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Just to play devil's advocate here, religious proponents don't usually claim that their postulates make sense. If they did, they would leave the door open for logic based attacks that would tear their doctrines to pieces. Instead, they rely on Faith, Divine Virtue, or any other of their rhetorical gimmicks. It doesn't have to make sense, you have either been granted the divine boon that is Faith, or you haven't. So claiming that "it doesn't make sense" isn't enough. Alas, nothing is.

Of course I'm arguing for argument's sake. I'm bored as hell. That doesn't imply that my points weren't valid, though. I haven't made any contradictions as you seem to be attempting to infer. And while his underlying point may stand, the argument he made is still invalid; no matter how hard you try to fix it, it's still broken. So don't put words in other people's mouths. No. My opinion played no part in the sentence at all. The original point was that his opinion simply wasn't shared by everyone else as he seemed to think, a fact that stemmed from the premise that he is not the whole forum. No matter how many inexisting fallacies you try to call or how twisted your discourse may be, you are not going to drive me away through confusion. You are mixing things here. I don't have friends in the forum, which has nothing to do with my popularity here. And I do know that at least one person doesn't consider me abrasive, because there is a post in this very thread that says so. Search for it yourself, I have enough work already going through the twisted rhetoric you consider "arguing". And it's 100% true I have no lovers in the boards. Your point? You said that, not me. Those are just random numbers to me. It's called choosing your words carefully. Keep trying and some day you might learn to do it too. But so far, I am right, and you are holding to assumptions and interptetations of my posts, while I just have to point to the literal meaning. Heh. Not much subtlety there, pal. "I'm not saying that's you, of course, but I'm going to go to great lengths to imply exactly that". Nah, not good enough. Well, you are progressing from simply twisted logic to surreptitious personal attacks. Running out of patience so soon? I see. So if the joke wasn't aimed at me (since you are implying I'm the butt of the joke), it was aimed to somebody else. Let's see, that can only be you or the other readers. If it was aimed to make you laugh, well, people who make jokes for themselves are somewhat sad. And if the point was to be funny in the eyes of the other posters, you have effectively assumed the "attention-whore" stereotype that every troll strives to accomplish. I don't know what's worse.

Gold.

Well, it's a pretty good pic of "Darth Ninolous" indeed.

Care to elaborate?

It's a mess indeed. But the funny bit is that you can't really prove them wrong. Sure, they made up some random stuff about the nature of existence, but go ahead and try to prove them wrong using that very pragmatism with which you see everything else through.

Cool. I was rather bored. On the contrary. He made a baseless assertion which could only be proved if he was indeed the whole forum. Something obviously impossible. Thus, his original statement was flawed at the base. You already dealt with this on the last quote. Since it was part of the same sentence, it was meant to deal with the same point. Your attempt to strenghthen your post by duplicating points has failed. I only pointed to the fact that his opinions aren't universal, as opposed to young infants who actually believe their reality is the only possible reality. This was in consonance with Nur's assuming his opinion was automatically shared by the rest of the forum, which is obviously false. And I dare you to point a single post of mine in which I declared myself "leet". You mistake observation of the obvious with criticism. This statement could be applied in the same measure if I said "you are a poster", and you answered "Indeed I am". You really need to do better. I never stated he needed the 'net to search for friends. But since he pointed to the fact that I don't have any friends here, it's only logical to assume that he thinks that he (or someone else) does. If he didn't, the criticism wouldn't really be applicable, thus making the whole point moot. That is a pretty good example itself of a reductio-ad-absurdum fallacy as well. And not a very funny one at that, if that was your intention.

Only he didn't say he's an atheist. He probably isn't judging from the content of his post. And hey, who knows. Perhaps in three or four thousand years, they will believe WWII to be a myth, too. Oversimplification rules, eh Nur?

And for the next Pope...

Just to clear up a few fundamental concepts. You are not the whole forum, thus your opinion on what the whole membership thinks of me isn't law. This works in a similar way as an young infant assuming he's the centre of the universe. Draw your own conclusions. I know I don't have a single friend here. Neither do you for that matter. The difference between you and me, my socially challenged friend, is that I fully acknowledge this fact, while you delude yourself. I find it rather sad that you chose the 'net as a means to find friends, and perhaps it's an indication that in fact, the lone loser here isn't me.

