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lol wat I'm European. You're not convincing me for **** either.

Hey, thanks. I had forgotten how good some HL tracks are.

True. No need to feel bad, though. I'm sure anyone here is more than willing to tell any girls what they are doing wrong, too.

Hehe. Yeah, the conventional wisdom (read: guru mantra) now goes like that. The thing with curls is that the biceps is actually a rather small muscle. Bicep gains are going to be nowhere near as good as leg or back gains, if at all. Doing things like bentover rows and pullups you are hitting your arms pretty hard, and but you're also getting the added benefit of a stronger grip and some pretty good back work. Compound exercises' chief advantage is that they recruit several muscle groups (duh), which means greater fat burning and increased testosterone levels. You really don't need to throw in bicep curls on top of that, as it's a pretty crappy muscle and easy to overtrain, especially if you are a beginner. Now, why is it said that you'll eventually hit a wall with bicep curls? Because of the way it's trained and the way dumbells are made, added to the above. Bicep curls are for some people actually more of a brachialis exercise (especially if you use the EZ bar and/or preach), than strict bicep work. The brachialis is a very strong muscle, but it's limiting the amount of work done by the bicep. Add to that the fact that dumbells generally increase in weight rather drastically (~2,5kg), and it's easy to see why curls aren't getting much love. That's not to say isolation exercises are useless or worthless, ofc. Just difficult to fit into a beginner's routine as effectively as would be desirable. Starting Strength Wiki. Good starting routines, good advice on progression, diet, cardio, rest periods, etc. No bicep curls whatsoever, and it's guaranteed to get you stronger. Squat, my boy, is the word. Sorry to steal your thunder, Wals. I'm stepping back now, promise.

Yes, if things were done right, "there would be no more terrorists, and no more arguments and disputes, and we all went to live in the gingerbread house at the end of lollipop lane in the land of chocolate ..." Seriously, you really need to stop watching so much Star Trek. The real world does not work like that at all, no matter how much ideologues and naive idealists wish otherwise. National defense is one of the few things the individual cannot reasonably be expected to do well on his own. National defense also includes defending one's vital strategic interests, by whatever means necessary. I suspect you have no idea to what point Western prosperity is built on oil. Our dependency on it is absolute and unlike anything before. So, yeah. Unless you're willing to go back to living Victorian-style, don't get all teary-eyed when folks don't protest their taxes being used to fuel the US war machine... you're getting a free ride, after all. You know what's really dreadful? People not knowing their history. Not knowing how much effort went into building what they now take for granted. Not knowing how much blood was spilled so they didn't have to worry about watching what they say or what they think. Not knowing that nothing is free. Not understanding the meaning of accountability, responsibility and confusing natural rights with contingent rights and other assorted socialist propaganda. In essence, not knowing what the flaming crap they are talking about. That is dreadful. So foster competence and that'll drive healthcare prices down. Why are you taking for granted that the only way to solve this is to force hardworking taxpayers to pay for everything? That's nice. I don't remember endorsing any contracts where it said that I have to take care of the lazy, the stupid or the cheating. I'd see about rescinding that contract if I were you.

People watch too much Star Trek.

Well, that's great. But the chump at 1600 Pennsylvania Av. may not be so clear on that. edit: wod beat me to it

What I don't get is, why are you allowing us to influence on how you do stuff in your country? Especially seeing as how we can't seem to find our way out of a wet paper bag on our own. Why would you want to follow an European's advice on anything?!

Curls are only good in certain circumstances/routines. On their own, they aren't much good. hang from the bar and make it happen.

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Except for Tritium which is extremely valuable, if only the logistics of actually extracting it and bringing in back could be worked out. Perhaps in our lifetime but not now. But I would point out that the baby steps must be taken before the big things and the benefits they bring can be accoplished. Yeah, and that's just the mining aspect. I think I read somewhere that microgravity is an ideal environment for manufacturing certain... thingies. Most likely hi-tech stuff, or perhaps precision lenses. Frankly, I can't be arsed to google it. We just need a material with a sufficient tensile strength to employ in a a space elevator, and work from there.

What motivates me is when an e-friend tells me his 120 pound girlfriend squats 250 and benches 205. My squat is almost there, in fact over the last 4 weeks I've gone up 40 pounds. I hit 225 last week and could very reasonable hit 245 but that would likely be my max at this point. My bench is pretty bad. I hit 205 about 2 weeks ago but the week after that I had somehow lost all my strength and was only able to put up 185 5 times. Unfortunately I haven't gotten past that since however that's mainly due to having an absolutely atrocious diet, horrible sleep, and working out past 10 pm which should be when I'm sleeping. His girlfriend, you say? But hey, at least you stay motivated. More than I can say for myself.

