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That's the only debate that matters.

Enjoy it while it lasts.

Ya, the first two melted due to global warming.

Er, not quite. It says "protein shake" in that website, but in the paper it uses for reference it doesn't say it has to be a "protein shake", at all. They used essential aminoacids for the study. Which, for the purposes of our discussion, I'm assuming it means pharmacy-grade. And since the protein you get from commercial shakes is mostly whey, which you can get from the cottage cheese I mentioned earlier, I reaffirm my earlier statement that commercial shakes don't offer significant advantages over regular food. Homebrew shakes are a different story. Clicky What we were discussing is the need to replenish your glycogen reserves RIGHT AFTER the workout. The myth page shows evidence against that AND the existence of a brief "post-workout window", which you appeared to be mixing. My Google-fu is second to none, grasshopper.

Owned. Literally!

Yeah, I've seen this post-workout window thing before. Never seen it adequately supported, tbh. More like the opposite, actually. But hey, as I said to mkreku, whatever works for you, man.

You aren't talking about "different economies". You are talking about an imaginary economy that has no resemblance to anything in the real world, as the data abundantly proves. Review the last five pages. Funny, as the chart you posted shows that, despite all your claims, the US isn't the most "free economy". Nor is it the one that has grown the most in any given period you have specified. Then why don't you, gee, I don't know... follow the links? Oh, right. You have had very bad experiences with links in this thread, in the past.

Does not compute.

Well, that's great. Perhaps now we'll see some actual marketing for this game?

Well, where have you been taught, and by who? All I'm posting here I've read from books, so you could say I'm self-taught. I have no official credentials or anything. That's the opposite of what I said. Commercially available shakes are only good for convenience, if you are lazy, or if you don't have much imagination. What do you mean "it slows the system down"? And where do you get your nutrition facts? Cottage cheese is less than 10% fat. And if you absolutely, positively need to cut ALL fat from your diet (which is madness, btw), there's also a 0% variety. Cheap and high in protein. Does it get better? What for? What do you think your body does with the carbs it isn't burning? Yeah, it turns them into fat. We don't want that. One of the goals of exercise is burning calories, and those come mostly from carbs. Why would you want to replenish what you just burned? Of course, if your goal is to grow, you'll need to eat more calories, but in that case you're better off getting those from complex carbs that take a while to process. Simple carbs = bad. Or, you could just chow down a ton of candy after the workout. They are 100% fat-free, and the body demands that you replenish your glucose stockpiles! Protein is protein is protein. It doesn't matter if you get it from egg, whey or soybeans. Most muscular repairs happen while you're asleep, anyway. All I said is that a banana has, for a fruit, a high sugar content (about twice as a Granny Smith). I'm interested in that comment you made that insulin helps carry protein through the body. I don't think I've heard that before, can you elaborate? Again, protein is protein. I agree with your strategy, but that goes against what I said... how?

It's at times like this when I feel great about not having a car (or a licence, for that matter). Sorry to be an ass. Glad it was nothing serious, though. You just couldn't resist, could you?

Well, sure. The wiki I posted a few pages back actually recommends milk as one of the main sources of protein... it's just that a gallon a day is a bit too much for me. But hey, if you reckon that's what you need, more power to you. I'm hardly an expert or anything.

Protein shakes are mostly a waste of money. They aren't useless and actually have a good amount of protein per serving, but the only real advantage over anything else is convenience. I recommend a handful of almonds (raw) or nuts right before your workout, and, for example, a serving of cottage cheese (oatmeal is a plus) right after. Don't bother with that fat-free crap, either. Starches are the enemy, not the fat in cheese. Aim for five-six meals a day, all of which should contain some sort of protein (the source doesn't matter), and you'll be fine. Milk is surprisingly low in protein (~3% in weight), and bananas are very high in sugars. Recommendable before a workout, not after.

