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covid-19 situation is getting worse in az, and the delta is not good. a possible slowdown o' already plodding pace o' the remaining ballot count is likely. however, 5pm today is the deadline for curing ballots. HA! Good Fun!

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/ 2020 presidential has been far more accurate than most suggest. is all the other stuff which failed. polarization made the closeness o' the Presidential race less surprising than may claim, but am thinking the degree o' polarization somehow caught many off guard. down ballot didn't work as expected. polls were too blunt, which is why Presidential ended up reasonable accurate, but as you narrowed focus, the polls got worse and worse. HA! Good Fun!

assuming trump leaves the wh voluntarily, he will be facing almost a dozen criminal and civil charges/cases. am suspecting trumpTV becomes a thing almost asap if for no other reason than that trump is gonna need a whole lotta money yesterday to pay off a massive amount o' debt. as such we will be hearing from trump constant until he ends up doing time, which is increasing likely... but a convicted felon may nevertheless run for President. ... based on typical time frames for such stuff, trump's tax fraud cases will probable only start in 2023, which is when he would need be campaigning. HA! Good Fun! ps am gonna need check, but more than a few states preclude felons from appearing on their ballots.

as an aside, even our generalization 'bout biden underperforming in urban areas is kinda wrong. for example, in atlanta, biden did fantastic and way better than clinton. am thinking automatic registration and young people voting made the biggest difference in georgia, and we would like to see auto-registration become ubiquitous, but regardless, current polling is based on overbroad generalizations and those generalizations need be tailored a fair amount if they is gonna prove useful in the future. HA! Good Fun!

they are waiting for trump support among his base to diminish, and that ain't happening. HA! Good Fun!

biden actual underperformed in urban areas. biden did better than did clinton as a matter o' % as posed to total votes in college towns not in the major urban locations and he did better in the burbs. biden also managed to shrink the losing margin in a few key rural areas. philadelphia, for example, were +63 for biden, but it were +67 for clinton. converse, erie were +1 for biden... and were +2 for trump in 2016. overall, latinos voted same percentages for biden as clinton. +33. by now we have all seen those maps o' texas and florida, yes? biden ran a digital campaign which didn't genuine start 'til 'bout 100 days before the election. 'cause o' covid, the biden campaign were barebones as far as emphasizing personal involvement. perfect reasonable. given covid, it were kinda irresponsible to be going door to door and holding in-person events, but irresponsible didn't stop republicans from mounting an effective targeted campaign. biden, when all is said and done, will have a +5 million popular vote advantage, but because his campaign were unfocused, he underperformed in key geographic areas. in 2016, clinton didn't bother to show up in wisconsin and michigan. in 2020, biden made similar mistakes even if the reasons were understandable and perhaps even unavoidable. weren't that biden skipped campaigning in florida, but he focused on digital media and tv advertising and that clear didn't get the job done in dade county. the various minority populations in this country are polled as if they are monolithic, and that is obvious a mistake. for example, cuban latinos in florida is not same as those in nyc or even california. pretend as if latinos everywhere have same needs and will vote similar is a persistent democrat mistake and is gonna be a tough obstacle to overcome when party itself is almost as polarized as is democrats and republicans. will be interesting to see what democrats learn from their post mortem. HA! Good Fun!