Question: why are you putting the cardio work BEFORE the strength exercises? Is this a homebrew routine, or...?

1. 692. 70 3. ???? 4. PROFIT!! I expected much better, tbh. I could have done a few more pushups, but I ran out of time. I really need to get my act together when it comes to ab work, as well. Didn't do the run thing. I can only do it on a treadmill, and that's plain cheating. I also secretly h8 cardio.

had some pretty atmospheric dynamic music. I don't think the game has a main theme, either, as the music played in the menu isn't always the same and it's usually one of the idle variations of the outer systems themes. Also, MGS2. Self-censorship is the worst form of censorship.

. The jukebox cheat was neat. I wish more games did that. You know, I was going to jump in with a Duke quote here, but there's just too many to pick one. So pick one yourself.

is the game whose music I've enjoyed the most overall. .

On the contrary, my wide-eyed socialist friend. It is both right and perfectly natural. Effort invested pays off, as it should. And the proportion of people who are both rich AND beautiful just by chance is small enough to disregard in our eminently rigorous disquisitions. Yeah, pretty much. But you are also lying your ass off to score, most of the time. Unless your opening line is something like "Hi, I'm Kaftan. My most remarkable trait is my smelly feet. I can also shatter glass with my snores." Nobody said anything about fair play...

You mean you can do one set of >120 pushups?

Umm... what do you mean by "rest"? When I did something like this back at boot camp, we were allowed to "rest", too... on the "up" position of the pushup exercise. Can I get up, have a sip of water and do a sudoku while "resting", or what. EDIT: I also have no way to measure distances. I guess a treadmill would be considered cheating?

I'd agree... but then the whole 3DR fiasco comes to mind. Speaking of which... DN3D HRP. (not my yt channel) Boy, I had forgotten how fun old skool shooters were.

Thanks for the links, Wals. Not sure I'd dub those "terror" trials. More like ****-for-brains trials, tbh. I stand corrected. I had to take a look to realize how bad it was. That's part of the charm of the internets.

Heh, I wanted to apologize. It's bad form to go "lol" at folks when one is attempting to maintain any semblance of an adult conversation. So, yeah, sorry about that. It was uncalled for. No official intervention on private activity is ever meant to guarantee a 0% mishap rate. It is, however, a cost-effective means of reducing unwanted consequences. The fact that it would not be perfect does not invalidate its usefulness. Certified surgeons, pilots, lawyers, anything - there's always room for error in human activity. Can you imagine the chaos it would be if anyone could operate a brain tumor? Why, then, we allow anyone to create life, and further, to shape it? No, that's not how it works. See, it's more like, "this and that are my rights, even though I did nothing to earn them or prove I am sensible enough to exercise them wel, or even understand what they mean. And it doesn't matter anyway as, if I screw up, Nanny State will be there to clean up my mess. As it should be." Dissolution of responsibility. No, I'm not sure he'd be a terrible parent. Just pointing out the fact that it takes a very specific set of skills to do certain things, and any and all other aspects of a person have no bearing whatsoever on that, no matter how outstanding they may be. I can't be sure either than a crackhead, wife-beating mugger will be a bad parent... but hey, it's his "right", right? You got it backwards... rape is illegal BECAUSE it involves a necessary violation of another's personal integrity. That's why, no matter how great an applicant may think he is, no rape licences are ever issued. Banning pregnancy is not what it's being discussed, ensuring a minimum competence at parenting is. Whether your children will break the law and cause me some trouble is irrelevant, as the law already provides for that. Bad parenting shapes a person, and currently, it's only in extreme cases (extreme neglect, abuse...) that there are applicable legal provisions - always of a reactive nature, as opposed to a proactive approach to prevent incapable parents from causing irreparable harm to their own children. Of course, in a mediocracy, that **** won't fly.

My point is that "art" has no intrinsic value - it's worth as much as "experts" say it's worth. And those experts were formed by other experts and so on and so forth. Once in a while, one expert comes along and he's charismatic and/or assertive enough to rock things about a little. Therefore, since there are no intrinsic, immanent qualities or properties to be recognized in "art", you cannot be any better at spotting and appreciating it than anyone else. This isn't just technique and craft we're talking about, right? Yeah, I know you don't care what anyone else says, you're just here to proselytize. Don't get all defensive when you encounter resistance, though. By the way, um, very few people even know about your precious Torment. Get out of your ivory tower once in a while. That's why it's considered a "cult" title, y'know? I don't think that means what you think it means.