Pragmatism at its finest.

A rather short-sighted comment, might I add. In fact, His Sanctity has done a lot of great things, such as having a pivotal role in the catastrophic disintegration of the USSR, and magnifying the great impact AIDS is having in Africa due to the Vatican's ban of the condom. Rest In Pieces.

Not for the likes of you, that's for sure.

Because you made it about me. Again, the other option is to simply ignore my posts. Why do you care so much about what I do? Do you find me so terribly fascinating? The thread has gone off-topic horribly, and you can't honestly say I'm the only one to blame. It's not the flamewar I'm talking about now, it's your attempt to prove that my posting style is wrong. Well, if you wish to keep trying, be my guest. But it's a lost battle, I warn you. What's this? Are you softening up on me? Sorry Nur, but my gentle side is reserved for 'em pretty lasses only. That's why my intention never was to win.

But it's the truth. I only attack when provoked. And I'm nobody important so you don't need to read all of my posts. It's not weak, it's the truth and you can't really prove otherwise. I'm not changing my posting style just because you find it "rude", because being blunt isn't against the forum rules. When the rules change, my posting will change. Oh and those are some fine examples of my flaming of the past 48 hours. These have been some flame-intense 48 hours, though. I already admitted I am always ready for a flame war so I don't know what exactly are you trying to prove. I warn you not to take things out of context to make a point, though, or I'll be forced to report you, since misquoting is against the forum rules. Oh and when did this thread became about me? And your grasp of reality is so slim I almost feel pity for you, but hey, nobody's perfect. Really, I could explain myself, my reasons for calling him and you a n00b, my reasons for choosing this username, and my reasons for dismissing him, but then I think "why the hell should I waste my time explaining myself to some stranger in the other side of the world?" Surely you can see the pointlessness of such an effort. So let's leave it at that. And please stop baiting me unless what you want is yet another flame war, in which case I will be happy to oblige.

So, the technical support question here was...?

What!? :ph34r:

Where did I say that the value of his posts (let alone his quality as human being) is in any way related to his post count? You seem to be a bit confused. In fact I don't like postcounts at all. I called him a n00b because he is one, just like I was once. But before having a go at other posters I read around to see how things worked around here. Something that both you and he have obviously not done. Now be a good n00b and run along. I sure hope that means you are finally going to shut your trap. I know my posting style is blunt and even aggressive at times, but rarely insulting unless I have been insulted before. Make no mistake, I never pass up a flame war, but I don't start them. Why some people will react with insults to my posting and some won't? I don't really know and I sure as hell don't care. I always answer the same to this kind of argument: there is the ignore function in case you don't like the content or tone of my posts. Nobody forces you to read them, and nobody forces you to reply with a flame. If you do, then don't complain if I flame back.

Hey what can I say? People love me. Oh and those were flame wars that I did not start. Important detail there.

It's a figure of speech, Nur. I know what he's talking about. Not that I expect you to understand anything any more complex than sesame street-style speech.

Yeah, well. Let me remind you it was you who started it. WTF are you talking about, n00b?

No, it only proves that the spongy mass you have for a brain is too inert to comprehend even basic sentences. I could go on insulting you, but I'm afraid my time is being wasted since you appear to have lost the ability to understand and reply in a coherent manner. Or perhaps you never had that ability to begin with and you have been having your dog write your posts for you, which would indeed explain quite a few things.

Sounds like fun.

Your every post marks the continuing dwindle of your intellectual abilities. It took you about an hour to post a single sentence? How long do your school essays take then? At your present rate I calculate you will be done with elementary school at 60. Not bad for someone boasting the brainpower of a sandworm. Oh and this thread was perfectly on topic until you made it part of your personnal vendetta against me. Go do something useful for humanity like getting your genitals caught in a meatgrinder or something, but stop spamming.

Words of uncanny wisdom. Nur Ab Sal making a fool of himself was brought to you by the TotJ Bible project.