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worse. he is saying they do not have the right to avoid being an unwilling publisher of of speech which the publisher knows or believes with a high degree o' uncertainty to be untrue or knowing false. and keep in mind, being a publisher does not insulate an individual from defamation. the standard for public issues and individuals is extreme high, but if you genuine know a lie is being uttered, you expose self to legal liability if you do not stop publishing the lie. if were a newspaper, am doubtful skarp_one would be confused. can't force the newspaper man to use his ink and paper and delivery services to publish a lie they do not believe. obvious, no? radio and tv creates a mental hurdles some folks cannot overcome. there is always gonna be conflicting personal liberty rights when there is a disagreement between citizens. is good that the US government is prohibited from deciding who has the superior speech save for extreme limited circumstances. HA! Good Fun!

reversed timing. the free speech zones were set up in advance o' the protesters arriving. "got very physical" is kinda an odd description o' what happened and in any event, the free-speech areas were dismantled very quickly w/o even the need for a legal battle. time, place, manner restrictions on free speech were addressed by the Court in 1972 (police department of chicago v. mosley.) kinda intuitive that picketers outside o' a hospital may be restricted to certain times and areas. unfortunately, a few government agencies and actors has tried to use tpm limits to censor speech and such efforts almost universal fail. the bureau o' land management's free speech zones limiting protest to a small area o' a 1200 sq. mile area were patent ridiculous. the aclu were drooling at the chance to deliver a first amendment beatdown on the federal government for their temerity, but as already stated, the free speech zones were quick dismantled and the violence gd suggests were omnipresent was anything but. HA! Good Fun!

alaska, florida and 26 other states resolve state elections involving multiple counties voting for same office by lot... we kid you not. state-by-state. our recollection is that new jersey is the only state with no provision for ties. HA! Good Fun! ps keep in mind the tie scenario counts as a state thing 'cause the state is actual choosing electoral college delegates who then vote for the President. pps am honest not recollecting what is the method georgia utilizes, but arizona uses lots. we mention 'cause those two states appear most likely to face a tie situation even if the odds is astronomical unlikely.

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no Constitutional republic has been around longer than the USA. anywho, for those who is tense 'bout the election and the almost inevitable post election fallout to follow... HA! Good Fun!

exactly. we don't care if gd has daddy issues or suffered harsh potty training. who is the real gd and what made him concerns us not at all when we make observations 'bout how predictable is gd on certain subjects. a lawyer looks for patterns. ignore claimed motivations and look for patterns in laws as written. look for patterns in how those laws is applied. look for actual application o' law through individual action. look for patterns in arguments reveal flaws or strengths. seeing gd patterns doesn't require a lawyer. is none o' our business what were gd's relationship with his mother, and such details, while no doubt important in illuminating who is gd don't matter from our pov. is not meant to be an insult, but am just not interested in psychoanalyzing gd. HA! Good Fun!

am hardly defending gd on this but am trying to recall crowds chanting, "we love you," for a President in our lifetime. individuals? sure. am remembering general cheering for reagan when he were in the hospital after being shot... were a less than a minute where ron and nancy appear from the hospital window and the crowds yell, but am not genuine able to recall a chant of "we love you," even from that crowd. but again, the "we love you, " bit is different. is not same or even similar to "yes we can." much o' the success o' trump is that he continued and magnified what obama did. obama became his party, changing the goals and standards o' traditional democrats and am thinking such were not a good trend. bad for one man to define the party. trump did what obama did... x10. HA! Good Fun!

