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Umm... what do you mean by "rest"? When I did something like this back at boot camp, we were allowed to "rest", too... on the "up" position of the pushup exercise. Can I get up, have a sip of water and do a sudoku while "resting", or what. EDIT: I also have no way to measure distances. I guess a treadmill would be considered cheating?

I'd agree... but then the whole 3DR fiasco comes to mind. Speaking of which... DN3D HRP. (not my yt channel) Boy, I had forgotten how fun old skool shooters were.

Thanks for the links, Wals. Not sure I'd dub those "terror" trials. More like ****-for-brains trials, tbh. I stand corrected. I had to take a look to realize how bad it was. That's part of the charm of the internets.

Heh, I wanted to apologize. It's bad form to go "lol" at folks when one is attempting to maintain any semblance of an adult conversation. So, yeah, sorry about that. It was uncalled for. No official intervention on private activity is ever meant to guarantee a 0% mishap rate. It is, however, a cost-effective means of reducing unwanted consequences. The fact that it would not be perfect does not invalidate its usefulness. Certified surgeons, pilots, lawyers, anything - there's always room for error in human activity. Can you imagine the chaos it would be if anyone could operate a brain tumor? Why, then, we allow anyone to create life, and further, to shape it? No, that's not how it works. See, it's more like, "this and that are my rights, even though I did nothing to earn them or prove I am sensible enough to exercise them wel, or even understand what they mean. And it doesn't matter anyway as, if I screw up, Nanny State will be there to clean up my mess. As it should be." Dissolution of responsibility. No, I'm not sure he'd be a terrible parent. Just pointing out the fact that it takes a very specific set of skills to do certain things, and any and all other aspects of a person have no bearing whatsoever on that, no matter how outstanding they may be. I can't be sure either than a crackhead, wife-beating mugger will be a bad parent... but hey, it's his "right", right? You got it backwards... rape is illegal BECAUSE it involves a necessary violation of another's personal integrity. That's why, no matter how great an applicant may think he is, no rape licences are ever issued. Banning pregnancy is not what it's being discussed, ensuring a minimum competence at parenting is. Whether your children will break the law and cause me some trouble is irrelevant, as the law already provides for that. Bad parenting shapes a person, and currently, it's only in extreme cases (extreme neglect, abuse...) that there are applicable legal provisions - always of a reactive nature, as opposed to a proactive approach to prevent incapable parents from causing irreparable harm to their own children. Of course, in a mediocracy, that **** won't fly.

My point is that "art" has no intrinsic value - it's worth as much as "experts" say it's worth. And those experts were formed by other experts and so on and so forth. Once in a while, one expert comes along and he's charismatic and/or assertive enough to rock things about a little. Therefore, since there are no intrinsic, immanent qualities or properties to be recognized in "art", you cannot be any better at spotting and appreciating it than anyone else. This isn't just technique and craft we're talking about, right? Yeah, I know you don't care what anyone else says, you're just here to proselytize. Don't get all defensive when you encounter resistance, though. By the way, um, very few people even know about your precious Torment. Get out of your ivory tower once in a while. That's why it's considered a "cult" title, y'know? I don't think that means what you think it means.

That's pretty rich considering that Van Gogh (among others) was horribly underappreciated during his lifetime. I guess his contemporaries believed themselves to be every bit as enlightened as you believe yourself to be. "Art" is make-believe.

LOL Do you really think that if we didn't require driving licences for people to drive there wouldn't be immensely more accidents than there are now? Licences are meant to accredit people as having a basic set of skills required for the task they want to perform, they do not accredit infallibility. Yeah. One mistake that means bringing to life a new human being. No big deal huh? You see, that's the typical example of how we have become so dependent on the Nanny State to wipe our asses for us that the notion of even taking remote responsibility for our actions is alien to us. Stephen Hawking may be awesome at creating a theoretical model of the universe, but there's no way in hell I'd let him drive a truck. Tough luck. Uh, when my pursuit of happiness entails stepping on someone else's toes, it's usually ILLEGAL for me to "pursue happiness". You know, what with judges frowning upon rape and all. Same as when it burdens the rest of society because of my lack of foresight or maturity. We live in society, which means this ain't "free for all". I think you have failed to consider this from the worst VICTIM's standpoint: the child. Laziness ("it would be too much work for the govt") is no excuse not to do the right thing.

Which they rarely do. Vampiric Feast + Mass Heal =

Yeah, Sawyer's a History major IIRC, so that would make sense. Except for, um, the part where he trolls his own game's message board.

You mean you are not using the Win Button®? Ah, you must be using home rules to make combat more interesting. Yes, that must be it. Do you also play with one hand behind your back?

You gotta give the man props, though. It's an awesome smoke screen to have people not focus on the increasingly uphill battle that's Afghanistan. *tips hat*

Here are the odds line: Krezack 10:1, Pop 4:1, Deadly Nightshade 30:1, taks 10000:1, Walsingham 200:1, Kaftan 15:1, Guard Dog 10000:1, Laozi 80:1 Krookie 75:1, Rostere 100:1, Monte Carlo 90:1, Not an alt just a fool 2:1 You don't think it could be another of Eldar's alts? My money's on Wals, anyway.

