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Uh, so? That's a macroeconomic indicator. It says nothing about living standards. No. We aren't accepting invented or imaginary statistics as evidence, m'kay? Oh, wait. Those that have greater growth rates than the US aren't "developed", right? How shrewd.

Yes, alan. Why do you hate Freedom?

Ugh. Well, at least you don't have to go through the whole "DATA CORRUPTED!" sequence if you want to change the colour of your beard. Speaking of which, the game is seriously lacking in that department! Load times were good. I hope that's the case with the full game.

I thought they already had all the conventional bunker busters they needed. And also some bunker buster nukes. Pen

A Pyrrhic victory is still technically a victory, eh?

You in a hurry to go somewhere?

Actually, they were exactly like that.

Counterproductive, indeed. It may even hurt their weapons deals! You gamey IC whore, you! OT: it's perfectly possible to annex Yugoslavia in 1940 after finishing the Frenchies if you leave Scandinavia alone. edit: changed link

The Soviet Union most definitely invaded Finland after the war. The Soviets invaded in November, but war started August 30th 1939. Ignorant joke indeed. He actually edited his post to "correct" that! I feel my IQ has definitely decreased after this discussion. I'm calling it quits.

I guess Wiki is just too difficult to use for some people. Here, WoD. Finally a link that supports your theories! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_count...PPP)_per_capita If only slightly.

Uh, okay. HDI 2008 is ADJUSTED to take that into consideration, genius. I was talking about Krezack's per capita GDP genius. GDP per capita IS part of HDI. Lol, stop embarassing yourself already!

The economic strangulation of Japan wasn't the only measure the US took against the Axis. Have you read the Hull ultimatum? So, since they couldn't embargo the Soviet Union's oil... they couldn't think of anything else to do, and they just sat back. I doubt they were really as stupid as you. Yeah, just like OECD statistics, right?

Uh, okay. HDI 2008 is ADJUSTED to take that into consideration, genius.

Yeah, those bothersome infra-humans. They aren't real citizens anyway. lololol

Yes, they did "various things", such as, nothing at all. The League of Nations (not the US) expelled the SU. And how does that compare to the economic strangulation carried out against Japan? Talk about the failure of the education system, indeed.

I'm sure they're not doing better than US, you don't know much about US. What I meant was that they'd be part of the Soviet Union, not whether they're socialist or not. Lol, another obviously well substantiated opinion, fully supported by facts. Yes. Most certainly.

Wow, Krezack actually makes sense. US imposed sanctions on Japan because of their illegal and extraordinarily brutal invasion of China. There was nothing at all wrong with those sanctions. Most of you need to study up on history before you start whining about US imperialism, which by the way saved most of your dumb asses repeatedly. Ah. So that was actually a move to protect the poor, poor Chinese, not motivated by concerns that Japan may encroach on their sphere of influence in the Pacific. A pity you didn't apply the same equal opportunity humanitarian protection before the war (Italian invasion of Ethiopia), during the war (Soviet annexation of the Baltic states and invasion of Finland), and after the war (massive deportations of German civilians carried out by the Soviets). And you demand that others take history lessons and substantiate their opinions? You are a joke. Fine. I'm not buying into any alternate explanations simply because they serve to better support my opinions, either. I believe the attack genuinely surprised the US, even if the act of attacking itself was foreseeable, and desirable even, by FDR.

I fail to see how that relates to what you quoted.

Yeah, because condescension always works as a rebuttal.

What facts are we talking about? The ABCD encirclement? The Hull ultimatum? The "Destroyers for Bases" agreement? The Lend-Lease and Atlantic convoying? The extension of the Pan-American Security Zone to Iceland? Japan was a signatory of the Tripartite Pact, as you no doubt know. Japan was also an aggressive, expansionistic power whose sphere of influence threatened US interests. Roosevelt wanted war with Japan, just like he wanted war with Germany. He couldn't just jump into the fray because of his isolationist campaigning during 1940. And, short of direct military action against Japan, he was pretty much out of options. Again, it's anyone's guess how events may have played out if Japan hadn't taken the bait, but I have very little doubt that the US would have entered the war sooner rather than later. And, of course, anything that doesn't conform to the historical version written by the victors is a "conspiracy theory". I simply cannot understand why people have no problem recognizing and condemning imperialism when it comes to Japan or the USSR, but the US is always thankfully exempt in a historical context. Oh, right. It's because of "democracy".

Not useful in the limited, theatre, strategic scales or not at all? It's hard to argue that they aren't strategically useful, what with military doctrine of the second half of the 20th century growing around the concept of deterrence. Just because they weren't used it doesn't mean they aren't useful. Fleet in being?

Not quite. Technically, you're "awsomeness".

What? Russia's influence doesn't stem from their military might nowadays. It's their oil and gas what counts. And the T-90 is a pretty good tank, btw.

Which is total bollocks. With the fall of communism, the Cold War nuclear standoff is gone. As long as Russia doesn't plan to swarm Europe with tank waves, they don't need to fear nuclear strikes, so their own need for a global retaliation capability is tenuous at best. I'd say that what they really are worried about is the possibility that their strategic arsenal may be rendered obsolete by the missile shield. They would have to embark on the good ol' arms race again, in order to keep a credible nuclear deterrent. The last arms race bankrupted the USSR, so it's understandable they are reluctant to go at it again, and against the winner of the last one, no less. But old habits die hard and nobody likes losing their superpower status.

Hmm. Let's see... I would give even less of a damn than I do now. And that's why you're a regular here.