well yeah, cohen being a joke candidate does matter, but you decide is unimportant? is more than a few libertarians who take their party affiliation serious and have been trying for decades to convince republican and democrat friends to take the libertarian party serious. such attempts is more difficult when cohen is vp candidate. arrogant to claim cohen choice is irrelevant. if soundness o' the libertarian strategy is failed, or self-defeating, am thinking is kinda a noteworthy concern. is a whole lotta libertarians potential throwing away money and effort which would be better spent elsewhere? kinda a foundational concern no? as such, your declaration o' irrelevance seems kinda arrogant. similar, "they decided," is hardly a compelling response to an accusation o' wasted money and gd wouldn't accept such if were local government or perhaps his tax advisor or accountant who wasted money. arrogant to claim a good libertarian should just fall in line 'cause they decided. hell, jo jorgensen were against having cohen as her running mate. am admitted losing track at this point. is libertarians, jorgensen, gd or Gromnir who is arrogant regarding the "they decided," silliness which gd would not be supporting if it were "the government," who decided? any disagreement with gd can be described as arrogant. thank goodness am unmoved by such. HA! Good Fun!

off-putting for gd 'cause obama were "the government." gotta embrace the false equivalency o' gd where all candidates representing the government is corrupt and vile and is only a matter o' degree which separates best from the worst. "yes we can," and "we love you," is necessarily equivalent 'cause in both situations, the government is using emotion to create support for misdeeds current and future... fast-forward to ~1:20 https://www.c-span.org/video/?476584-1/president-trump-motorcade-walter-reed "i will die for that man." any evidence o' popular and emotional support for a candidate or politician is gonna cheese off gd. none o' them deserve it. all the same, or same enough. you are not gonna hear Gromnir yelling, "i will die for that man," regarding any politician. public servants. the President and other politicians in this country work for us and not the other way around. what sacrifices will the President make on our behalf? we will sacrifice for the Constitution and free speech and America, but not for a politician. that said, bothered by "yes we can" requires the gd false equivalency and blanket condemnation o' "the government" we cannot manage to evoke. HA! Good Fun!

wow. people say a beard can drastic change appearance, but we hardly recognize ms. jorgensen. libertarian vp candidate is spike cohen am wondering if people voting for jorgensen/cohen is in on the joke? HA! Good Fun!

is idiotic on multiple levels. show where Gromnir has suggested those guilty o' murderous decapitation should be allowed to immigrate to the US? am thinking if you can check the box for murder decapitations, it should count as a mark against you when seeking to immigrate to the US. would we be having this discussion if trump had promised a decapitations ban? ~1.8 billion muslims worldwide not guilty o' the decapitations in france. also, we request skarp point to islamic fundamentalist groups in the past month who has been arrested for planning the kidnap and murder of at least one US state governor? is kinda easy to find a specific crime or act and then tailor the question so it precludes the group you wish excluded. not much imagination. meaningless. as @Gorth post highlights, is not difficult to find white supremacist violence occurring in the US... didn't even need cherry pick from a different continent. additional example and from skarp_one's source: A white supremacist gang has been charged with kidnapping and forcibly removing a tattoo of a former member before killing him nevertheless, only counts and has skarp wetting the bed if a limb had been removed with the tattoo before the murder? okie dokie. that said, if we found the requested white supremacist decapitations, do you think for a second skarp_one would agree that a christian ban is legit under such circumstances? please. all o' which ignores the point-- even if we did find decapitations by white supremacists in the past week, a resulting ban on all christians attempting to immigrate to the US would be wrong both legal and moral. do we blame blame all christians for the excesses o' a handful? back in 2015, some l00n shot up a planned parenthood clinic in colorado. shooter claimed he were a "warrior for the babies" or somesuch. killed multiple people. while no doubt a few folks here and elsewhere saw the event as proof o' the evil o' religion and/or christianity, the idea we should deny rights and opportunities to all christians based on the violence perpetrated by a few anti-abortion supporters woulda' been unjust. would be un american. "congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." is the US. in this country we claim to offer refuge to those fleeing religious persecution. to discriminate 'gainst those friendless and homeless refugees because o' their religion should be unthinkable, but somehow such vile invective became the basis o' a successful Presidential campaign. should be a national embarrassment. more important: do the trump voters o' conscience who chose his orangeness for President after he promised a muslim ban genuine want oro and skarp_one defending their choice? these are the voices you want defending your position? okie dokie HA! Good Fun!