You're starting to repeat yourself. Look up Glass-Steagall. Tsk, tsk. That's a loaded question... Um, in case you have missed the last few pages, he has failed to convincingly support any of his claims, other than "the US is the biggest economy", which is an obvious fact, rather than an argument. This isn't about criticizing the US, really. It's about looking at things as they are. I admire the US, and I'd much rather have you guys be on top than China or Russia, Soviet or otherwise. Heh, I have considered living there, even. But you have to admit, you are in the hands of a plutocracy that uses and abuses the values your country was founded on and a very healthy feeling of patriotism to further their business interests worldwide, while feeding the general population, at home and abroad, some bull**** about freedom and democracy. Didn't the Founding Fathers regard with suspicion merely the idea of a standing army? What do you think they'd have to say about this "War is Peace" policy your country has systematically practiced since, hell, the war with Spain? Your prosperity has been paid for not in oil but in blood. You want to be imperialists? Sure, no problem. But at least be honest about it.

Fixed. QA is seriously expensive, from what I gather. And I can only see it getting worse, with games increasing in complexity (technically, at least), and the willingness of the community to do the bugfixing by means of "unofficial" patches... Hehe. Bloodlines? I seriously doubt that's the last Vampire game we'll see.

I suppose you aren't very good with colours, either. Either that, or you're implying that countries such as Greece, Ireland, Luxembourg, Israel and Spain (rofl) aren't "developed". Pretty neat how you keep redefining everything so things appear to support your claims when all evidence points to the contrary. It's not. It's just another macroeconomic indicator. Have you studied those in school yet? http://earthtrends.wri.org/text/energy-res...riable-351.html Since I know you no longer bother to check the links (to save you the headache, perhaps?) I'm going to point out how Trinidad & Tobago, Bahrain, Qatar and a few more have a higher energy consumption (in kilograms of oil equivalent) per capita than the US. Does that indicate higher living standards in those countries?

Don't listen to Enoch, he works for The Man!

I think it isn't that people don't understand the numbers, what they don't understand are the economics behind those numbers. If you owe five grand, you have a fairly good idea of the effort, time and sacrifice it would take for you to repay that debt. If your country has a debt in the trillions, you have no idea where to start cutting expenses, what % of the GDP that is, and how long could reasonably take the country to repay that debt. It's only natural, as most people aren't economists.

This is the key. It's ridiculous to expect companies to produce a $50M game and whose intended audience are the folks at NMA. Because really, really good ideas are difficult to come by. And by changing a few aspects that, for some people, are part of the original charm of the IP, you can cater to a greater audience.

I was under the impression that Stalin had needed every last men he had to defend the USSR proper. If he had pressed on during the Winter War and a fraction of the Red Army was deployed over Finland, would Barbarossa have turned out as it did? Hypothetical scenarios sure are fun. I'm starting to believe that Hurlshot's assessment was spot on. That's for 2008 and 2009. When you're talking about "growth rate", the data I presented IS what you are referring to. Data from the 1950's or any other period is, well, outdated. Essentially what you are banging your chest about nonstop is that "the US is the biggest economy". So. ****ing. what. You also waste the most money on a standing military which, thanks to a BRILLIANT political leadership, can't beat a bunch of shepherds hidden in mountain caves. How about you present some numbers yourself, instead of making stuff up and squirming when presented with the real thing, you pathetic tool. An indicator only of your fatness.

Uh, so? That's a macroeconomic indicator. It says nothing about living standards. No. We aren't accepting invented or imaginary statistics as evidence, m'kay? Oh, wait. Those that have greater growth rates than the US aren't "developed", right? How shrewd.

Yes, alan. Why do you hate Freedom?

Ugh. Well, at least you don't have to go through the whole "DATA CORRUPTED!" sequence if you want to change the colour of your beard. Speaking of which, the game is seriously lacking in that department! Load times were good. I hope that's the case with the full game.

I thought they already had all the conventional bunker busters they needed. And also some bunker buster nukes. Pen

A Pyrrhic victory is still technically a victory, eh?