o' sanctions and may result in criminal prosecution o' the offending lawyer. a few o' the withdrawn cases by trump and the kraken layers were no doubt withdrawn 'cause o' warnings o' sanctions. meritless is not same as frivolous and insane legal theories is not gonna get the sanction treatment. the texas case getting attention today is meritless as it posits an asinine theory o' standing which would complete unravel the court system as we know it, and am not indulging in hyperbole. however, heretofore "insane" legal theories has been adopted by the Court more than once. is nevertheless a grey area. please keep in mind we has stated previous how rudy's equal protection silliness were insane 'cause o' the relief he were seeking and not necessarily 'cause o' the legal theory itself. underrepresented groups has for decades been trying to change discriminatory election laws based on equal protection theories-- almost universal fails. what made rudy claims preposterous were the relief he sought and as judge ultimate tailors relief, is unlikely gonna result in sanctions. can request relief o' 100 trillion dollars 'cause you claim to have found a partial denture in your wendy's frosty is nuts, but is not rule 11 fodder. absence o' any supporting facts will result in sanctions although absence o' facts at the time the lawsuit is filed ain't even enough to draw a judicial response. if lawyers may show they believed they would eventual have necessary facts to support their theories, they may avoid sanctions. the thing is, the kraken and trump campaign lawsuits has more than once drifted deep into the hunt sic dracones area o' the map. to provide nothing save the mere possibility o' fraud is not legit and should result in sanctions. "innuendo and gossip"? much o' what makes trump campaign lawsuits frivolous from a plain english reading o' rule 11 will be resulting in confusion. ask for stoopid relief or have a wacky legal theory won't necessarily make a lawsuit frivolous. however, attorneys knowing mislead 'bout facts should be a no-brainer for judges considering sanctions, and such has been the situation more than once post november 3. am admitted a bit confused even if am knowing threat o' sanctions no doubt killed more than a couple trump and kraken lawsuits which is why there were so many voluntary dismissals. HA! Good Fun!

the terrible reality is trump is winning where it matters most: his pac bank account. these ridiculous lawsuits has resulted in millions o' dollars in legal fees, but trump campaign pac solicitations has garnered hundreds o' millions o' dollars in contributions. trump may even believe he were cheated, but am suspecting his primary goal at this point is more 'bout money than electoral college votes. given his reported enormous debt which comes due over the course o' the next couple years, as well as multiple pending criminal and civil legal fights, am tending to believe trump is more focused on what happens to citizen trump after january 20, 2021 as 'posed to the fantasies o' another four years in office. sure, remain President would be a bonus for trump and would keep him out of rikers, but hundreds o' millions o' dollars in post election contributions for a campaign which were in the red on november 3, 2020 is a kinda win. is hard to believe, but is a no-lose scenario for trump. win in court means trump remains President, but win in court would mean an end to the court battles which is a money generating machine. converse, losing in court has the curious effect o' prolonging the money grab. remain President or continue to see mind boggling millions o' dollars funneled into the trump pac? where is the down side? the legal losses is an enormous scam and is all perfect legal in part 'cause o' f'ing citizens united. we would laugh at trump losses if not for fact his working class base is paying for this newest Presidential ponzi scheme, and those blue collar patriots don't even realize they is being scammed. although we can't help but wonder if a few o' the sudden taciturn obsidian board trump supporters contributed to the myriad legal defense efforts o' the President... such would indeed be good for a laugh. at this point am doubting the board trumpers would admit if they had made such contributions, but you never know. have been shocked more than once by the stuff the trump faithful is willing to admit to and am even more puzzled by the perverse pride exhibited by the those who see their muslim ban grifter as the champion for the marginalized working class americans. surreal. HA! Good Fun!

we would try and explain the current disposition o' trump campaign and kraken lawsuits. but am not sure where to start or finish. is a wisconsin trump lawsuit which names biden and harris as defendants as if either has any capacity to change ballots in wisconsin. texas, in a bid to get direct to scotus, has named a handful o' other states as defendants. is creative, but wholly w/o merit. the texas state solicitor who is responsible for arguing before scotus is noticeable absent from the texas complaint. were a few wacky kraken lawsuits where expert witnesses were anonymous and did not make selves available to respond to the court... which is decided not how expert testimony works. these ain't intelligence assets having their identity kept secret to protect national security. kraken cases keep being dismissed for failure to show proof o' fraud. more fundamental, the kraken claims almost universal fail to show proper standing and the courts furthermore observe how the redress being sought is... insane-- disenfranchisement o' millions o' voters 'cause o' either minor clerical quibbles or unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. the pennsylvania fed case which were shot down by the appellate court last week has yet to be filed with scotus, which severe undermines the suggestion the real goal were to get scotus review. more curious, the weird pennsylvania supreme court case involving a gop state legislator who won his election bid and were nevertheless seeking redress from the court for his injury, has been appealed to scotus, although the case were decided complete on state law so is near nothing genuine reviewable by a fed court, so even if the gop legislator managed a favorable scotus decision, it wouldn't make any difference as the state issues would continue to preclude any sorta meaningful outcome. oh, and jenna ellis, the other trump lawyer, has tested positive for covid 'ccording to multiple sources. today is safe harbor day for electoral college, which in theory means all states should concluded legal challenges. UPDATE: the scotus case we mentioned 'bove wherein a state representative o' pennsylvania submitted an application for injunctive relief is doa-- denied via a single-sentence ruling. HA! Good Fun!

as a child we knew there were no santa. however, we were not told santa's non-existence were a state secret to be kept from all children under the age of ____. the santa subject did come up once when we were attending school in first grade. off reservation. so, back in the early 70s, a native kid (Gromnir) accidental ruined christmas for a dozen or so white kids in south dakota. caused a bit o' a p00p storm for our grandparents who were raising us... and we got a talking to from school vice principal and a couple teachers. ... 'course we also told or sister that she were adopted... which wasn't true. HA! Good Fun!

the anticipated trump phone call with Justice Barrett: am wondering when somebody gets around to informing trump that Justices have lifetime appointments. HA! Good Fun!