Police use pepper-spray on protesters — including children — marching to Alamance polls Democrats cancel Central Texas events after Trump supporters surround, follow Biden bus on I-35 election is still days away and is getting fugly fast.

at the end o' the movie, captain ramius reminisces that there is a river near vilnius which is much like the one where the red october is being hidden... taught to fish by his grandfather on that river. movie ruined. is no river anywhere near vilnius which could accommodate an alpha class sub much less an oversized typhoon. HA! Good Fun!

as a grumpy and old person, we cannot help but believe that the fancy-schmancy intraweb thing all the kids talk 'bout these days may have something to do with the diminished capacity to get beyond the remember and understand portions o' bloom's taxonomy. every question may be answered with a quick google search, and not just facts neither. be directed by a lit teacher to discuss themes, symbolism and modern day relevance o' (insert a shakespeare play here) and one need only learn how to refine the appropriate search engine query. the internet is a fabulous and indispensable tool, but we cannot help but feel as if ez access to answers makes it more difficult to teach kids how to learn. and now let's talk about power steering. back in Gromnir's day... HA! Good Fun!

am understanding the world is a scary place. a clutch-your-pearls reaction for some more timid individuals is to be expected. a story 'bout a bad muslim in france is gonna induce in some a fit o' shivering-- poor dears. is something like 5.5 muslims in france and ~1.8 billion worldwide.... so 'bout 1.8 billion muslims complete innocent o' the crime in france. the bad muslim in france story has us positive terrified. send an individual scurrying under his bed for cover everytime he hears a story o' violence has gotta be a terrifying existence considering all the violence in the world. "‘We Are Being Eaten From Within.’ Why America Is Losing the Battle Against White Nationalist Terrorism" "Since 9/11, white supremacists and other far-right extremists have been responsible for almost three times as many attacks on U.S. soil as Islamic terrorists, the government reported. From 2009 through 2018, the far right has been responsible for 73% of domestic extremist-related fatalities" "FBI Director Christopher Wray told Congress in July that a majority of the bureau’s domestic-terrorism investigations since October were linked to white supremacy." if there is ideology based associations in the US most worthy o' fear, 'ccording to US intelligence for past multiple decades, it is the white supremacists and right-wing groups. if one were to try and lockdown fortress america and protect it from the evils lurking just beyond our borders, the sensible reaction would be to first exclude those most likely to do harm. am not personal advocating such a bedwetter approach to national safety, but even if one does embrace such, it would have us looking at the common characteristics o' the greatest threat. so, what is the salient characteristics o' the members o' white supremacist and far/alt-right groups? white male working class (nicer way o' saying uneducated, don't you think?) christian hmmm. that group o' qualities, given proximity to the Presidential election 'bout to take place, sounds familiar, but will leave that for a later date. regardless, if you wanna protect americans from scary people who is likely to commit abominable acts o' violence in the name o' ideology, the obvious folks to exclude (again, a stoopid reaction, but might as well at least consider the possibilities) is the persons most likely to become members o' the most dangerous groups. if any, should ban the following: white, male, working class, christian. 'course there is an obvious hurdle to this rational (but stoopid and fear based) plan... "congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances." furthermore, the civil war amendments precludes the US from discriminating on the basis o' national origin and race n' such as well as religion, 'cause 'y'know we fought an extreme bloody war with ourselves already over such issues there has never been a equal rights amendment for women, which is kinda curious but it is the law. gender actual gets something referred to as intermediate scrutiny, which as you might guess is less than the strict scrutiny applicable to race, religion and national origin and a few other categories. craig v. boren, a case on which rbg were an attorney for the plaintiffs, established gender as deserving intermediate scrutiny, a compromise result which satisfied nobody. so a white, male, working class, christian ban is just plain illegal and complete unsupportable, but a male and working class ban could probably be managed. doesn't make for much o' campaign slogan though and am suspecting it don't resonate in the US rust belt. just a guess. oh, and muslim ban is obvious illegal and unconstitutional, so... 