+72 million americans will have voted for trump once all ballots are tallied, and trump is not a republican in any traditional sense. deficit spending. boarderwalls. tariffs and trade wars. distancing self from nato. nevertheless, trump has redefined the party. 70% o' those 72 million trump faithful believe he won the election. loeffler, who is in that senate runoff in georgia, made it a cornerstone o' her campaign that that she is 100% in lockstep agreement with trump on every issue. GOP Senator Says She’s ‘Not Familiar’ With Trump’s Infamous ‘Access Hollywood’ Tape is likely trump will be extreme busy fighting legal battles the next few years, but he is gonna remain the most influential voice in the party for some time. given how trumpers has bought into the faith, am not certain what it will take to end his influence. release documents and compel witnesses to testify once there is no executive privilege may prove just how far trump broke the law to serve himself rather than america, and it still won't make a difference 'cause trump's faithful follow him because of what he says as 'posed to what he has done. am agreeing many traditional republicans want to distance themselves from trump, but they are more concerned with getting reelected than freeing themselves from chaos and pettiness. trump is bigger than the party even if he does leave office. and please recall the main reason trump fired esper is 'cause the former secretary o' defense made it clear he would not sign off on using US military troops to suppress civilians. gd may not believe the US government as a whole (whatever that means) has any reluctance to exact violence on the citizenry o' this nation, but the military brass disagree. it should worry people that trump, who is refusing to concede, replaced a defense secretary who wouldn't legitimize the use o' US military troops to quell protests.

complete unrelated, but our second favorite Congressman is a progressive, lesbian, lawyer (JD from from cornell) and ex-mma fighter who trained at pine ridge for a few years when she were active. congrats on ms. davids winning the kansas 3rd district in 2020. 2nd term. HA! Good Fun!

unlikely. proof is an issue for criminal and you are needing a beyond a reasonable doubt kinda standard for any possible criminal. knowing misrepresent mueller report is criminal and TWO federal judges accused barr o' doing just that... which in any other administration woulda' been huge headline news and woulda' had the nation and media going nuts. hardly anybody noticed. still, one need prove actual criminal intent and am thinking most o' us forget just how difficult it is to reach that level. virtual everything skeevy action barr engaged in will have contemporaneous memos showing he did so with the belief he were following the law and giving legal explanations for his behaviour. gonna be extreme difficult to prove criminal intent for somebody such as barr. more significant is fact the proper remedy is impeachment. you wanna wait on this senate impeaching barr? HA! Good Fun!

didn't know we had to provide every misstatement and mischaracterization by aoc. we offered multiple as well as her own quote on the relative importance o' factual accuracy. again, as seems to have been forgotten already, in response to a a misrepresentation o' pentagon spending (so, another example,) she opined, "I think that there's a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right." and you are assuming we don't like aoc politics. progressives don't bother us. am bothered by folks such as bernie and aoc who make grandiose statements and promises w/o saying exact how their programs is gonna work in the real world. economic, elizabeth warren is as much o' a progressive as bernie and aoc, and while we criticized her native american stuff and her tax scheme, feel free to review the democrat debate coverage on this board. with perhaps one exception we observed how warren were the best prepared and most effective debater on stage. we liked warren. we preferred booker and klobuchar to bernie and the progressives, but find where we criticize warren 'bout anything save the native american stuff and her tax-the-rich scheme. converse, find where we has said positive 'bout aoc. not hard... 'cause we are fair. as much as we do not like how aoc ignores need to provide facts and seems not to care if facts is accurate when she presents 'em, we observed aoc were fantastic cross-examining cohen when he had to testify before congress. we also observed how while her claims that rich people were getting covid tests in march were unsupported by evidence, the fact the entire oklahoma thunder team managed to get tested when the entire state o' oklahoma had less than 200 available tests proved her correct... which is actual yet another example o' aoc making claims w/o facts and evidence. am fair. like with bush and wmds, blix and Gromnir criticized the cherry picking and the lack o' patience regarding inspections... but both Gromnir and blix disagreed with claims o' willful lies... whereas zor quoted a report which concluded no willful lies were made, but you attempted to bend the quote to fit your belief. opposite o' what Gromnir and blix did. so thanks for once again, in your tiresome and predictable way, bringing up the wmd bit. we criticized the US regarding how they handled wmd intelligence, and we were even more critical o' how the US did indeed lie 'bout post invasion troop estimates required for regime building. we don't have any difficulty calling the US liars... when lies is told. am fair. zor might try and be more like blix... or Gromnir for that matter. HA! Good Fun! ps blix wmd berkeley