Meaning what? That you give up? Because, you see, when people with cystic fibrosis can live to adulthood (with the associated reproductive chance this entails), as can people with Duchennne muscular distrophy, I don't know what to say to convince you. Short of massive congenital problems, it's rather uncommon to find a genetic disease that will always prevent the sufferer from passing it down. This is largely attributable to the advances of science. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, thanks for portraying me as a nazi eugenist. My day ain't complete until someone does. To answer your question, yeah. I find stupidity to be a bit of a turn-off, most of the time. But if the girl is hot enough to be worth the effort of enduring a few hours of inane chatter, chances are I'd hit it all the same. Even though my standards aren't exactly high, I have my limits too. However, it's highly debatable whether "stupidity" is an inheritable genetic trait, though. Deformity, I don't know. Depends on what's deformed, I suppose. Hemophilia doesn't exactly deform people, anyway.

Ouch. Well, then I guess that after this whole exchange, we haven't progressed much. We don't even have a common ground on basic elements of the topic such as "propaganda" and "hate". I mean, I hate our current prez, but for a wide variety of reasons, I don't think I'd pull the trigger - even assuming I had the balls to do so. Well, since you brought it up, where do I begin?

Yeah, I don't pay much attention to terror trials and you don't pay much attention to the posts you're replying to. We all have our failings, I suppose. You can smile to your heart's content, but you simply cannot deny the link between poverty and violence. The Hutu-Tutsi conflict? Nah, couldn't be. Somalia? Nope, not that one either. Afghanistan? Not likely. Of course, that's not to say that ALL violence MUST stem from poverty, as the conflicts in the former Yugoslavia show. But that's not what I said, is it? You said in some other thread that you had learned about straw men in these boards, so I can only assume you are being intellectually dishonest when you set that one up. At any rate, I said it's a combination of poverty and ignorance. The second part, you conveniently ignored. But you bring to the spotlight another interesting aspect: social inadequacy. Yeah, those guys can be pretty dangerous... but then again, school shooters are in most cases social misfits, and in their case, many things are blamed - video games chief among them. So, do we ban video games too, Wals? I said "nobody in their right mind" - that's where these people fit. And all you can come up with as a counterexample are a few terror trials. If only that was ALL the violence.

Wow, krez. You are in computer science, aren't you? I would assume that computer scientists are supposed to have a decent grasp of basic calculus. All he has shown is that, after choosing the coefficients carefully, a convergent sequence [(2/5)^n] is *drumroll*... convergent. Further, he also concluded that a divergent sequence [(8/5)^n] is... ZOMG! divergent! His whole argument hinges on the coefficients he made up, for which he offered no justification whatsoever. That's not very rigorous. Difficult to understand? Nope. Difficult to prove? Absolutely. Remember that it's one of the fundamental premises he bases the whole "analysis" on. Go ahead, if it's so evident, show us yourself.

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Nice. You have used fairly arbitrary proportions in your "reproductive chance", and you are assuming that there are inheritable traits nowadays that both impede and encourage reproduction in human beings. You are also assuming that an A parent will have an A child and so on. It's cool to simplify things for the sake of an explanation, but when you're trying to make theoretical predictions, it just doesn't cut it. Not saying that your conclusion is wrong per se, just that the premises are wrong as they intend to represent mankind at present. Care to try again?

Did you take tax deductions into consideration?

Larry Laffer.

It was one of the few truly "WTF?" moments I've experienced in gaming. And not in a good way. And by cool, you mean hot. Amirite? I'm trying to keep an open mind with this game, but ****. They sure aren't making it easy.

Aliens are not human.

No. The precursor to extremist violence is a mixture of ignorance and poverty. How come that we generally frown upon these hate groups here in the West? How can it be that we have no Hamas or Khmer Rouge around? Why is it that it's always the moderates that make up the majorities in developed countries? Nobody in their right mind wants to go on a killing spree if they have more to lose than they stand to gain - regardless of the quality of the propaganda they are being showered with. Even if I were to accept your reasoning that writing a hateful speech (again, what IS hate?) is the same as building a bomb, you are starting to fall into your own traps. I'm going to turn your argument around: you feel it's right to eliminate propaganda, but you have assimilated satirical works that can be construed as "hate speech" to, in your own words, scientific research. So, if you want to suppress one, don't you have to suppress the other as well? After all, chemistry "is the precursor" to building bombs, too. You are right, freedom can't bring back the dead or crippled, but neither can repression. And while you may have witnessed first-hand the effects of hate running rampant, I think we all know how states that seek to place security above things like free speech end up.

And you know this... from your extensive experience with deformed mutants kept alive by technology? Or are you one yourself, perhaps? How would you know?