'course focus on legal all too often ignores questions o' moral and right. many o' the founding fathers and framers o' the Constitution were descendents o' the those early settlers to the "new world," and the memory o' the persecution o' minority christian faiths in europe were not forgotten or ignored by these men. the US may have been founded by white men who were, for the most part, terrible bigots, but they did understand the value o' religious freedom and they clear sympathized with those attempting to escape religious persecution-- is the why behind the protection in the First Amendment. those men and women embracing unpopular christian teachings in europe found a chance to worship open and free in the US. the US has had a troubled history with religious freedom. wounded knee were a massacre o' indians, mostly old men and women, who were gathered for the ghost dance, a religious observance. similarly, antisemitism has been common and every few decades there is a terrible resurgence o' bigotry directed at jews in this country. Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" is aspirational, but the poem immortalized on the statue o' liberty were written by emma lazarus who were an advocate for jewish immigrants being driven out of europe in the late 1800s. those immigrants, fleeing religious persecution, were also targeted with claims o' lawlessness and immorality. the US, from its founding, has in its horribly inconsistent way been a refuge for those fleeing religious persecution. moderate muslims in 2020, driven out o' their homes by more fundamentalist adherents o' the faith is having many parallels with the pilgrims in the 1600s who were escaping religious persecution in europe. is having parallels to the catholics and jews who would subsequent seek refuge in the US. is much 'bout the US which is worthy o' criticism, but the aspirational embrace o' all religions and faiths is just and moral and right. we fail. we stumble. we write unjust laws and support immoral candidates for election. eventual we shake off the the fear of small and petty men unworthy o' public service and rededicate ourselves to something far from universal religious liberty, but we keep striving to close the gap 'tween reality and those aspirations codified in the first amendment and on the statue o' liberty and elsewhere. so, muslim ban? you would advocate a willful ignorance o' the violation o' the moral and legal principles 'pon which the US is founded 'cause o' fear o' foreigners, particular as the monsters o' the domestic variety is more plentiful and o' a much more serious and immediate threat. that is the argument? *snort* HA! 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silver only sorta/kinda follows such trends. again, in spite of economic turmoil this year, silver dropped precipitous. less than $12 an ounce? reason we were surprised we had bought silver is 'cause we hadn't bothered to look at silver. who would expect with economic turmoil and rising covid deaths silver would tank to that degree? sure, we had the order in, but sub $12 were only a bit more likely than an alien invasion scenario. ordinary and reasonable people tend to lump all the precious metals together... is why you see all those silly precious metal commercials on tv when there is some kinda economic downturn or instability. everybody knows how gold and silver increase in value and is reliable when there is turmoil. is not a wrong assumption, but silver doesn't behave same as gold. admitted, something similar happened with silver back in 2008ish. by 3rd quarter, we were already deep into recession, and then silver dropped to less than $10. would eventually increase to more than $45 in 2012(?). am retired. we don't need the silver drama. HA! Good Fun!

a week ago we used a drop box to vote. today we final got notice the ballot had been received. still feels like a win. HA! Good Fun!

culinary confession: when we make pork carnitas, 90% of the time we use our instapot. takes literal three days to do the duck carnitas if we go confit. takes one hour (less) to do pork carnitas. our pork carnitas usual includes beer, orange juice, lime juice, ancho chiles, mexican oregano, cumin, garlic, salt, onions and sometimes we throw in a cinnamon stick and a bit o' ground cloves for a bit o' extra bite... don't have a specific recipe. quick. easy. delicious. we prefer duck carnitas, but instapot makes diabolical simple. HA! Good Fun!

