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It's not. I don't even know what is that. You can play the arcade modes of the 3 first games, though. And I think it also includes some ancient space shoot-'em-up from Namco that you can unlock if you do... stuff.

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As far as I know, the console version is 5.1.

US Intelligence is right up there with the UN in my ignore list. "

Whatever. You just keep nitpicking and dodging the issue when your arguments are dismantled. And the mods already deleted your post, so I think it's time you had a nice cup of STFU. )

The difference is that you admitted that by siding with a terrorist you are due what the terrorist sought to begin with. That is effectively advocating terrorism.

I agree with this 100%. Except the murder bit, lest I'm accused of contradicting myself. " No, for implying that terrorism is the way to go. And your post has been deleted already, so yes, I'm going for it.

If you side with a murderer, you'll get what's due to you. Oh, yes. Hamas is really beneficial to have around. It's not like they prompt the Israeli to retaliate in the form of bulldozing buildings or launching missiles. Yeah, everyone knows they'd do it anyway. Killing Palestinians is the Israeli national sport, you know. But none of that matters, because once they have a state of their own, somebody will wave their magic wand, and then *poof*, those terrorists that only know hatred and whose way of life is causing grief to others will all instantly become productive members of society. Yes, of course. May I recommend you up your medication? They'll have a cruise missile heading their way in no time, mark my words. Bingo. Yeah, well. I'm not going to question his ability to keep his head on his shoulders in that snake pit, or his skill to appear as a great man to both the west and his own people. But his value as a manager... ahem.

Basically I'd say it's a balanced, tweaked version of Tekken 4. Also, it features almost every character ever to appear in a Tekken game (barring Dr. Boskonovich and whatnot) plus a few new ones. They have removed wall tech-roll too. " The AI is at the same time very stupid, and very annoying since it has blatant move read, and very nasty pre-programmed juggles. But it's not the AI that's fun to play against, is it? The "Devil Within" minigame is rather cringe-worthy, and I wouldn't even mention it if it wasn't for the fact that you need to play it if you want to get money for character customization. You can also play the Arcade mode but the amount of money earned by that in comparison is ridiculous. Unfortunately you don't get money for playing the VS battles. I miss a really fun minigame like T3's "Tekken Ball". All in all, it's better than T4. If you like Tekken, you will like T5.

It doesn't matter if one is not a terrorist himself. If one harbors, supports, or simply doesn't act against them, they are as guilty of their acts as the terrorists themselves. That is the problem with the Palestinians. Well, I'm not sure I'd like another Gorbachov taking care of this situation. You know, messing everything up with unrealistic plans, and then leaving the clean up of his mess to others in the next decades is not quite what I would call "a recipe for success". Also, isn't it easier to make a single post with multiple quotes and rebuttals?

You are welcome not to participate.

Huh? How is your proposal of repeating a course of action that has proven to be less than optimal not the point? Really, it's not as simple as going there and planting a flag, you know.

Is that an example to follow? How many traditional tribal conflicts have evolved into full-blown wars because of hasty and ill-planified de-colonisation?

Sure. But now it's up to the Palestinians to tidy up the house. They brewed it, they are going to drink it. Israel has already made their move.

Moderators are supposed to lead by example. His comment seemed to hint that his view on whether or not I had contradicted myself was final, and refused to continue the argument. That's what I was aiming at. But in your example, the house has an inherently superior value to that of the dog. That is a straw man, as in WWII, the Japanese didn't just intend to "annoy" the US. The US were fighting to prevent the Japanese from repeating their stunt at Pearl Harbor as soon as they got another chance. Human lives, not houses, not pets. Right. Which means you just aren't going to acknowledge any further arguments, regardless of their validity. My point exactly. And yes, I'm off-topic. But I didn't start it.

Shh... It's SW. Logic doesn't apply, remember?

That's more like it. Sure, but he's not a terrorist, he's not the one that we're talking about. Oh, right. So now they have gone rogue, haven't they? And when will it be a good time for them to knock it off? If we are to believe what they say, they won't stop until every jew is kicked out of the place. Whatever.

If the only way to prevent my neighbor from attacking me again after he has attacked me is to bulldoze his house, then it is perfectly valid as self-defense, provided that my life is at risk. It's exactly the way it goes when you are trying to justify your use of lethal force against an aggressor in front of a court of law. I don't care if you accept it or not. Fact is, your feeble grasp of laws is beginning to leave you in a difficult situation. "Na na na, I don't care what you say, I win, I'm not listening." Seriously, I hope your attitude towards moderation issues is a bit more open to arguments that differ with your viewpoint, or we are in some serious sh*t.

How about making a declaration? A truce? Handing over their weapons? Are you really that obtuse?

No, no. That's not how diplomacy and negotiations work. The Israeli have already abandoned their settlements. That's a gesture of good will. Now it's up to the terrorists to make a similar gesture. I don't see it happening. Huh? What? Where is it? I don't see anything. Are you trying to make me trust the good intentions of terrorists? Are you sick or just perverted?

Again, you fail to acknowledge my point. I'm beginning to think this is personal. You are not convicted of murder if you kill in self-defense. Self-defense is what the US did in Japan. Thus, it was not murder, regardless of what a dictionary says. If you want to get technical, get a law dictionary, and look it up there. Colloquial definitions are not good enough.

There has been no official declaration of war from the NPA, for starters. The militant groups aren't "officially" sanctioned by said authority, either. So yeah. Sorry buddy, but "it doesn't count", because it's not war. Dissatisfaction is not equal to armed militancy. And again, I haven't denied that there were underground movements. I have denied they had any significant impact, which they didn't. Among other things because terrorism feeds on publicity, and one of the soviet tenets was to give dissidents and their actions none. Yes, that's basically it. Yes, it's about damned time. But what has been Hamas and the rest of the terrorists' answer? Have they made any good will gestures? No, they haven't and they never will. For they are fundamentalists and the only thing they will settle for is the complete destruction of the Israeli state. That's why it's not possible to negotiate with those people. When you can provide adequate proof that they have a real intention to give peace a chance, then I will believe it. Then I will be the first supporter of negotiations. Until then, you're just playing games. End of story.

I guess that depends on what you understand by "murder". Note that I used the word "murder" and not just "kill", for a reason. Murder is not when you kill in self-defense, and that's what it ultimately came down to in Japan. So no, I'm not contradicting myself, no matter how you put it.

No. In war, the rules are different. And again, it was a war they started. If the US hadn't demolished Japan, they would just have rearmed, and charged forward again. Stop trying to milk your Hiroshima example, it's getting old already, and it should be obvious by now that you aren't going to accomplish anything. Huh? And here I was thinking that Glasnost, Perestroika, and the rest of the reforms undertaken by Gorbachev were due to his wish to revive the soviet people's interest and faith in the Party, and to give an impulse to the economy in an attempt to keep up with the US. Wait, that's the most widely accepted theory. I guess the world is wrong then, and you are right. Your particular preference for personal vengeance is of no concern to me. It's still illegal. If you wish to live outside the law, and outside any rules that make convivence possible, that's your choice. As somebody said before, vengeance is the moral equivalent of drinking sea water. Sorry, but no. I don't accept your reasons for murdering anyone. It's still wrong. But even if I accepted those particular reasons, they still have nothing to do with the topic at hand. But perhaps you are not as interested in debating as you are in "winning", even if that means making arguments so circular that they aren't related at all. Well, I hope you "win". I for one will keep just debating.