makes sense, 'cause have not seen any estimate of remaining georgia votes which exceeds 5,000 much less 12,000. saw one estimate which suggested GA total votes remaining could be less than 500. DOJ official steps down over Barr's voter fraud investigation memo am knowing some folks may believe Gromnir is exaggerating the possible threat trump and barr pose in this post election situation, but pilger quit in an effort to make a statement 'bout just how wrong this all is. this ain't normal. this isn't right. trump and barr are not constrained by rules and norms. if the senate won't stop trump and barr, they can do just about anything. mitch mcconnell, lindsey graham and the other senate republicans is the people who will ultimate be responsible for making sure trump doesn't go too far, whatever that means, in this brave new world we have created.

... anybody wanna let mick in on the news that there is less than 55k votes left to be counted in az, and ~4k o' those is needing be cured by 5pm tomorrow or they go in the round file along with all those ballots the USPS failed to deliver on time? poor dear. trump can still win az. a bit better than 1/2 votes remaining is from red counties, but they is mostly provisional which makes 'em less red if they follow trends. the other 27k votes is from maricopa and pima, and pima has been skewing better than +20 for biden since election day. could be less than a 5k vote gap, but needs be something like 200 total for a recount. HA! Good Fun! ps am not certain what it will take to call georgia. perhaps waiting 'til after the anticipated recount?

shoulda' stayed loathe to do what you invariably do... 'cause as we has noted innumerable times, we criticized the US govt. for cherry picking only the intelligence supporting their wmd beliefs. we observed, as did blix, that the US were so convinced o' a conclusion that they ignored the intelligence which did not support the conclusion. blizx admitted he thought the iraqi's had wmds as late as the winter before the invasion. were foolish. US were stoopid. were wrong. not sure how many times we need say. however, were no knowing mistruth. blix and Gromnir agree and were once again zor reading and twisting specific quotes out of context to reach a conclusion no supported by the senate finding you quoted... or blix, who you claimed agreed with your assessment o' US lies. aoc is also stoopid all too often. she only sees what she wants to see. she willful ignores evidence which would diminish her cause and just pulls nonsense outta thin air, like the bread silliness, to lend credence to what she believes. bs artists made worse because she believes she is moral right. her and **** cheney should get along. and as for chairchucker "that strong"? *snort* r we stated, "aoc recent tweeted and did interviews claiming how the progressive platform actual insulated democrats from failure." just one article providing example. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/08/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-ends-truce-by-warning-incompetent-democratic-party again, how would you react if trump did similar? create a chart with covid-19 death rate compared to total cases as 'posed to total population. similar funny number nonsense to make a point. sure, you can argue the validity, but is a misrepresentation. you defend 'cause you like her and her policy and when trump does similar... converse, we criticize both aoc and trump when they pull similar shenanigans. she told you what her priorities are and it don't bother you. factual accuracy matters less than being moral right? HA! Good Fun! ps blix berkeley wmd and kp should know reposting paywall articles in full is a copyright violation... and wrong.

you didn't say anything new in the rest o' the post. and again, aoc came right out and admitted she prioritizes moral right over factual accuracy. even now you aren't willing to call her out over her claim o' moral right v. factual accuracy. avoiding does not strengthen your defense. aoc didn't apologize for her theft o' bread mistake or hoax mistakes or her campaign funding claims or her attempt to recharacterize the difficulty o' running as a progressive democrat in a country that looks very red when you get outside of major metropolitan areas. just like trump. yeah, trump does more often. he is constant talking and constant lying. aoc just doesn't seem to care 'bout facts 'cause again, as she said, it is better to be moral right than factual accurate. you like her policies. as for az... we explained above how trump is fighting in multiple states to delegitimize the vote counts, and all he really needs is a couple o' judges to delay long enough to give republican legislatures in states such as michigan and pennsylvania an excuse and time to overturn the results o' the election. say it can't happen? say republicans wouldn't go so far? haven't been paying attention these past 4 years. trump will do anything. he won't need work near so hard to break american democracy if a state such as az ends up going his way. also, fox and ap called az for biden. if az goes red, it proves to trumpers that the media calling elections is obviously flawed. az and georgia may not be necessary, but this is a post trump world in which we live. have you never watched a zombie film? HA! Good Fun!