didn't read this earlier. is wrong. you are using a personal liberal v. conservative spectrum which don't match traditional definitions if you put sotomayor 4th amendment opinions on the conservative end o' the liberal v. conservative spectrum. cops win = conservative. is not particular deep or profound, but that is how law enforcement cases ordinarily gets placed on the liberal v. conservative spectrum. look at current law enforcement actions in places such as portland and chicago and ask if is liberals or conservatives supporting? am knowing you don't see as we describe, but am suspecting you got some prejudices which kinda fog your vision on this. scalia's 4th amendment decisions were noteworthy precise 'cause they did not fall w/i the expectations o' conservatives. criminals using 4th amendment to avoid justice? is not something conservatives support. and keep in mind with 4th amendment cases we are talking 'bout folks who would be criminalized but for the Constitution, which is an almost uniquely american legal concept. you are switching libertarian for liberal, which is just one reason why liberal v. conservative ain't fungible with Court philosophies. perhaps we may offer an easier example, even if is fifth amendment. miranda were considered a liberal win. J. earl warren wrote the 5-4 decision in miranda and since that time more conservative Courts and Justices have chipped away at the ruling. warren were appointed by a republican President, but he went rogue and is considered one o' the most vocal liberal voices on a particular liberal Court. miranda is considered a liberal win. sotomayor is not quite as liberal as were warren. the real lesson here is that it is not good to use liberal v. conservative to describe judicial philosophies and is a particular poor benchmark from which to gauge predictability. am not sure we agree with how you distinguish textualism. leave for another time. however we will observe how both Congress' crafting laws and the executive's writing rules is purposeful ambiguous-- is an expectation and reliance on interpretation by the Courts to fill in gaps to make legislation and executive action workable. is the root problem which if addressed would eliminate much o' the debate 'bout legitimacy o' purposivism, textualism or whatever other theory o' interpretation employed by judges and Justices. apologies for double, but complete unrelated to our immediate previous post. HA! Good Fun!

y'know, am suspecting this were an auto spellcheck error, but it kinda works. HA! Good Fun!

every pandemic in recent history has had a resurgence 6-8 months following the first. europe suffered their covid-19 exposure a couple months after china in the spring. the US got hit ~one month after europe. china was facing a serious second wave in june-july but they promptly reimposed harsh social distancing measures in multiple areas. any shock europe is being hit hard today? this resurgence were complete and utter predictable. is one reason why the epidemiologists were begging people to get numbers down as much as possible in the summer 'cause the predictable resurgence would be a multiplication o' existing cases. curiously, the fox news and breitbart folks somehow look at the current situation as evidence that wearing masks and social distancing is, at best, ineffectual. science challenged yahoos. Fox News Hosts Downplay Coronavirus, but Network Brass Take It Very Seriously, Memo Shows so maybe less science challenged and more a matter o' a callous and mercenary hypocrisy. HA! Good Fun!

the lack of punctuation makes it possible to read the quoted in ways most amusing. hoon likes to be funny, but am suspecting too many actual agree with the sentiment. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/?cid=rrpromo does trump have a chance? sure he does. am not sure people understand how odds work? fivethirtyeight had trump with a better than 28% chance o' winning in 2016. trump would love to have same numbers this year, but he still does have a chance. nevertheless, if your political future (and more important the increasing high chance o' facing criminal charges) hinges on the election, am suggesting "in the bag" has a different meaning for trump. HA! Good Fun!

you clearly are not watching fox news or listening to far right radio. almost forgot, and speaking of hypocrites: muslim ban HA! Good Fun!

made duck carnitas. went the multi-day confit approach for the duck. had real mexican coke on hand which we use in the braise and drank as a beverage with the meal. am not sure if the cane sugar makes a difference, but we had a theme, so... ate so much. can't move. feeling sleepy and incredibly satisfied. HA! Good Fun!

would be reassuring if the only problem with the kavanaugh opinion were sloppiness. Brett Kavanaugh Just Endorsed A Radical Legal Theory That Could Cause Election Chaos am knowing we have said before that the Constitution does not actual recognize a citizen's right to vote for President. am gonna assume such an observation do not carry the weight it should. trump, barr and other political opportunists is a serious threat to the legitimacy o' the election.