why should it matter? call out the wrong. if you don't call out a wrong when it is your guy, what does that make you? this were the biggest single drop o' the day, and pretty much all red counties has exhausted everything but provisionals and those ballots waiting to be cured. https://arizona.vote/ballot-progress.html am suspecting yavapai will release a significant % o' their remaining 1300 tabulated this eve, and those should be serious in favor o' trump. isn't over, but is a tough road for trump to gain enough with the remaining votes being mostly maricopa and pima. HA! Good Fun!

dear lord. the hypocrisy is thick. if trump, in defense o' his misleading statements and factual inaccuracies defended by observing it were more important to be moral right than factual accurate, would chairchucker or any other aoc fan let trump forget it? *shakes head sadly* some folks never change. you accuse others o' the sins for which you most frequent commit. HA! Good Fun!

hardly thefts were down 7%... homicides up +20% the thing is, is fun to call out trump and is easy Tapper: I Did Not Fact Check AOC "Mischaracterizing" Trump Because He Didn't Say The Truth Either different treatment? why? in the more liberal media homesteads, they like aoc. trump does fail fact checks more than aoc... but is 'cause of volume. on a per statement basis? dunno. we assume both is talking out their arse until we verify. as we noted earlier, the last time we heard aoc making public statements, she were clear misleading. only days ago. the democrats in rural parts o' this country who failed to win their elections would not have had a better showing if they embraced medicare for all. duh. trying to spin numbers to create an alternate reality is gaslighting whether is aoc doing or trump. if you can't call out both when they do same bad thing, then you are no better. HA! Good Fun!

aoc recent tweeted and did interviews claiming how the progressive platform actual insulated democrats from failure. the chart she presented were misleading and failed pretty much every fact check site. also ignored how inconvenient fact that the overt medicare for all folks were not running in the contested elections 'cross the country. were obvious suicide for a democrat running in rural iowa to champion medicare for all, but the progressive platform were nevertheless ammunition for republicans running against rural iowa democrats. aoc tries to turn reality on its head. sorry you can't read all, but aoc has been extreme misleading... and if you haven't gone to fact check sites to see 4 pinocchios and pants on fire fact checks from the past year or less, then is 'cause you don't wanna look. and am not saying the progressive platform doesn't deserve a seat at the table or is bad for the party. all am saying is that aoc is willing to use bad and misleading facts because she believes there are, "a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right." she is not such a person. aoc needs learn moral right and factual accurate is hardly mutual exclusive, and her legitimacy is undercut everytime she ignores facts or purposeful misleads in an effort to promote what she believes is moral right. HA! Good Fun!

*sigh* if the election cannot be deemed legit until every hairbrained conspiracy theory, no matter how improbable, is proved impossible, then we will never have a resolution. we would never have a resolution... evar. as to aoc, we didn't need go back 2 years... a couple days. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/08/trailer-democrats-won-white-house-lost-myth-about-turnout/ Justice Democrats, the group founded after 2016 to elect Democrats such as Ocasio-Cortez, whipped together a chart of the wins and losses in key districts to argue that candidates who rejected Medicare-for-all, among other left-wing goals, did worse than those who didn't. “The swing-district Democrats who fell off the most from their 2018 results were more conservative than the candidates who outperformed their 2018 results,” said Justice Democrats spokesman Waleed Shahid. The chart was not convincing to many Democrats. It made calculations about results in New York, for example, that will be altered when absentee ballots are counted, and it counted Democrats who had co-sponsored left-wing bills as left-wing candidates; many, such as Maine's Jared Golden, had backed the legislation but rarely campaigned on it. aoc plays fast and loose with facts all the time. we went back two years 'cause she were honest 'bout what she were doing back then. HA! Good Fun!

... ... prove it isn't possible? and folks wonder how the qanon silliness takes hold. as to aoc, she is almost as much o' a fact checking nightmare as is trump. Ocasio-Cortez: People More Concerned About Me Being "Factually Correct" Than "Morally Right" "If people want to really blow up one figure here or one word there, I would argue that they’re missing the forest for the trees. I think that there’s a lot of people more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right." yeah... no. HA! Good Fun!

particular sneaky how they did in pennsylvania by allowing trump to improve his margin in philadelphia and pittsburgh but then actual went to red counties and reversed the trend. sure, trump still won almost all o' those red counties, but biden won pennsylvania by improving his losing margin in red counties. genius. if you cannot see how ridiculous you are being, am not sure what to say. legal standards does not embrace powerball odds. thank goodness. sure as hell not gonna delegitimize or holdup transfer o' power following democratic election 'cause o' such not quite impossible odds. HA! Good Fun!

prove it isn't impossible? ... you are not suggesting such is the credible basis for challenging an election, are you? it sure isn't the basis for lawsuits. @HoonDing most o' the 300 were eventually tracked, but ~150k were delivered late... "In several swing states, late ballots will still be counted as long as they were postmarked by Election Day and received by Friday. They include Nevada, where 4,518 ballots arrived on Wednesday and 635 arrived Thursday, as well as North Carolina (2,958 on Wednesday and 835 on Thursday) and Pennsylvania (3,439 Wednesday and 1,459 Thursday). But states such as Arizona (864 Wednesday and 559 Thursday) and Georgia (853 Wednesday and 610 Thursday) don’t accept any ballots after Election Day." pennsylvania ballots received late is actual current being sequestered and may eventual be counted. +5k votes. 'cause o' the Supreme Court decision, any ballot received after election day is sequestered. is unlikely to affect the Presidential race, but could be vital for down ballot stuff. HA! Good Fun!

trump is attempting to delegitimize votes in multiple states, which would force state legislatures and perhaps even Congress to decide who is the next President. each state won for biden makes it more difficult for trump to undermine the system. is gonna be new trump lawsuits filed daily from now until december 8, or perhaps even later. ... there is a case in georgia, which would affect 53 ballots. there is a case in pennsylvania, which would affect 600 ballots. there is a case in az which would affect election day voting in maricopa. there is a new case in michigan which would affect all o' wayne county or more than 800k votes. most trump campaign cases have been dismissed and the remaining options do not appear to be particular strong. however, one judge in say arizona or michigan could conceivably create enough uncertainty and delay so as to provide republican legislatures in those states an excuse to step in and invalidate the election. so what happens if he convinces judges in arizona, michigan and pennsylvania to delay just long enough... have people been watching trump these past four years? "he can't do that." "it's unconstitutional." "that would be illegal and no republican would support him if he went that far." am gonna once again remind @Guard Dog how he accused various news outlets o' fear mongering when they warned o' the possibility trump might contest the election. well? if you think biden winning +270 ec votes by such margins as to make recounts a non-issue is enough to settle the issue, you have not been paying attention for the past four years. messala is beaten, but he is gone use every last option, legal and otherwise, to remain President... and when it becomes obvious the Presidency is out of reach, he is gonna set fire to everything.

pfizer is producing globally, not just for the US. recollection is there is two US manufacturing locations and one in belgium. am honest not certain what is the % breakdown on manufacturing. HA! Good Fun!

very good news. safety data should be available at the end of the month. best case scenario is ~25 million individuals could receive the vaccine by the end of the year. @Guard Dog may be particularly pleased to hear that the pharmaceutical company which distanced itself from the fed and refused to take government money for research and development is the company with the most dramatic news o' initial success... which didn't stop the current administration for taking credit for the news. HA! Good Fun! ps perhaps ironic, but the spike in US cases actual sped up the timeline as requisite benchmarks depended on community spread infections reaching 94 cases out of X.